Hippy - Pro Photographer?

yeah, the Madison was great

Amazing to watch, but after about lap 20 I couldn't follow who or wha
team was in front, gave up and just enjoyed watching the tactics

One question, just what really were the Police Bicycle Patrol up to
Maybe they just thought bringing along a radar gun to check on cyclist
speeds in the straight would be fun.....what this leading to......

I know there were official places for 1,2,3, but Team 9 (black) won th
Madison for sheer guts & determination, poor things spent a fair bit o
the race on their bums, but still finished

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yeah, the Madison was great.

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I know there were official places for 1,2,3, but Team 9 (black) won the
Madison for sheer guts & determination, poor things spent a fair bit of
the race on their bums, but still finished.

Pat and Simon (Black Team) performed a treat. Pat was a little sore after
the first fall so he was a little off for the rest of the race but to his
credit he persevered and provided Simon with a gutsy performance and even
after they both crashed during a change (Pat came off the worst from this
fall) and a quick wheelchange, courtesy his father, he was back under way.
In the closing laps of the he race perfectly positioned himself to provide
Simon with the opportunity of the night going into the final lap. Simon
crossed the line first in the final sprint ahead of some pretty elite
european company.

These two were back on the track today in the Under 19s Victorian Points
Race Champs and again performed pretty well. I had a chat to Pat today who
says he doesn't feel too bad despite a restless nights sleep. His bike, a
BT painted up as a Giant, is sporting a few new scars.

Mitch the guy NickZX6R saw crash in front of him. I think he came fourth
today in the U19s points race, after putting in some really aggressive
riding.

Geoff

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Originally posted by Nickzx6r Nice pics Hippy

Cheers, I got a few 'good' shots at the Madison compared to the previou
events at Vodafone. I used the flash quite a bit on Sat - normally
don't - I always try to shoot with natural light. That just doesn't wor
with some situations (slowish lens, dodgy lighting, action)

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I didn't manage to get many decent pics at all. I don't think indoo
velodromes are much good for my digital camera

What sort of camera? I can offer some VERY basic advice but you'r
probably better off searching the web or posting to the aus.photo ng
Expert I am not! :

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That guy whose tyre rolled off happened right on front of me on th
banking. Wasn't the madison exciting stuff!!

It was totally crazy! The riders are totally crazy! I would hate to be
scorer for one of those races

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Can't wait for the UCI Worlds

I hope I can get tickets for that! What are the chances that i
will sell out

hipp

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Originally posted by Geoff I had a chat to Pat today who says h
doesn't feel too bad despite a restless nights sleep. His bike, a B
painted up as a Giant, is sporting a few new scars

Really?! Danny and I were talking about that bike as he rolled around
before we met you. He was like "that Giant looks just like those BT's
and I said something like "maybe it IS a BT but he's sponsored by Giant
or maybe Giant contract BT to make their track frames" - but I'd neve
seen a Giant track frame - "or maybe they just copied the design?"

Now I know.. but why is it painted as a Giant? Sponsorship

Good to meet you Geoff, I'll get those pics up sooner or later, thoug
I'm not sure if I actually got any of you this time. I had my new wid
lens on - not so good for racing shots..

Oh, I didn't make it to Voda today - I was just too sore after Glenval
and ended up suffering a splitting headache while "assisting" my girl i
one of her shopping expeditions.

How'd you go

hipp

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Noice, Hippy

wot camera are you using and what kinda settings do you have to get i
to for decent exposures in such 'trying' lighting

done this stuff at speedskating but there you have the large advantag
of a huge 'light-bounce' off the ice

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Originally posted by flyingdutch wot camera are you using and wha
kinda settings do you have to get it to for decent exposures in suc
'trying' lighting

Canon 10D with mid-range 28-135mm f3.5-f5.6 zoom and recentl
acquired (Sat morn) 17-40mm f4 wide for the holiday (leaving in
just over a week!)

Usually I don't use a flash, but given all the issues I've had wit
previous races there, I thought I'd give it a go. Means my upper shutte
speed is 1/200 and I can't take burts of shots (need time for flash t
charge). But I'm happier with these than most of the others. Still muc
work to be done though! (Anyone know how I can score a press pass an
sneak onto the track?) I usually use shutter-speed priority mode a
1/180, ISO400 (>800 is too noisy when cropped). Still have to post
process most images as they are still usually underexposed. Takes ages

hipp

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Originally posted by flyingdutch wot camera are you using and what
kinda settings do you have to get it to for decent exposures in such
'trying' lighting?

