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  1. i have been riding for a while now and i can do lots of stuff but the
    thing that is getting me very frustrated would be riding backwards? how
    do you do it?
    thanks sean

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  2. country_style17 said:

    *i have been riding for a while now and i can do lots of stuff but the
    thing that is getting me very frustrated would be riding backwards?
    how do you do it?
    thanks sean *

    It's a lot like riding forwards, just very awkward. Practice is the
    key. It's very much like learning to ride all over again, and it will
    take at least as much time (from my experience at least). The "lean
    forward and pedal like hell" idea works in reverse when learning to ride
    backward.

    It's going to take time and the most important thing to remember to have
    fun while you are doing it. That's what it's all about.

    Warning: I was learning to ride backward when I got my first dose of
    hard pedal to shin contact.

    Daniel

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  3. I'm just learning to ride backward, and can usually go three to seven
    revolutions before falling. I have not been frustrated learning this
    skill, but I put in a lot of time (and some frustration) learning to
    idle before trying to go backwards. Someone here recommended the
    super-idle (idling with an extra 1/2 revolution each direction) as a
    good step towards backwards proficiency, and I've worked on that
    enough to get bored, but not proficiennt. At this point going
    backwards seems just as rewarding.

    Oh yeah, there were a couple of people who had hard falls learning to
    ride backward. I've been keeping my speed under control and haven't
    had any trouble.

    Good luck!

    Ken

  4. I had a weird problem when I was learning to ride backward. Once I
    started backward, I COULD NOT STOP. Anyone else have this problem?

    I finally learned to always practice riding backward toward a hill.
    Therefore the hill would slow me down and I could then go forward.
    Otherwise, I had to fall to stop any backward ride.

    Sorry I don't have any good recommendations for you. Just keep on
    practicing. It will come. --chirokid--

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  5. hey-

    backwards was the first trick i learned (after going forward). its
    really quite simple; it just feels difficult cuz your legs feel akward
    doing a motion that is new to them.

    contrary to what might have been said in an earlier post, i believe that
    trying to go backwards up a hill is near impossible for most beginners.
    your pedals might get stuck in the 12 & 6 position, so you can't get any
    leverage to keep going.

    i didn't start out from holding onto an object like i did when learning
    forward. Instead i just rode forward, did one or two idles, then started
    going backwards. i think its too hard and maybe even bad practice to
    push off from something stationary to get yourself moving.

    dont go really slow, unless your going slightly downhill. otherwise you
    want to maintain a normalm, comfortable speed.

    can you idle? how well? maybe best to learn this first. i think i was at
    a disadvantage for learning backwards before idling.

    dont look over your shoulder; just find a straight road without cars to
    practice on.

    maybe learn on grass if you constantly fall backwards...one back fall on
    the tail bone is REALLY painful and could discourage you from trying
    again.

    if any of this was unclear or doesn't seem to help, just ignore it.
    these are all just ideas from personal experience. many ppl probably
    disagree with some of the stuff i've said.

    -grant

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  6. I found I managed to learn through trial and error. I have a fairly long
    hallway and i was sick of turning around at one end and just decided it
    would be simplier if i could ride backwards!

    I found hallways were a good place casue you could keep in a fairly
    straight line and the walls were helpful too😄

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  7. I would definately have to suggest finding a wall to push off. That's
    what worked best for me. Good luck.

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  8. I must respectfully disagree with you Tennis; on almost every point. I
    learned backwards the same time as idling. idling did come before
    backwards but not by much.

    It is definitely like learning all over again because what you are doing
    is building up muscle memory that is different from what you have
    already learned.

    Keep at it. Backwards is a very practical skill. When I am trying
    something more difficult and I mess up, I can often ride backwards out
    of it rather than UPD.

    I found that riding my unicycle to school backwards, while eating
    breakfast, listening to music, and reading a book is fun. (Only if you
    are durable, on an abandoned sidewalk with no unexpected obstacles, and
    you don't fall off.

    I had the same trouble with stopping and the same trouble with going too
    fast.

    When I was beginning to become somewhat proficient at backwards, I was
    trying it in an empty parking lot at night when I became over confident
    and went to fast. I lost control and did a complete backwards
    summersault out of which I ended up on my feet. The hydration pack and
    helmet made this an enjoyable experience and a cool trick rather than a
    trip to the hospital. I have not tried to repeat it.

    Commuting helped me to ride forwards better in general and it also
    helped with backwards.

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  9. My vote goes for pushing off of something. I felt that I could get
    control of things better to start.

