Hip-replacement recovery?

A guy in our club had a hip done at about that age.
In fact, the hip was one of the things that got him
into bikes. Prior to the replacement, the hip had
deteriorated to the point where *walking* was very
difficult for him. But he could still *ride* for
extended periods without pain. So he was riding quite
a lot.

Post surgery he is still riding a lot. He's a little
nervous about crashing and wrecking the hardware though.
So he no longer does any mass start racing and is
careful about group rides.

Another guy in our club recently had a hip done, he's
in his early 50s. I saw him yesterday at the ski trails,
he was quite happy with how it turned out. Prior to the
surgery he was a faster skier than me. He was leaving
as we were arriving so I don't know if that's still the
case.

Bob Schwartz

Mike Jacoubowsky said:

We've got a customer in his mid-50s who is about to have hip-replacement
surgery. He's concerned about his recovery, and if he'll be able to continue
to ride hard (he's a very strong cyclist). So the question is, are there any
OLD fatty masters out here who've gone through hip replacement surgery, and
survived to tell the tale?

Thanks-

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

Mike,

I know two guys that have had either hip replacement or hip
resurfacing. The guy with the hip replacement recovered quickly but
never raced again. His pedal stroke is much better than before surgery
because he no longer has to protect the bad hip. He still rides every
day and does long weekend rides. The guy with the hip resurface
recovered quickly and a year later won the CO 45+ cyclocross
championship. Enough said.

Bret

Thanks, you guys (Bob & Bret) have probably done a lot to help this guy's
spirits. Great information!

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

Mike Jacoubowsky said:

We've got a customer in his mid-50s who is about to have hip-replacement
surgery. He's concerned about his recovery, and if he'll be able to continue
to ride hard (he's a very strong cyclist). So the question is, are there any
OLD fatty masters out here who've gone through hip replacement surgery, and
survived to tell the tale?

Thanks-

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

I knew someone who maybe in his 50's fell and fractured his hip. It
was pinned, they screwed up, got an artificial hip. He continued to
ride (and run!) for a while. I think he gave up the running eventually.
He fell and broke the other hip. I don't remember if it was
successfully repaired or needed to be replaced. I know he continued to
ride. I'm no longer in touch with him--he lived in northern NJ last I
knew. Many may know him, though I don't want to mention his name. He
used to own his own bike company.
Another guy owns a bike shop in NY. He has one artificial hip and the
other leg an artificial knee. He still rides, but told me the other day
"not enough".
The first guy would probably be past 70 now, the second about 60 and
way too heavy. But they both ride, and so far as I know without pain.
I doubt they're fast, but I'd bet they could be...

Steve

On Feb 1, 7:03 pm, Steven Bornfeld <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Mike Jacoubowsky said:

We've got a customer in his mid-50s who is about to have hip-replacement
surgery. He's concerned about his recovery, and if he'll be able to continue
to ride hard (he's a very strong cyclist). So the question is, are thereany
OLD fatty masters out here who've gone through hip replacement surgery, and
survived to tell the tale?

Quoted message said:

Thanks-

Quoted message said:

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

I knew someone who maybe in his 50's fell and fractured his hip.  It
was pinned, they screwed up, got an artificial hip.  He continued to
ride (and run!) for a while.  I think he gave up the running eventually.
  He fell and broke the other hip.  I don't remember if it was
successfully repaired or needed to be replaced.  I know he continued to
ride.  I'm no longer in touch with him--he lived in northern NJ last I
knew.  Many may know him, though I don't want to mention his name.  He
used to own his own bike company.
        Another guy owns a bike shop in NY.  He has one artificial hip and the
other leg an artificial knee.  He still rides, but told me the other day
"not enough".
        The first guy would probably be past 70 now, the second about 60 and
way too heavy.  But they both ride, and so far as I know without pain.
I doubt they're fast, but I'd bet they could be...