Canon 10D with mid-range 28-135mm f3.5-f5.6 zoom and recently
acquired (Sat morn) 17-40mm f4 wide for the holiday (leaving in a
just over a week!).
hippy

you batch-processing them in photoshop or individually

i want one of them new (i think) 8Mb cameras. Sony, is it? got a coo
idea for some action pics. Will post some when I get round to doin
it/them. track/skateboarding and bmx stuff at this stage. Will do i
daytime but what ireally need is a camera that can have minimal 'in
between' shots time. Played with a mate's Nikon 5700 which is an awesom
little bugger for the Do, but that new one has my eye now (hmmmmm. T
frame or new camera. Ti or camera.........

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Originally posted by flyingdutch you batch-processing them in photosho
or individually

I take RAWs and I've been trialling CaptureOne to process them. For we
gallerys, it can do bulk processing but for the cyclingnews pics I g
through and individually adjust, crop, sharpen and then output th
"good" ones. It is a total pain

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i want one of them new (i think) 8Mb cameras. Sony, is it

Just remember megapixels ain't everything.

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got a cool idea for some action pics

Do tell! (unless it is a secret project, of course 🙂

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track/skateboarding and bmx stuff at this stage

You know some skaters/bmx'ers

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Will do in daytime but what ireally need is a camera that can hav
minimal 'in-between' shots time

Lag is a big factor with digital cameras. All compact digitals suffe
from noticeble lag (unless they've improved them greatly in the last
months?) DSLRs are much less prone to lag (hence their cost) and that'
why the pro's tend to use them - work like a film camera but with _much
less "development" time

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Played with a mate's Nikon 5700 which is an awesome little >bugger fo
the Do, but that new one has my eye no

How much are they now? Some guys at work have Nikon compacts - maybe th
5000 though

Ti or camera - tough choice... I'd have to go Ti frame though. :

hipp

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I take RAWs and I've been trialling CaptureOne to process them. For
web gallerys, it can do bulk processing but for the cyclingnews pics I
go through and individually adjust, crop, sharpen and then output the
"good" ones. It is a total pain!

You tried Photoshop's webgallery? the new CS version (8, in numbers) is
pretty good

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i want one of them new (i think) 8Mb cameras. Sony, is it? Just
remember megapixels ain't everything.. . Yeah, I know but want to put
together a series of Posters and possibly spin off into jigsaw puzzles
too, so end size could be up to A2 in size

Do tell! (unless it is a secret project, of course 🙂) David Hockney-
style. 'tell-a-story' type stuff

checkout my freelance site:
http://home.iprimus.com.au/adenhollander/c8.html

follow the dropdown to 'marketing' and the images in the style Im
thinking are on the secondary pages of the first (CPI) set. The site is
very outta date so need to update

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You know some skaters/bmx'ers?

Not really. Just rock up at the yarra bowl or the camberwell one
occasionally. Got friendly enough with a couple of regulars at
camberwell who were keen to be involved

Lag is a big factor with digital cameras. All compact digitals suffer
from noticeble lag (unless they've improved them greatly in the last 6
months?) DSLRs are much less prone to lag (hence their cost) and that's
why the pro's tend to use them - work like a film camera but with _much_
less "development" time.

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Played with a mate's Nikon 5700 which is an awesome little >>bugger
for the Do, but that new one has my eye now

How much are they now? Seen them recently for about $1450! down
from 12 months previous of $2600 so there must be something new
iminent, perhaps?

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Ti or camera - tough choice... I'd have to go Ti frame though. 🙂

Its easier to hide a camera from 'Her-indoors' :-) (not that she is
allowed in the shed, mind...

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Originally posted by flyingdutch You tried Photoshop's webgallery? th
new CS version (8, in numbers) is pretty goo

Yeah, but are you gonna buy it for me? :

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Just remember megapixels ain't everything..

Yeah, I know but want to put together a series of Posters and possibl
spin off into jigsaw puzzles too, so end size could be up to A2 in siz

I've not tried printing anything bigger than A4. It's too dam
expensive! Remember posters are viewed from a distance so you should b
able to get away with upscaling/interpolating a smaller image (if yo
didn't get a high-MP camera)

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Do tell! (unless it is a secret project, of course 🙂

David Hockney-style. 'tell-a-story' type stuf

Never 'erd of 'im..

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http://home.iprimus.com.au/adenhollander/c8.html follow the dropdown t
'marketing' and the images in the style Im thinking are on th
secondary pages of the first (CPI) set

Ahh, I know what you mean. They are an awesome style. I've see
some pretty cool ones. I think Manningham CC has shots of a pier i
this style

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How much are they now? Seen them recently for about $1450! dow
from 12 months previous of $2600 so there must be something ne
iminent, perhaps

There always is! You just have to bite the bullet with digicams. Yo
either buy the latest or try to time it so you buy a model that's bein
'run out'. Good luck :

hipp

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Yeah, but are you gonna buy it for me? :P

Ah, the pleasures of Ares/Limewire/Aqlite/etc and a ADSL/Cabl
connection... (maybe we should 'talk'

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I've not tried printing anything bigger than A4

'Her-indoors' works from home and runs an epson 1290 and a 3000 so siz
is a luxury for mo

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David Hockney-style. 'tell-a-story' type stuff Never 'erd of 'im..

