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  1. http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2006/jul06/jul06news4

    Leipheimer in Ferrari hotel
    German press agency dpa has reported that Gerolsteiner team manager
    Hans-Michael Holczer had confirmed information according to which his
    Tour de France leader, American Levi Leipheimer, had possible contacts
    with controversial preparatore Michele Ferrari. At the start of stage
    five in Beauvais, Holczer admitted that Leipheimer had stayed in the
    same hotel during a training camp on Spanish island Tenerife last year.
    "But he assured me once again that he isn't working with the Italian,"
    said Holczer.

    He must be doping! He knows who Ferrari is and stayed in the same
    hotel. Hang the guilty [censored]!!!

    I stayed at the Platterhof several times, even have photos on the same
    overlook as the famous [censored] photo, HOLY [censored] I must be a Nazi. Great
    thing that the Nurenburg Trials would violate the Geneva convention.
    Guess I'm safe now.
    Bill C

  2. "Bill C" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2006/jul06/jul06news4

    Leipheimer in Ferrari hotel
    German press agency dpa has reported that Gerolsteiner team manager
    Hans-Michael Holczer had confirmed information according to which his
    Tour de France leader, American Levi Leipheimer, had possible contacts
    with controversial preparatore Michele Ferrari. At the start of stage
    five in Beauvais, Holczer admitted that Leipheimer had stayed in the
    same hotel during a training camp on Spanish island Tenerife last year.
    "But he assured me once again that he isn't working with the Italian,"
    said Holczer.

    He must be doping! He knows who Ferrari is and stayed in the same
    hotel. Hang the guilty [censored]!!!

    I stayed at the Platterhof several times, even have photos on the same
    overlook as the famous [censored] photo, HOLY [censored] I must be a Nazi. Great
    thing that the Nurenburg Trials would violate the Geneva convention.
    Guess I'm safe now.
    Bill C

    It appears to be a straight factual report. Maybe Ferrari was there to help
    Odessa and was consulting with Dr. Fuentes about Odessa's gynecological
    problems, eh?

  3. Quoted message said:

    It appears to be a straight factual report. Maybe Ferrari was there to
    help Odessa and was consulting with Dr. Fuentes about Odessa's
    gynecological problems, eh?

    I'm shocked. You've hung around here all this time, and seemingly learned
    nothing.

    It's all about the dog.

    --Mike Jacoubowsky
    Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReaction.com
    Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

    "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Bill C" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2006/jul06/jul06news4

    Leipheimer in Ferrari hotel
    German press agency dpa has reported that Gerolsteiner team manager
    Hans-Michael Holczer had confirmed information according to which his
    Tour de France leader, American Levi Leipheimer, had possible contacts
    with controversial preparatore Michele Ferrari. At the start of stage
    five in Beauvais, Holczer admitted that Leipheimer had stayed in the
    same hotel during a training camp on Spanish island Tenerife last year.
    "But he assured me once again that he isn't working with the Italian,"
    said Holczer.

    He must be doping! He knows who Ferrari is and stayed in the same
    hotel. Hang the guilty [censored]!!!

    I stayed at the Platterhof several times, even have photos on the same
    overlook as the famous [censored] photo, HOLY [censored] I must be a Nazi. Great
    thing that the Nurenburg Trials would violate the Geneva convention.
    Guess I'm safe now.
    Bill C

    It appears to be a straight factual report. Maybe Ferrari was there to
    help Odessa and was consulting with Dr. Fuentes about Odessa's
    gynecological problems, eh?

  4. "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    It appears to be a straight factual report. Maybe Ferrari was there to
    help Odessa and was consulting with Dr. Fuentes about Odessa's
    gynecological problems, eh?

    I'm shocked. You've hung around here all this time, and seemingly learned
    nothing.

    It's all about the dog.

    They have a dog with gynocological problems??

