Hot Water?

"Dave Smith" wrote ...

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If the hot water is coming through the same water
system as the

cold, and there

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is a mineral deposit on the heating element, wouldn't that
mean that

there is

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now less minerals in the hot water than in the cold?

Now you are using logic. This group does not use logic.

One dark day on Usenet said:

byakee said:

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byakee wrote:

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> Hubby is being obstinate today --

Actually, "obstinate" was a poor choice of words here;
although he is a stubborn cuss, it was his arrogance
about it that annoyed me. "WE don't cook with hot
water." He's a sweet boy, but sometimes he forgets that
I rarely do what others *tell* me to do. <g>

You're not a July person by any chance, are you?

If you mean birthdate, nope, I'm Janurary.

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It's been discussed before; me, I would not drink hot
water out of the tap. If nothing else it's probably
been heated and heated until it's flat. Yuck.

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I'm with your husband. Well, not at this moment!
(laugh)

Hmmm, do I need to keep an eye on you, missy..? ;-)

If you've been reading along, you will have noticed that I
*am* one of the rfc trollops. 'nuff said.

I've always wondered what qualifies one as a trollop; now I
know... <g>

--
J.J. in WA ~ mom, vid gamer, novice cook ~ (COLD to HOT for
e-mail) "Why do my knees feel like the wanna tear up?"
- Carl, ATHF

Kamus of Kadizhar said:

Dan Abel said:

So, if you need a small amount of water, using cold water
will save you energy. If you need a lot of water, like if
you are making 20 gallons of soup, then the energy use
will be about the same.

I guess we could get into a very pedantic argument about
this, but let's not. :-)

If it makes you feel better not to use the water in your
water heater, go for it. It's not an issue worth losing
sleep over. :-)

Every modern water heater has a drain on the bottom. Go
ahead and let some water out; I think you'll find out that
the water on the bottom is as clean as the water on the
top, or the water from the cold water faucet.

--Kamus

Before I moved here a couple of months ago, I used to drain
the hot water tank in my house every spring. It was not
attractive. I would run the hose from the tank out the door
and into the garden. The first year I let it run on to the
grass, it killed it, killed it completely.

Sheena

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byakee said:

Hubby is being obstinate today -- he says one shouldn't
cook with warm or hot water because the inside of a hot
water tank is really gross. I say it doesn't matter.
We're curious what RFC thinks...

Its not so much the water heater's tank, its that hot water
can cause dirt and sentiment from pipes to disolve slightly
and come out of the tape with the water.

Sentiment, tape... hmm, a little too heavy on the fermented
ketchup tonight.

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Kamus said:

byakee wrote: Hubby is being obstinate today -- he says
one shouldn't cook with warm or hot water because the
inside of a hot water tank is really gross. I say it
doesn't matter. We're curious what RFC thinks...

Makes no difference whatsoever as far as the health issues
are concerned. Unless you have ancient piping with lead
solder, and even then, your water heater is most likely
glass lined, and the piping will be the same for both hot
and cold.

Water has chlorine in it; that kills most of the bad
critters. Perhaps it does taste flat; I'd venture to guess
that's because the dissolved oxygen has been driven off by
the heat. Try drinking some cold water you heated in a pan;
it will taste the same. Or let a glass of hot water stand
until it cools off, then shake it and taste it (cover it
first, though.....)

Anyway, health concerns about what's coming out of your
faucet are pretty mild compared to all the other issues we
have with health.

By comparison, your water heater may be 5 years old. The
pipes running to your house may be 100 years old; old oak
pipes are still occasionally dug up. You don't even want to
know what's in those pipes.

I say use whatever water you want. If you want to spend
the extra time and fuel to heat cold water when you
have hot water available because it makes you feel
better, go for it.

You really have a skewed concept of water systems. The issue
is primarily in how domestic hot water tanks are constructed
and operate. The bottom 6-8 inches of water essentially
remains stagnant and relatively cool (no more than about
100dF) acts as a sump to collect particulates which
precipitate out from electrolytic action. Cold incoming
water from municipal sources is clorinated (cold water
piping does not become contaminated with organisms) but when
heated the clorine evaporates rapidly. The stagnant water at
the bottom of the tank being relatively cold is rife with
bacteria... hot water is drawn fom the tank's top portion
only but bacteria does indeed migrate throughout the tank -
many bacterium survive quite nicely in domestic hot water,
it's not really so hot at about 135dF - hot water tanks do
not contain boiling water. duh Were one to open a hot water
heater tank they'd be so disgusted by that sumpful of black
slimey *stinky* sludge they'd not even want to bathe with
that water, let alone drink it. Hot water tanks also contain
a magnesium rod (should be replaced about every 3-5 years)
that dissolves from the electrlytic action, rather than
erode the tank itself and the associated plumbing... that
dissolved magnesium (and other metals) collects in the
tank's sump. If your system employs a tankless coil inside
your heating system boiler then that water is not nearly so
polluted but still will contain excessive mineral scale,
which constantly flakes off. Do NOT consume domestic hot
water. Btw, if any family members all of a sudden seem prone
to skin rashes of various sorts, excessive colds, digestive
ailments, and eye infections it's probably time to either
change hot water tanks or have a plumber "shock" the tank
(the entire hot water system is emptied, flushed, and
refilled with a few gallons of clorine bleach added - you'll
have no hot water for about a week until the entire shock
process is complete and the system is well flushed - most
folks opt for a new water tank). Every time a new hot water
tank is installed the entire hot water system should be
shocked... most plumbers are remiss (lazy), insist!

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byakee said:

Hubby is being obstinate today -- he says one shouldn't
cook with warm or hot water because the inside of a hot
water tank is really gross. I say it doesn't matter.
We're curious what RFC thinks...

Its not so much the water heater's tank, its that hot
water can cause

dirt

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and sentiment from pipes to disolve slightly and come out
of the tape

with

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the water.

Sentiment, tape... hmm, a little too heavy on the
fermented ketchup

tonight.

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My sediments exactly. . . .

van