Steve

Hey Steve
I'm nowhere near that category, and my cousin has just had his knee
repalcement, but what I've found is that with a good Doc who
understands cycling today's procedures are incredibly effective. In
almost every case, after surgey, I've developed pretty severe
tendonitis from being able to do so much more with that limb with
easily manageable pain.
I'm a huge fan of good, modern, osteopathy.
Bill C

If he is interested in a second opinion, then I speak from experience when I
say that I believe www.SteadmanHawkins.com is good enough that they can
"put humpty dumpty back together again". ( a car ran over me and they put
me back together, now I am working on getting back up to speed )

John
www.MyReader.net

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On Feb 1, 7:03 pm, Steven Bornfeld <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Mike Jacoubowsky said:

We've got a customer in his mid-50s who is about to have hip-replacement
surgery. He's concerned about his recovery, and if he'll be able to
continue
to ride hard (he's a very strong cyclist). So the question is, are there
any
OLD fatty masters out here who've gone through hip replacement surgery,
and
survived to tell the tale?

Quoted message said:

Thanks-

Quoted message said:

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

I knew someone who maybe in his 50's fell and fractured his hip. It
was pinned, they screwed up, got an artificial hip. He continued to
ride (and run!) for a while. I think he gave up the running eventually.
He fell and broke the other hip. I don't remember if it was
successfully repaired or needed to be replaced. I know he continued to
ride. I'm no longer in touch with him--he lived in northern NJ last I
knew. Many may know him, though I don't want to mention his name. He
used to own his own bike company.
Another guy owns a bike shop in NY. He has one artificial hip and the
other leg an artificial knee. He still rides, but told me the other day
"not enough".
The first guy would probably be past 70 now, the second about 60 and
way too heavy. But they both ride, and so far as I know without pain.
I doubt they're fast, but I'd bet they could be...

Steve

Hey Steve
I'm nowhere near that category, and my cousin has just had his knee
repalcement, but what I've found is that with a good Doc who
understands cycling today's procedures are incredibly effective. In
almost every case, after surgey, I've developed pretty severe
tendonitis from being able to do so much more with that limb with
easily manageable pain.
I'm a huge fan of good, modern, osteopathy.
Bill C

Quoted message said:

The first guy would probably be past 70 now, the second about 60 and way
too heavy.

Charlie?

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

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Quoted message said:

Mike Jacoubowsky said:

We've got a customer in his mid-50s who is about to have hip-replacement
surgery. He's concerned about his recovery, and if he'll be able to
continue to ride hard (he's a very strong cyclist). So the question is,
are there any OLD fatty masters out here who've gone through hip
replacement surgery, and survived to tell the tale?

Thanks-

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

I knew someone who maybe in his 50's fell and fractured his hip. It was
pinned, they screwed up, got an artificial hip. He continued to ride (and
run!) for a while. I think he gave up the running eventually. He fell and
broke the other hip. I don't remember if it was successfully repaired or
needed to be replaced. I know he continued to ride. I'm no longer in
touch with him--he lived in northern NJ last I knew. Many may know him,
though I don't want to mention his name. He used to own his own bike
company.
Another guy owns a bike shop in NY. He has one artificial hip and the
other leg an artificial knee. He still rides, but told me the other day
"not enough".
The first guy would probably be past 70 now, the second about 60 and way
too heavy. But they both ride, and so far as I know without pain. I doubt
they're fast, but I'd bet they could be...

Steve

Mike Jacoubowsky said:

OLD fatty masters out here who've gone through hip replacement surgery, and
survived to tell the tale?

I remember this thread from a year ago in another group:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.rowing/browse_frm/thread/799359eff4e29e8f

In article
<[email hidden]>,

Bret said:

Mike Jacoubowsky said:

We've got a customer in his mid-50s who is about to have hip-replacement
surgery. He's concerned about his recovery, and if he'll be able to continue
to ride hard (he's a very strong cyclist). So the question is, are there any
OLD fatty masters out here who've gone through hip replacement surgery, and
survived to tell the tale?

