A friend (no, really) has Hope Mono Minis on his On-One Tinbred, and apparently they suck. Another friend has the Deore discs and they work just fine, but Arnie can't get his bike to do a stoppie and the brakes only seem about 2/3 as powerful as V-brakes. He changed the pads and fluid and bled them through but they are no better. Anyone got any ideas?
A friend (no, really) has Hope Mono Minis on his On-One Tinbred, and apparently they suck. Another friend has the Deore discs and they work just fine, but Arnie can't get his bike to do a stoppie and the brakes only seem about 2/3 as powerful as V-brakes. He changed the pads and fluid and bled them through but they are no better. Anyone got any ideas?
Fwiw I would agree. The modulation is fine but they lack the top end stopping power. I'm using XT discs with mine.
A friend (no, really) has Hope Mono Minis on his On-One Tinbred, and apparently they suck. Another friend has the Deore discs and they work just fine, but Arnie can't get his bike to do a stoppie and the brakes only seem about 2/3 as powerful as V-brakes. He changed the pads and fluid and bled them through but they are no better. Anyone got any ideas?
Mono Minis assuredly shouldn't suck. They can squeal horribly until decently warmed up, but they don't suck, unless something is badly wrong. Contaminated pads?
Just zis Guy, you know? wrote on 02/08/2006 20:17 +0100:
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A friend (no, really) has Hope Mono Minis on his On-One Tinbred, and apparently they suck. Another friend has the Deore discs and they work just fine, but Arnie can't get his bike to do a stoppie and the brakes only seem about 2/3 as powerful as V-brakes. He changed the pads and fluid and bled them through but they are no better. Anyone got any ideas?
Guy
Pads and rotor clean? Oil contamination will not help. Clean disc with meths and bake pads in oven. Pads properly bedded in? Allow about 10hrs of normal riding or 10 mins in Yorkshire grit What pads - there are a variety available between very hard (and relatively poor braking) and very soft.
-- Tony
"Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using his intelligence; he is just using his memory." - Leonardo da Vinci
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A friend (no, really) has Hope Mono Minis on his On-One Tinbred, and apparently they suck. Another friend has the Deore discs and they work just fine, but Arnie can't get his bike to do a stoppie and the brakes only seem about 2/3 as powerful as V-brakes. He changed the pads and fluid and bled them through but they are no better. Anyone got any ideas?
They've got a bit of a reputation for naffness for anyone who does long descents or is a bit on the lardy side. Deore + Magura both better bets for reliability. But these sound like pad & disk have got something on them. Clean the disks, clean the pads (sandpaper and a blowtorch is the way that works for me on Magura pads if I get oil on them). If that doesn't work, send them back to Hope. Apparently they have very good warranty service.
A friend (no, really) has Hope Mono Minis on his On-One Tinbred, and apparently they suck.
Shouldn't do. I had Mono Mini's on my old MTB and now have Haynes Nines (the original spoke-in-wheels brake) on the new and the Mini's had plenty of power.
A friend (no, really) has Hope Mono Minis on his On-One Tinbred, and apparently they suck.
Shouldn't do. I had Mono Mini's on my old MTB and now have Haynes Nines (the original spoke-in-wheels brake) on the new and the Mini's had plenty of power.
H'mm... I've scrapped Hayes 9s in favour of Hope Minis, and don't regret it in the least. Hayes work all right while they work, but they're a complete bugger to service. Hopes are notoriously noisy, but they work just as well and are much easier to work on.
H'mm... I've scrapped Hayes 9s in favour of Hope Minis, and don't regret it in the least. Hayes work all right while they work, but they're a complete bugger to service. Hopes are notoriously noisy, but they work just as well and are much easier to work on.
All my recumbents have Hopes and I've only noticed a lack of stopping power once, this being when a lever on the trike went west.
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H'mm... I've scrapped Hayes 9s in favour of Hope Minis, and don't regret it in the least. Hayes work all right while they work, but they're a complete bugger to service. Hopes are notoriously noisy, but they work just as well and are much easier to work on.
All my recumbents have Hopes and I've only noticed a lack of stopping power once, this being when a lever on the trike went west.
They're brakes! The number of times I've had mechanical brakes fail me on my bike = 0. The number of times I've had hydraulic brakes fail me on my bike = 0. That is how it should be. Brakes should not fail. Hydraulic brakes are a very similar design to car and motorbike brakes, both of which are proven technology and repeatedly function correctly under much harsher conditions with much less servicing than the average bike brake. If a brake fails, it's because it's [censored].
They're brakes! The number of times I've had mechanical brakes fail me on my bike = 0. The number of times I've had hydraulic brakes fail me on my bike = 0. That is how it should be. Brakes should not fail. Hydraulic brakes are a very similar design to car and motorbike brakes, both of which are proven technology and repeatedly function correctly under much harsher conditions with much less servicing than the average bike brake. If a brake fails, it's because it's [censored].
Up to a point, Lord Copper. I suspect that this particular lever failed due to being installed vertically (reservoir at the bottom), thereby allowing all manner of unseemliness to sneak past the seals. It is hardly the fault of Hope that ICE install the levers that way round.
The Mini levers on the Speedmachine have been given a Damn' Good Thrashing for five years and >20,000 km without problems.
H'mm... I've scrapped Hayes 9s in favour of Hope Minis, and don't regret
My last bike was nicked, and Hayes were what the new one came with. Can't say I notice much difference to be honest.
You won't. They're good brakes - until you need to bleed them. I spent a morning, with Hayes own bleed kit, Hayes own instructions, and a huge amount of care trying, and failed; took them into my LBS with its very competent and experienced proprietor/mechanic, he spent five hours trying, and failed; I said 'fit Hopes'.
You won't. They're good brakes - until you need to bleed them. I spent a
That's what my LBS is for 🙂 And I know they can bleed Hayes brakes, so that's ok. If I was specing the bike from bits then I might have got something else, but there was no point changing perfectly good brakes
You won't. They're good brakes - until you need to bleed them. I spent a
That's what my LBS is for 🙂 And I know they can bleed Hayes brakes, so that's ok. If I was specing the bike from bits then I might have got something else, but there was no point changing perfectly good brakes
Can't remember if you were there or not Arthur but I recall someone (Shaun?) fettling his Hayes brake pads on the moorland above Hebden Bridge only to have a spring fly off into the heather (fortunately recovered) Do they still have that spring which always struck me as a dumb bit of design?
-- Tony
"Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using his intelligence; he is just using his memory." - Leonardo da Vinci
Can't remember if you were there or not Arthur but I recall someone (Shaun?) fettling his Hayes brake pads on the moorland above Hebden Bridge only to have a spring fly off into the heather (fortunately recovered) Do they still have that spring which always struck me as a dumb bit of design?
Yes, I was there. I've no idea what's inside them since I've never looked but since these are basically the same brakes (they've been unchanged for years) I suspect so.