    Quoted message said:


    --Mike Jacoubowsky
    Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReaction.com
    Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

    "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Bill C" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2006/jul06/jul06news4

    Leipheimer in Ferrari hotel
    German press agency dpa has reported that Gerolsteiner team manager
    Hans-Michael Holczer had confirmed information according to which his
    Tour de France leader, American Levi Leipheimer, had possible contacts
    with controversial preparatore Michele Ferrari. At the start of stage
    five in Beauvais, Holczer admitted that Leipheimer had stayed in the
    same hotel during a training camp on Spanish island Tenerife last year.
    "But he assured me once again that he isn't working with the Italian,"
    said Holczer.

    He must be doping! He knows who Ferrari is and stayed in the same
    hotel. Hang the guilty [censored]!!!

    I stayed at the Platterhof several times, even have photos on the same
    overlook as the famous [censored] photo, HOLY [censored] I must be a Nazi. Great
    thing that the Nurenburg Trials would violate the Geneva convention.
    Guess I'm safe now.
    Bill C

    It appears to be a straight factual report. Maybe Ferrari was there to
    help Odessa and was consulting with Dr. Fuentes about Odessa's
    gynecological problems, eh?

  5. B. Lafferty said:

    They have a dog with gynocological problems??

    OH Maxi-Pads!
    I had exactly that same thought while reading down the thread...
    Bill C

  6. Isn't Leipheimer a Max Testa guy? I would be very surprised to see a
    guy who claims Max Testa as a coach to then be exposed as a Ferrari guy.

  7. Quoted message said:

    Isn't Leipheimer a Max Testa guy? I would be very surprised to see a
    guy who claims Max Testa as a coach to then be exposed as a Ferrari guy.

    The "exposure" was not intentional on Levi's part. Levi was invited by
    a member of the Discovery team to come to the island for some good
    training before the Tour. He was told there would be some Discovery
    guys there, and Michael Rogers. Levi decided to go but he didn't know
    until after he arrived that Ferrari was also invited to be there. Levi
    did some training with the group of riders and refused Ferrari's
    "suggestions".

    Today, T-Mobile told Michael Rogers to sever his ties with Ferrari.

  8. "Warren G" <[email hidden]> wrote...

    Quoted message said:


    The "exposure" was not intentional on Levi's part. Levi was invited by
    a member of the Discovery team to come to the island for some good
    training before the Tour. He was told there would be some Discovery
    guys there, and Michael Rogers. Levi decided to go but he didn't know
    until after he arrived that Ferrari was also invited to be there. Levi
    did some training with the group of riders and refused Ferrari's
    "suggestions".

    Today, T-Mobile told Michael Rogers to sever his ties with Ferrari.

    And how would you know all that?

    --
    Snippy B.

  9. "Warren G" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Isn't Leipheimer a Max Testa guy? I would be very surprised to see a
    guy who claims Max Testa as a coach to then be exposed as a Ferrari guy.

    The "exposure" was not intentional on Levi's part. Levi was invited by
    a member of the Discovery team to come to the island for some good
    training before the Tour. He was told there would be some Discovery
    guys there, and Michael Rogers. Levi decided to go but he didn't know
    until after he arrived that Ferrari was also invited to be there. Levi
    did some training with the group of riders and refused Ferrari's
    "suggestions".

    Today, T-Mobile told Michael Rogers to sever his ties with Ferrari.

    What's the logic behind going all the way to the Canary Islands for a
    pre-Tour camp when they've got all of continental Europe at their disposal?

  10. matabala said:

    What's the logic behind going all the way to the Canary Islands for a
    pre-Tour camp when they've got all of continental Europe at their disposal?

    Weather, focus, traffic; in that order.

    --
    E. Dronkert

  11. Ewoud Dronkert said:
    matabala said:

    What's the logic behind going all the way to the Canary Islands for a
    pre-Tour camp when they've got all of continental Europe at their disposal?

    Weather, focus, traffic; in that order.

    No altitude?

    Jenko

  12. Jenko said:
    Quoted message said:

    Weather, focus, traffic; in that order.