Thanks-

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

Mike,

I know two guys that have had either hip replacement or hip
resurfacing. The guy with the hip replacement recovered quickly but
never raced again. His pedal stroke is much better than before surgery
because he no longer has to protect the bad hip. He still rides every
day and does long weekend rides. The guy with the hip resurface
recovered quickly and a year later won the CO 45+ cyclocross
championship. Enough said.

Bret

Hm. I thought we'd already established how ridiculous fatty masters
state championships were, especially in obscure disciplines. Isn't this
really evidence for that thesis, rather than evidence of a post-surgery
normal life?

But you know, if it keeps the patients happy,

--
Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

Mike Jacoubowsky said:

Quoted message said:

The first guy would probably be past 70 now, the second about 60 and way
too heavy.

Charlie?

The second guy, yes. As you may know, his first knee replacement, done
at the time of his hip, didn't work out well. Hips were pretty much
figured out at the time; knees were not. Maybe 10 or so years later,
his second knee replacement seems to be fine.
Terrific guy--I've known him almost 30 years.

Steve

Quoted message said:

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

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Quoted message said:

Mike Jacoubowsky said:

We've got a customer in his mid-50s who is about to have hip-replacement
surgery. He's concerned about his recovery, and if he'll be able to
continue to ride hard (he's a very strong cyclist). So the question is,
are there any OLD fatty masters out here who've gone through hip
replacement surgery, and survived to tell the tale?

Thanks-

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

I knew someone who maybe in his 50's fell and fractured his hip. It was
pinned, they screwed up, got an artificial hip. He continued to ride (and
run!) for a while. I think he gave up the running eventually. He fell and
broke the other hip. I don't remember if it was successfully repaired or
needed to be replaced. I know he continued to ride. I'm no longer in
touch with him--he lived in northern NJ last I knew. Many may know him,
though I don't want to mention his name. He used to own his own bike
company.
Another guy owns a bike shop in NY. He has one artificial hip and the
other leg an artificial knee. He still rides, but told me the other day
"not enough".
The first guy would probably be past 70 now, the second about 60 and way
too heavy. But they both ride, and so far as I know without pain. I doubt
they're fast, but I'd bet they could be...

Steve

Ryan Cousineau said:

Hm. I thought we'd already established how ridiculous fatty masters
state championships were, especially in obscure disciplines. Isn't this
really evidence for that thesis, rather than evidence of a post-surgery
normal life?

Not to me it isn't.

Steve

Quoted message said:

But you know, if it keeps the patients happy,

"Steven Bornfeld" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

The second guy, yes. As you may know, his first knee replacement, done at
the time of his hip, didn't work out well. Hips were pretty much figured
out at the time; knees were not. Maybe 10 or so years later, his second
knee replacement seems to be fine.
Terrific guy--I've known him almost 30 years.

About 10 years ago a local guy I knew had two knees replaced. The first one
was so wonderful he agreed wholeheartedly for the second one which never
worked correctly.

While I'm sure that there have been improvements in the mechanisms you must
always remember that the human body is extremely complicated and even very
slight misalignments in installation may make the best equipment painful at
best.

Ryan Cousineau said:

In article
<[email hidden]>,

Bret said:

Mike Jacoubowsky said:

We've got a customer in his mid-50s who is about to have hip-replacement
surgery. He's concerned about his recovery, and if he'll be able to continue
to ride hard (he's a very strong cyclist). So the question is, are there any
OLD fatty masters out here who've gone through hip replacement surgery, and
survived to tell the tale?

Thanks-

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

Mike,

I know two guys that have had either hip replacement or hip
resurfacing. The guy with the hip replacement recovered quickly but
never raced again. His pedal stroke is much better than before surgery
because he no longer has to protect the bad hip. He still rides every
day and does long weekend rides. The guy with the hip resurface
recovered quickly and a year later won the CO 45+ cyclocross
championship. Enough said.