    One night, I got determined after much failure, and decided that I would
    push off the wall 100 times per night until I could do it. My kids were
    doing it, so I knew it could be done. To my surprise, after only about
    20 tries I went about 20 ft. and felt myself make a course correction
    while doing so. Then I KNEW it was doable, and within another 20 or 30
    tries I had gone 100 ft. Soon thereafter I was able to change direction
    without using a wall, and I've been improving ever since! More than
    anything, like everything else having to do with unicycles, just keep
    trying!

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  10. However you learned to ride forwards, try those methods for riding
    backwards. Using a wall or a fence worked beautifully for me.
    Also, try going slightly uphill, then you can lean back further without
    falling over.

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  11. I'm learning at the moment too. I can pretty much do it now, but when I
    first started, my problem was that, not being able to idle, suddenly
    pushing backward on the pedal would make the unicycle turn to one side,
    and once that happened I couldn't regain a straight line.

    Another thing I've noticed is that people learning to ride forwards
    usually have more trouble with one of two problems, but rarely with
    both.
    Some people have trouble with forwards and backwards balance, they find
    the unicycle disappearing from underneath them.
    The other problem is side-to-side balance. The speed of a bicycle
    effectively removes this as a problem, but a beginner on a uncicyle is
    significantly slower than that, and side-to-side comes back into play.

    Bringing all this back to going backwards, a lot of people say that
    learning to go backwards is like learning to unicycle all over again.
    Except that you can already do backwards and forwards balance, albeit
    not incredibly well going backwards. This brings you back to the problem
    of side-to-side, and how much you lose the balance when you actually
    start the pedals turning the other way.

    I practiced actually riding backwards from pushing off from a wall, but
    for going into reverse from going forwards, I think it helps a lot to be
    able to idle a bit, although not necessarily brilliantly.

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  12. relax your hips
    i'm serious
    that's the key that i picked up from a discussion about peter tosh's
    unicycling exploits
    someone mentioned that they learnt how to ride backwards while listening
    to tosh's music and mentioned that it's impossible to have stiff hips
    while listening to his music
    i tried it and it worked
    relax your hips

    and to avoid chirokid's problem, where u get going backwards but u can't
    stop, learn to control the backward movement
    dont just throw yourself backwards and pedal like hell
    u can hurt yourself
    learn to ride from position of stability to position of stability
    that will eventually help u ride backwards thru crowds of people because
    u'll be able to look behind u and change direction at the drop of a
    hat
    to achieve this, it really helps if u start your backwards learning
    process by riding forward, going one pedal revolution backwards, and
    then forward again
    next time do two
    and three and so on
    maintain control all the time
    just imagine u're john ashcroft or something

    :p

    enjoy the practising
    keep us updated

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  13. ya thanks guys. i tried again last night and i made it somewhat far but
    i do the same thing when i first started riding forward. when i pedal my
    legs push down so hard that my unicycle jus goes side to side till i
    bail again. well ill ttyl ill try this again.

    o ya i guess this is bad but what is idleing?

    Sean

    o ya and this would be my uni if ud like to take a look!!🙂

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  14. country_style17 said:

    *o ya i guess this is bad but what is idleing?
    *

    staying on the spot (on the unicycle!) by pedalling part of a revolution
    backwards, the forwards, ad infinitum

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  15. country_style17 said:

    *when i pedal my legs push down so hard that my unicycle jus goes side
    to side till i bail again.*


    two things
    one is that that is an indication of not putting enough weight on the
    seat
    your legs are still carrying too much of your body weight
    u need to relax onto the seat and just use your legs to roll the pedals
    over as smoothly as u can
    keep that in mind while u practise

    the other thing is that if u find the uni swerving side-to-side while
    u're riding, u're not quite leaning far enough forward
    if u're too upright, the uni will respond by swerving like that
    just lean another 1/8th of an inch forward and the ride will smooth out
    nicely

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  16. Working on this trick and it's difficult to stay in control without the
    other foot as a stop and go method any tips, or is it just the amount
    you lean back? Laters

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  17. Uhh i cant even wheel walk at all yet

    how do you learn?I tried for a while but fell of backwards pretty hard
    and gave up.

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  18. First of all, let's not hijack this thread.

    Second of all, wheel walking is an advanced skill. I don't reccommend
    even trying it until you can comfortably ride one footed, idle one
    footed, backward, ect. These skills are not required for wheel walking
    but they are all far easier for me. I have been riding for over four
    months, have learned the above skills and can still only dream of wheel
    walking. Don't listen to me as an expert as I cannot wheel walk. I am
    in search of the same info.

    If someone could redirect the both of us to a good wheel walking thread,
    that would be great.

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