How do they do that?

Tim Hall said the following on 16/04/2007 14:39:

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The jumping up onto boulders, walls etc seems so smooth. From what I
understand clipless pedals aren't used either.

Isn't it annoying that they make it look so easy? A 3ft bunny-hop onto
a wall? Pah! That was impressive, but I have seen stuff that makes me
doubt the rider's sanity, although certainly not their skills.

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Paul Boyd proclaimed to uk.rec.cycling ...

Trials is bloody good fun. Its not as hard as you think, if you follow
advice and practice a LOT! You find that your mind is the limit of your
skills, if you think you're never going to make it, you wont! If you commit
and try your best you'll likely get 90% of the way there - enough to spur
you on to try again.

It tends to hurt shins a lot - you slip off the pedals a lot and drag holes
in your shins - but most of it is slow enough not to hurt. A 3ft bunnyhop
is impressive by any standards though. I have a nice custom 9" frame for it
but I've not touched it in years - its no fun unless you go with someone
else to egg you on, and I know no-one else in my area that isnt 14 lol.

Its a shame its looked down on so much, in the UK if you try anything like
that on the streets you have about 40 seconds before the police come and
either move you on or try to caution you.

Paul Boyd proclaimed to uk.rec.cycling ...
Re: How do they do that?

Have a look at:
http://biketrials.com/how-to/index.shtml

Buy a little trials bike,or you can start on a small framed 26" mtb, with
good brakes and get trying 🙂 I have to point out that the key thing to
have is a) a strong rear wheel and b) a rear brake that you can lock.
Easily. With 1 finger. Mine had HS33's with ground (with an anglegrinder)
D521 rear rim and a 12mm brake booster to stop the frame flex.

in message <[email hidden]>, Tim Hall

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In a break between domestic duties at the weekend, I found myself
watching some of that new fangled trials bike riding on Youtube. For
example: <

As someone who can nearly trackstand for a second or two, how the hell
do they do that?

The jumping up onto boulders, walls etc seems so smooth. From what I
understand clipless pedals aren't used either.

There's a very good group of trials riders in the Fort William area, and
you can often see them in action around the town. The trick is

* Very low fixed gear;
* Very precise brakes (Magura HS33s are de rigour);
* Very soft tubeless tyres;
* Lots and lots and lots of practice.

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Simon Brooke said:

There's a very good group of trials riders in the Fort William area, and
you can often see them in action around the town. The trick is

* Very low fixed gear;

I thought that they all used freewheels, but the freewheels are sometimes
put on the cranks rather than at the rear hub?

Anthony

On 16/04/2007 15:37, Coyoteboy said,

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Trials is bloody good fun. Its not as hard as you think

Oh, it looks fun, and I bet it is as hard as I think! I'm 41 - I don't
bounce any more :-) Doesn't stop me trying though - I bookmarked the
link in your other post...

Quoted message said:

Its a shame its looked down on so much, in the UK if you try anything like
that on the streets you have about 40 seconds before the police come and
either move you on or try to caution you.

What was I saying about a free country in another post? Hmmmm.....

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Tim Hall said:

In a break between domestic duties at the weekend, I found myself
watching some of that new fangled trials bike riding on Youtube. For
example: <

As someone who can nearly trackstand for a second or two, how the hell
do they do that?

The jumping up onto boulders, walls etc seems so smooth. From what I
understand clipless pedals aren't used either.

I think he's a witch and should be burned.

Tim

As the father of a lad who used to do that kind of thing - one soon gets
on first name terms with the staff at the local A&E :-/

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Quoted message said:

On 16/04/2007 15:37, Coyoteboy said,

Quoted message said:

Trials is bloody good fun. Its not as hard as you think

Oh, it looks fun, and I bet it is as hard as I think! I'm 41 - I don't
bounce any more :-) Doesn't stop me trying though - I bookmarked the
link in your other post...

🙂 one of the most respected UK Trials riders is not far off that.
Apparently it just takes longer to stop hurting the older you get 🙂

I really recommend at least giving it a shot and not giving up at the first
go. It really improves your off-road riding skills too, you can transfer a
lot of the moves fairly well to other situations. Plus if you can do it
half-decently you get crowds gathering wherever you practice, which is ok
until you fall off - but at least theres someone there to help if its
serious! 🙂

The feeling when you nail your first 6ft flat drop-off, or manage to pedal
kick between two fairly distant blocks is like nothing else - you get that
kiddy giggle in your stomach that you havent had for years 🙂

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Its a shame its looked down on so much, in the UK if you try anything
like that on the streets you have about 40 seconds before the police come
and either move you on or try to caution you.

What was I saying about a free country in another post? Hmmmm....

🙂 Mmm, unfortunately its a "not in my back yard" situation - shops dont
like it anywhere near them in case customers complain, cops dont like it
because youre riding on a) the pavement (despite it being miles from
anyone) or b) dangerous things like concrete blocks. There are always
exceptions, like a few shops that have come out and chatted, and brought us
drinks as we were drawing in a few people to the cafe. But in general you
get shunned lol. And expect to have people shout at you for having a kids
bike, if you go that way 🙂

Tim Hall said:

In a break between domestic duties at the weekend, I found myself
watching some of that new fangled trials bike riding on Youtube. For
example: <

As someone who can nearly trackstand for a second or two, how the hell
do they do that?

The jumping up onto boulders, walls etc seems so smooth. From what I
understand clipless pedals aren't used either.

I think he's a witch and should be burned.

It's an illusion. It's all done with mirrors.

Anthony Jones proclaimed to uk.rec.cycling ...

Quoted message said:

Simon Brooke said:

There's a very good group of trials riders in the Fort William area, and
you can often see them in action around the town. The trick is

* Very low fixed gear;

I thought that they all used freewheels, but the freewheels are sometimes
put on the cranks rather than at the rear hub?

Anthony

Correct, but i think he means only one gear, not fixed as in no freewheel.
HS33s were the thing of choice but discs are taking over somewhat.
Not sure I've seen the trend to tubeless, its been a while since i was in
the loop - but the low pressures on a tubeless tyre would worry me - ive
had tubed tyres roll off the rim when landing big drops.

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Quoted message said:

As the father of a lad who used to do that kind of thing - one soon gets
on first name terms with the staff at the local A&E :-/

🙂 Yes it can get like that because you want to try going big before you
can - with age I have come to realise that taking it slow and learning the
basics and progressing you can nail much more than when you're 16 and throw
yourself at things. I have the scars to prove my experience in that
learning process 🙂 But good lad, he should be encouraged.

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J
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Tim Hall said:

In a break between domestic duties at the weekend, I found myself
watching some of that new fangled trials bike riding on Youtube. For
example: <

As someone who can nearly trackstand for a second or two, how the hell
do they do that?

The jumping up onto boulders, walls etc seems so smooth. From what I
understand clipless pedals aren't used either.

I think he's a witch and should be burned.

Its very clever, but is it cycling? If the front wheel went the way of the
saddle it would be a pogo stick.

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Its very clever, but is it cycling? If the front wheel went the way of the
saddle it would be a pogo stick.

Yes it is, I didnt watch the vid all the way through but there are a lot of
front wheel moves too, and a lot to do with normal riding on balance beams.

It is to cycling what motorbike trials is to motorcycling, or what
off-roading is to motor-car sports - just another division really.