Bret

Hm. I thought we'd already established how ridiculous fatty masters
state championships were, especially in obscure disciplines. Isn't this
really evidence for that thesis, rather than evidence of a post-surgery
normal life?

Actually, I believe it's evidence that I need my hip resurfaced.

Tom Kunich said:

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Quoted message said:

The second guy, yes. As you may know, his first knee replacement,
done at the time of his hip, didn't work out well. Hips were pretty
much figured out at the time; knees were not. Maybe 10 or so years
later, his second knee replacement seems to be fine.
Terrific guy--I've known him almost 30 years.

About 10 years ago a local guy I knew had two knees replaced. The first
one was so wonderful he agreed wholeheartedly for the second one which
never worked correctly.

While I'm sure that there have been improvements in the mechanisms you
must always remember that the human body is extremely complicated and
even very slight misalignments in installation may make the best
equipment painful at best.

Right. Also, all doctors are not created equal.

Ryan Cousineau said:

In article
<[email hidden]>,

Bret said:

Mike Jacoubowsky said:

We've got a customer in his mid-50s who is about to have hip-replacement
surgery. He's concerned about his recovery, and if he'll be able to continue
to ride hard (he's a very strong cyclist). So the question is, are there any
OLD fatty masters out here who've gone through hip replacement surgery, and
survived to tell the tale?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Thanks-

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

Quoted message said:

Mike,

Quoted message said:

I know two guys that have had either hip replacement or hip
resurfacing. The guy with the hip replacement recovered quickly but
never raced again. His pedal stroke is much better than before surgery
because he no longer has to protect the bad hip. He still rides every
day and does long weekend rides. The guy with the hip resurface
recovered quickly and a year later won the CO 45+ cyclocross
championship. Enough said.

Quoted message said:

Bret

Hm. I thought we'd already established how ridiculous fatty masters
state championships were, especially in obscure disciplines. Isn't this
really evidence for that thesis, rather than evidence of a post-surgery
normal life?

But you know, if it keeps the patients happy,

--
Ryan Cousineau [email hidden]://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

My point was that his hip functioned well enough in a reasonably
competitive circumstance. If you had been there I think he would have
lapped you. How ridiculous is that Ryan?

Bret

In article
<[email hidden]>,

Bret said:

Ryan Cousineau said:

In article
<[email hidden]>,

Bret said:

On Feb 1, 2:37 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> We've got a customer in his mid-50s who is about to have
> hip-replacement
> surgery. He's concerned about his recovery, and if he'll be able to
> continue
> to ride hard (he's a very strong cyclist). So the question is, are
> there any
> OLD fatty masters out here who've gone through hip replacement surgery,
> and
> survived to tell the tale?

Quoted message said:

> Thanks-

Quoted message said:

> --Mike Jacoubowsky
> Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReaction.com
> Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

Quoted message said:

Mike,

Quoted message said:

I know two guys that have had either hip replacement or hip
resurfacing. The guy with the hip replacement recovered quickly but
never raced again. His pedal stroke is much better than before surgery
because he no longer has to protect the bad hip. He still rides every
day and does long weekend rides. The guy with the hip resurface
recovered quickly and a year later won the CO 45+ cyclocross
championship. Enough said.

Quoted message said:

Bret

Hm. I thought we'd already established how ridiculous fatty masters
state championships were, especially in obscure disciplines. Isn't this
really evidence for that thesis, rather than evidence of a post-surgery
normal life?

But you know, if it keeps the patients happy,

--
Ryan Cousineau [email hidden]://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

My point was that his hip functioned well enough in a reasonably
competitive circumstance. If you had been there I think he would have
lapped you. How ridiculous is that Ryan?

Bret

Not as ridiculous as I. It's clear my attempt at humor didn't work out
that well.

Yes, clearly, anyone who can compete for the CO state CX championship
(which I'm guessing would be one of the top-5 most competitive state CX
championships in the country) in his age group is not being seriously
impeded by their hip surgery. I was hoping to use this tidbit to take a
cheap shot at age-grouped state championships, a traditional
whipping-boy of Standard RBR Theory, the joke being of the "so lame even
a guy with a metal hip can win them!" nature.