"Youth is wasted on the young" :-) (then again so are strong legs!!!

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Originally posted by Nickzx6r Nice pics Hippy.

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Cheers, I got a few 'good' shots at the Madison compared to the previous
events at Vodafone. I used the flash quite a bit on Sat - normally I
don't - I always try to shoot with natural light. That just doesn't work
with some situations (slowish lens, dodgy lighting, action).

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I didn't manage to get many decent pics at all. I don't think indoor
velodromes are much good for my digital camera.

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What sort of camera? I can offer some VERY basic advice but you're
probably better off searching the web or posting to the aus.photo ng.
Expert I am not! 🙂

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That guy whose tyre rolled off happened right on front of me on the
banking. Wasn't the madison exciting stuff!!!

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It was totally crazy! The riders are totally crazy! I would hate to be a
scorer for one of those races!

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Can't wait for the UCI Worlds.

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I hope I can get tickets for that! What are the chances that it
will sell out?

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hippy

My camera is a Fujifilm Finepix 2800. I think the main problem is probably
the flash. ie. not enough range, as is the case with most built-in flashes.
I'm also completely clueless about photography.

Doesn't bother me too much because the more time I spend taking pics
the less I see of the actual racing.

As at yesterday, the lower seating areas were filling up fast but the
upper areas weren't so I'll be buying my tickets tomorrow for the
Sunday afternoon finals session, because that's the only session
with a madison.

It won't surprise you to know that there are no qualifiers for the madison.
If they had qual's I think the race field would be too small 🙂

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Now I know.. but why is it painted as a Giant? Sponsorship?

Correct, Pat is sponsored by Giant Bicycles.

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Oh, I didn't make it to Voda today - I was just too sore after Glenvale
and ended up suffering a splitting headache while "assisting" my girl in
one of her shopping expeditions..

Hmm, sometimes we have to realise there is a life that exists away from the
bike and and occaisionally we even have to take part in it 🙂

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How'd you go?

Finished with the bunch however not in the placings. Official Race Time
13.44.80 (Avg Speed approx 43.7kph). I managed, to my own surprise, to win
the fight for third wheel coming into the second last lap. I was perfectly
positioned but just didn't have anything left for the kick at the end. This
was a far better performance than last year where I finished 3 laps down on
the leaders. What a difference a year and some training makes!

Geoff

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Originally posted by Nickzx6r

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Can't wait for the UCI Worlds. I hope I can get tickets for that! What
are the chances that it will sell out?

My camera is a Fujifilm Finepix 2800. I think the main problem is
probably the flash. ie. not enough range, as is the case with most built-
in flashes. I'm also completely clueless about photography.

I know that camera. A guy at work has one. Not sure how powerful the
flash is though. Does it have a hotshoe attachment on top for a larger
flash? (He doesn't have it here today, so I can't look 🙂).

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Doesn't bother me too much because the more time I spend taking pics
the less I see of the actual racing.

That is probably a bit true.. but I get less dizzy this way. 😉

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As at yesterday, the lower seating areas were filling up fast but the
upper areas weren't so I'll be buying my tickets tomorrow for the
Sunday afternoon finals session, because that's the only session with
a madison.

$50 for a "cheap" ticket! Damn.. (there's always the dodgy tv coverage
afterwards..)

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It won't surprise you to know that there are no qualifiers for
the madison. If they had qual's I think the race field would be
too small 🙂

Too right! Nutters!

Damn, here I was thinking about getting to most of the sessions and
they're all $50 (except for the Thu morning session). No fair! 🙁

hippy

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My camera is a Fujifilm Finepix 2800. I think the main problem is
probably the flash. ie. not enough range, as is the case with most built-
in flashes. I'm also completely clueless about photography.

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I know that camera. A guy at work has one. Not sure how powerful the
flash is though. Does it have a hotshoe attachment on top for a larger
flash? (He doesn't have it here today, so I can't look 🙂).

No hotshoe 🙁
In digital camera terms it's ancient at a year and a half old.

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Damn, here I was thinking about getting to most of the sessions and
they're all $50 (except for the Thu morning session). No fair! 🙁

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hippy

Yeah I know it's daylight robbery but I can't pass up the opportunity
to see top class track racing.

I've only been to Vodafone Arena twice so far so I'm only at the early
stages of addiction 🙂

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