honesty from Freire

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<With one lap to go, Igor Astarloa asked his teammate Freire how he was feeling. "I can't follow
Bettini," said Freire. "You go ahead.">

Can you imagine Bartoli saying something like that?

Nope. The same goes for VDB (who raced with broken arms without telling his team mates at the
World's in Verona).

broken wrists ! and he still got top 10 if i remember correctly.

shawn

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From cyclingnews.com:

<With one lap to go, Igor Astarloa asked his teammate Freire how he was feeling. "I can't follow
Bettini," said Freire. "You go ahead.">

Can you imagine Bartoli saying something like that?

Nope. The same goes for VDB (who raced with broken arms without telling

his

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team mates at the World's in Verona).

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broken wrists ! and he still got top 10 if i remember correctly.

And no chance of winning (couldn't get out of saddle).

Had an obligation to tell teamates.

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From cyclingnews.com:

<With one lap to go, Igor Astarloa asked his teammate Freire how he was feeling. "I can't follow
Bettini," said Freire. "You go ahead.">

Can you imagine Bartoli saying something like that?

Bartoli does not need to say that, because he's simply the best. In 250 km long one day races he
always have the legs to follow whoever. When he misses a break, it's because of calculation errors,
of wrong strategy, not because he does not have the strenght.

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(John Forrest Tomlinson) said:

From cyclingnews.com:

<With one lap to go, Igor Astarloa asked his teammate Freire how he was feeling. "I can't follow
Bettini," said Freire. "You go ahead.">

Can you imagine Bartoli saying something like that?

Bartoli does not need to say that, because he's simply the best. In 250 km long one day races he
always have the legs to follow whoever. When he misses a break, it's because of calculation
errors, of wrong strategy, not because he does not have the strenght.

Bartoli sucks:

Bart Van Hoorebeeck said:

Andrei "Diplomacy" Tchmil had some nice comments on the World's in the Belgian press: "Bartoli must
have felt very early he didn't have a superday, and that his winning chances were slim. So he acted
in order to avoid the worst scenario for him: another Italian taking the title. He kept on to his
leader status, making sure the others wasted enough energy working for him. He didn't have the guts
to do an all-out effort and waited for the sprint. It was he who ordered Rebellin to go behind me
at the end, thereby depriving Rebellin of personal chances."

bartoli circa 1996-8, yes i agree. the bartoli of here and now, sorry no. ever since he smashed his
knee in the Tour of Germany in 1999 he hasn't been the same. his winning efforts are much more far
and in between now than in the past. and no one, except Merckx maybe, ALWAYS had the legs to follow
everyone in a 250k long race, sorry. bartoli just isn't the rider he used to be, but his mentality
is still stuck in the late 90's when he was WC champion. now, the aging bartoli has been much
overshadowed by his former 'gregario' bettini, good for you Paolo !

shawn

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(John Forrest Tomlinson) said:

From cyclingnews.com:

<With one lap to go, Igor Astarloa asked his teammate Freire how he was feeling. "I can't follow
Bettini," said Freire. "You go ahead.">

Can you imagine Bartoli saying something like that?

Bartoli does not need to say that, because he's simply the best. In 250 km long one day races he
always have the legs to follow whoever. When he misses a break, it's because of calculation
errors, of wrong strategy, not because he does not have the strenght.

that i won't argue with.

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broken wrists ! and he still got top 10 if i remember correctly.

And no chance of winning (couldn't get out of saddle).

Had an obligation to tell teamates.

Maybe Hincapie should have done the same...

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Can you imagine Bartoli saying something like that?

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Nope. The same goes for VDB (who raced with broken arms without telling his team mates at the
World's in Verona).

Dude he ended 7th and that was a result that no other Belgian rider was capable of that day. So I
think he made the most of it for the Belgian team.

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Nope. The same goes for VDB (who raced with broken arms without telling

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team mates at the World's in Verona).

Dude he ended 7th and that was a result that no other Belgian rider was capable of that day. So I
think he made the most of it for the Belgian team.

Really? There was no chance any of the Belgians might have been one of the six in front of him if
they did not spend the last laps defending a cripple?

You may be right but that is not what the rest of the team thought when they found out.

Dude...