Honest "average" speeds

I know what a century is. I did a few in my DF racing days.

But, what is this thing you call "rest stop"? ;-)

JV

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Jude T. McGloin said:

... In my case, I look at the "average speed" which is when you are actually moving vs. elapsed
time. Rich Pinto at the SeaGull Century. Average speed well over 20 mph. ET 6.5/7 hours. Half
hour at each rest stop? (guess)

Half-hour rest stops? Even I usually don't take that long. 😉 At the other extreme are those who
only stop once on a century for just long enough to refill their hydration bladders (Hi Ed) and
average over 20 mph including the rest stop (and 22-23 mph rolling average).

For those who doubt these average speeds, see the results of the 2002 UMCA Championships [1] where
the winner of the six hour race averaged
22.2 mph on a Challenge Jester on a course with an average of 35ft/mile of climbing.

[1] < iowaultra.com2002 24hr results.htmOpen ↗ >

Tom Sherman - Various HPV's Quad Cities USA (Illinois side)

Jude T. McGloin <[email hidden]> wrote:
: Seth, Hang around this NG and BROL msg. board for awhile and then attend a few recumbent rallies
: and you will realize who is posting truthful speed and who is full of [censored] and knows it.

But nobody rides to their full capacity in social events, one always waits for the other guys
to catch up.

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Nobody in the ultra fast pack waited for me in Stevens Point last year. Not that it matters I didn't
expect them to. I couldn't maintain the pace anyway. John and Kevin on AERO and AEROCYCLE
respectivly alsong with Ed, Alan and other Low Racers were maintaining mid 20's pace. At most
rallies there are usually distinct groups related to speed and number of stops they will make. This
is true for most rides. The SeaGull Century and very flat on too. Has 7/8K riders. Every kind of
bike/bent. Handcycles and racing wheelchairers, fixies (hi Dave) and others. Some use it for a timed
event. For others its strictly a social ride/event. For many the end of September means that they
are usually fit and at their peak. My ability is usually its best in the fall. Each to their own. I
can't ride as slow as some or as fast a others. There are many reasons to attend rallies. You get to
meet people and look at all gere of recumbents. You also see first hand speeds that are considered
BS by many on this NG.

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Jude T. McGloin <[email hidden]> wrote:
: Seth, Hang around this NG and BROL msg. board for awhile and then

attend a

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: few recumbent rallies and you will realize who is posting truthful speed

and

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: who is full of [censored] and knows it.

But nobody rides to their full capacity in social events, one always waits for the other guys to
catch up.

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In article said:

I've no doubt that there is BS'ing going on, but I tend to think there are such huge differences
in mileage being ridden that there will be huge differences in speeds.

This thread has been going on for a while, and there's something I don't understand. Why is there
any discussion at all about the validity of average speeds?

I have a cheap bicycle computer which can be calibrated to the exact milimetre for wheel diameter,
and in automatic mode, it displays my average speed for every ride, or until I reset it (in
automatic mode, it does not factor time spent stopped into the average).

I think it reports a very accurate figure, and there's no fudging or debating the average speed.
What the cycle computer says, is what it
IS. What's up with people discussing "honest" average speeds? I'm sure I'm missing some subtlety
here, so thanks for enlightening.

Paul Harris

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Quoted message said:

I've no doubt that there is BS'ing going on, but I tend to think there are such huge differences
in mileage being ridden that there will be huge differences in speeds.

This thread has been going on for a while, and there's something I don't understand. Why is there
any discussion at all about the validity of average speeds?

I have a cheap bicycle computer which can be calibrated to the exact milimetre for wheel diameter,
and in automatic mode, it displays my average speed for every ride, or until I reset it (in
automatic mode, it does not factor time spent stopped into the average).

I think it reports a very accurate figure, and there's no fudging or debating the average speed.
What the cycle computer says, is what it
IS. What's up with people discussing "honest" average speeds? I'm sure I'm missing some subtlety
here, so thanks for enlightening.

Paul Harris

Certainly folks aren't beyond "fudging" their numbers up a bit beyond what the puter says. Also LOTS
of folks puters aren't calibrated properly or are plain set up incorrectly. A friend's and mine were
.4 different after 11 miles, and both of us had done the chalk mark on tire/roll out and measure
method that is supposed to be the ultimate accuracy. Using the "stock" numbers for all tires lots of
them will be off.

I am interested in picking a hitch rack or trailer system to carry a recumbent and a conventional
bike to distant rides. I already have a 1
1/4" receiver hitch on my car.

I have consistently heard positive reports about the Sportworks rack system. In looking at their web
site they have a nice system for handling the differing needs of recumbent and conventional bikes.
Before I make a purchase I was interested in having some input into the benefits or disadvantages of
those who might be using using small utility trailers to haul bikes. I like the potential of being
able to develop a trailer enclosure to protect the bike from the elements.

Are their any specific trailers designed for this purpose?

Don Bacchetta Giro