    No altitude?

    Oh right, are they significantly higher than any mountainous mainland
    training area? Like having easy access to roads and/or hotels above,
    say, 1500 m.

    Or did you mean virtual altitude effects as provided by Fuentes et
    al.? Then I guess relative seclusion of the islands is another
    advantage.

    --
    E. Dronkert

  13. Ewoud Dronkert said:
    Jenko said:
    Quoted message said:

    Weather, focus, traffic; in that order.

    No altitude?

    Oh right, are they significantly higher than any mountainous mainland
    training area? Like having easy access to roads and/or hotels above,
    say, 1500 m.

    There are hotels at the base of the Teide, at over 2000m of altitude. I
    assume riders stay there. There are more than 40 kms of road over 1900m
    at that area. Gradients mostly stay between 4% and 6%. Combined with
    good weather, those are ideal conditions for altitude training.

    Quoted message said:

    Or did you mean virtual altitude effects as provided by Fuentes et
    al.?

    Fuentes is from Tenerife, but I didn't mean that.

    Jenko

  14. in message <[email hidden]>, B.

    Lafferty (') said:


    "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    It appears to be a straight factual report. Maybe Ferrari was there
    to help Odessa and was consulting with Dr. Fuentes about Odessa's
    gynecological problems, eh?

    I'm shocked. You've hung around here all this time, and seemingly
    learned nothing.

    It's all about the dog.

    They have a dog with gynocological problems??

    Yes, but we DON'T talk about whose mother she is.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
    Iraq war: it's time for regime change...
    ... go now, Tony, while you can still go with dignity.
    [update 18 months after this .sig was written: it's still relevant]

  15. On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 08:28:41 +0200, "matabala" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "Warren G" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Isn't Leipheimer a Max Testa guy? I would be very surprised to see a
    guy who claims Max Testa as a coach to then be exposed as a Ferrari guy.

    The "exposure" was not intentional on Levi's part. Levi was invited by
    a member of the Discovery team to come to the island for some good
    training before the Tour. He was told there would be some Discovery
    guys there, and Michael Rogers. Levi decided to go but he didn't know
    until after he arrived that Ferrari was also invited to be there. Levi
    did some training with the group of riders and refused Ferrari's
    "suggestions".

    Today, T-Mobile told Michael Rogers to sever his ties with Ferrari.

    What's the logic behind going all the way to the Canary Islands for a
    pre-Tour camp when they've got all of continental Europe at their disposal?

    To learn how to pronounce "Lanzarote" properly?

    JT

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  16. chiefhiawatha said:
    Quoted message said:

    They have a dog with gynocological problems??

    Simon Brooke said:

    Yes, but we DON'T talk about whose mother she is.

    Lafferty does.

  17. "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Bill C" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2006/jul06/jul06news4

    Leipheimer in Ferrari hotel
    German press agency dpa has reported that Gerolsteiner team manager
    Hans-Michael Holczer had confirmed information according to which his
    Tour de France leader, American Levi Leipheimer, had possible contacts
    with controversial preparatore Michele Ferrari. At the start of stage
    five in Beauvais, Holczer admitted that Leipheimer had stayed in the
    same hotel during a training camp on Spanish island Tenerife last year.
    "But he assured me once again that he isn't working with the Italian,"
    said Holczer.

    He must be doping! He knows who Ferrari is and stayed in the same
    hotel. Hang the guilty [censored]!!!

    I stayed at the Platterhof several times, even have photos on the same
    overlook as the famous [censored] photo, HOLY [censored] I must be a Nazi. Great
    thing that the Nurenburg Trials would violate the Geneva convention.
    Guess I'm safe now.
    Bill C

    It appears to be a straight factual report. Maybe Ferrari was there to
    help Odessa and was consulting with Dr. Fuentes about Odessa's
    gynecological problems, eh?

    There you've got it from the hero of Toronto - Lafferty tells us that Levi
    is a doper. And who better to know than a dope?

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