How Difficult is UST really supposed to be?

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I got a UST rim (mavic x3.1) and a UST tire set of WTB mutano raptor USTs. I put them on, centered
them, and I can't seem to get air into them. What the heck!?!? I must be a [censored]

Any help on how to inflate UST tires would be greatly appreciated.

Is the use of soapy water/moisture/ UST liquid really necessary to ensure a seal?

You need something that can move a lot of air fast like a compressor. You can get a 'pig' or
portable air tank at Wallyworld or an auto parts store pretty cheap and fill it at the gas station.

Mike

psycho- <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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I got a UST rim (mavic x3.1) and a UST tire set of WTB mutano raptor USTs. I put them on, centered
them, and I can't seem to get air into them. What the heck!?!? I must be a [censored]

Any help on how to inflate UST tires would be greatly appreciated.

Is the use of soapy water/moisture/ UST liquid really necessary to ensure a seal?

Thanks

Victor

Far as I can tell from reading here, you need to get a lot of air in very quickly to make the
tire bead seat on the rim - have you used a compressed air line (like at a gas station), or a
track pump yet?

Shaun aRe

"psycho-" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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I got a UST rim (mavic x3.1) and a UST tire set of WTB mutano raptor USTs. I put them on, centered
them, and I can't seem to get air into them. What the heck!?!? I must be a [censored]

Any help on how to inflate UST tires would be greatly appreciated.

Is the use of soapy water/moisture/ UST liquid really necessary to ensure a seal?

Thanks

Victor

I found the soapy water to help out loads when using a foot pump, also once you do get air to stay
in the tyre, pump it up to the max presure thats listed on the tyres sidewall (but dont go too far
or you'll blow it off the rim with a big _BANG_, I speak from expirience on this one).

Jason

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I was able to seat the bead with either a floor pump or a CO2 inflator,

but

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could not even come close with a bike frame pump.

Which is why I will be bringing a CO2 inflator on the trail. When I did mine, the floor pump got the
first one seated, but the second required compressed air. Thankfully, we have a compressor.

psycho- said:

I got a UST rim (mavic x3.1) and a UST tire set of WTB mutano raptor USTs. I put them on, centered
them, and I can't seem to get air into them. What the heck!?!? I must be a [censored]

You said it. <G>

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Any help on how to inflate UST tires would be greatly appreciated.

You need to pump air as fast as you can in the first moments to create a seal. Then the pressure
gets in the 15 psi range or so, you'll hear a POP as the bead seats. You'll need a high volume floor
pump or compressor.

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Is the use of soapy water/moisture/ UST liquid really necessary to ensure a seal?

Only if you want to do it right. I've seen dry fits seal, but the recommendation is to use a liquid.
Feeling lucky?

You really aren't a 'tard, there's a knack to it.

Barry

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Which is why I will be bringing a CO2 inflator on the trail. When I did mine, the floor pump got
the first one seated, but the second required compressed air. Thankfully, we have a compressor.

On the trail, you'll be inserting a tube. <G> The real fix happens at home.

Patching a UST on the trail is a real PITA.

Barry

Have you tried super glue, I have patched 1 tire with it and it worked well, just find the hole,
deflate the tire, fill the hole with super glue, either let it dry or apply an accelerator. I have
2 bikes with UST tires, I've patched 1 tire on each, 1 with super glue the other with a patch, both
have held for about a year now. I now have tubless slime in all my UST tires and have not had a
flat since.

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deluxe model said:

Which is why I will be bringing a CO2 inflator on the trail. When I did mine, the floor pump got
the first one seated, but the second required compressed air. Thankfully, we have a compressor.

On the trail, you'll be inserting a tube. <G> The real fix happens at home.

Patching a UST on the trail is a real PITA.

Barry

"psycho-" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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I got a UST rim (mavic x3.1) and a UST tire set of WTB mutano raptor USTs. I put them on, centered
them, and I can't seem to get air into them. What the heck!?!? I must be a [censored]

Any help on how to inflate UST tires would be greatly appreciated.

Is the use of soapy water/moisture/ UST liquid really necessary to ensure a seal?

Thanks

Victor

I've never used anything but air to seat USTs. Once the tire is fully on and the bead is more or
less in place, pump like a crazy man - like 15 strokes in as little time as possible. You are
basically pumping faster than air can escape. Usually, the tire is tight enough on the rim that
whatever air is trapped starts popping the bead in place. Pump, casually now, to around 30 psi, and
then work the tire around, checking that the tire is seated properly (using the guide dealies
imprinted on tires that let you know everything is seated straight). Pump up to like 60 psi once
you're happy with the bead.

You will hear popping throughout...that's the tire seating itself. If it matters, I've swapped
lots of USTs using a Topeak Joe Blow Sport pump, which is pretty middle of the road regarding
volume and pressure.

Chris

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deluxe model said:

Which is why I will be bringing a CO2 inflator on the trail. When I did mine, the floor pump got
the first one seated, but the second required compressed air. Thankfully, we have a compressor.

On the trail, you'll be inserting a tube. <G> The real fix happens at home.

Patching a UST on the trail is a real PITA.

So I 'will' be putting those tubes to use, left over from my last bike.

Never had an issue with the following methodology: Floor pump, soapy water, hold the tire off the
ground by the rim. If the wheel is on the ground, the tire bulges out and it is damn near impossible
to reflate.

Panaracer's UST repair kit allows for on the trail tire repairs,without needing to remove the tire
from the rim (provided you can find the hole).

A

psycho- said:

I got a UST rim (mavic x3.1) and a UST tire set of WTB mutano raptor USTs. I put them on, centered
them, and I can't seem to get air into them. What the heck!?!? I must be a [censored]

Any help on how to inflate UST tires would be greatly appreciated.

Is the use of soapy water/moisture/ UST liquid really necessary to ensure a seal?

Thanks

Victor

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Anthony Sloan said:

Panaracer's UST repair kit allows for on the trail tire repairs,without needing to remove the tire
from the rim (provided you can find the hole).

In theory... <G>

Have you ever actually USED one of these kits on the trail? Most UST tires have so much mold
release, etc... on the inside of the tire, it's damn near impossible to patch on the trail.

That's why I carry a tube for emergency repairs on my UST bike. Pop one bead off, unscrew the valve,
insert the tube, reinflate, ride away. Fix it at home.

Barry

B a r r y B u r k e J r . said:

In theory... <G>

Have you ever actually USED one of these kits on the trail? Most UST tires have so much mold
release, etc... on the inside of the tire, it's damn near impossible to patch on the trail.

That's why I carry a tube for emergency repairs on my UST bike. Pop one bead off, unscrew the
valve, insert the tube, reinflate, ride away. Fix it at home.

Barry

I've used on in the field to good effect, but as with damn near anything, mileage is subject to
situational variables. I merely pass on the info that there is, in theory, a kit for patching
tubeless tires on the trail.

And I could do with a good mold release, back in 15.

A (yap, yap, bike-related, yap)