Kudos to both riders in the original example. I've struggled with [censored]
knees since my teenage years, and only hope to be riding 30 years from
now, no matter what kind of hips and knees I have to use.

--
Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The first guy would probably be past 70 now, the second about 60 and way
too heavy.

Charlie?

The second guy, yes. As you may know, his first knee replacement, done at
the time of his hip, didn't work out well. Hips were pretty much figured
out at the time; knees were not. Maybe 10 or so years later, his second
knee replacement seems to be fine.
Terrific guy--I've known him almost 30 years.

Steve

Steve: Charlie is, indeed, a great guy. I've only known him for maybe 10-15
years though. But I promise to not tell him you pegged his age at "about
60." I'm pretty sure he's in his mid-50s, and take it from a 52 year old, we
DON'T need those years ticking off any faster than they already are! :>😉

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

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Quoted message said:

Mike Jacoubowsky said:

Quoted message said:

The first guy would probably be past 70 now, the second about 60 and way
too heavy.

Charlie?

The second guy, yes. As you may know, his first knee replacement, done at
the time of his hip, didn't work out well. Hips were pretty much figured
out at the time; knees were not. Maybe 10 or so years later, his second
knee replacement seems to be fine.
Terrific guy--I've known him almost 30 years.

Steve

Quoted message said:

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

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Quoted message said:

Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
> We've got a customer in his mid-50s who is about to have
> hip-replacement surgery. He's concerned about his recovery, and if
> he'll be able to continue to ride hard (he's a very strong cyclist). So
> the question is, are there any OLD fatty masters out here who've gone
> through hip replacement surgery, and survived to tell the tale?
>
> Thanks-
>
> --Mike Jacoubowsky
> Chain Reaction Bicycles
> www.ChainReaction.com
> Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

I knew someone who maybe in his 50's fell and fractured his hip. It was
pinned, they screwed up, got an artificial hip. He continued to ride
(and run!) for a while. I think he gave up the running eventually. He
fell and broke the other hip. I don't remember if it was successfully
repaired or needed to be replaced. I know he continued to ride. I'm no
longer in touch with him--he lived in northern NJ last I knew. Many may
know him, though I don't want to mention his name. He used to own his
own bike company.
Another guy owns a bike shop in NY. He has one artificial hip and the
other leg an artificial knee. He still rides, but told me the other day
"not enough".
The first guy would probably be past 70 now, the second about 60 and way
too heavy. But they both ride, and so far as I know without pain. I
doubt they're fast, but I'd bet they could be...

Steve

Fred Fredburger said:

Actually, I believe it's evidence that I need my hip resurfaced.

Why not go the whole hog and get a ultra light fatty
master carbon fibre hip with titanium screws.

Tom Kunich said:

"Steven Bornfeld" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

The second guy, yes. As you may know, his first knee replacement,
done at the time of his hip, didn't work out well. Hips were pretty
much figured out at the time; knees were not. Maybe 10 or so years
later, his second knee replacement seems to be fine.
Terrific guy--I've known him almost 30 years.

About 10 years ago a local guy I knew had two knees replaced. The first
one was so wonderful he agreed wholeheartedly for the second one which
never worked correctly.

While I'm sure that there have been improvements in the mechanisms you
must always remember that the human body is extremely complicated and
even very slight misalignments in installation may make the best
equipment painful at best.

Right. But a good surgeon with experience will have the odds stacked
in the patients' favor. There's basic competence, then there's working
out the bugs in a new device, then there's getting familiar with the
surgical armamentarium, and then there's clinical experience over time
with what works and what doesn't.
That's why IMO you have to go not only to a good doctor, but to a
facility that has a lot of experience with the particular procedure
you're having done, and a well-documented high success rate. In New
York, I'd look first at Hospital for Special Surgery and Hospital of
Joint Diseases.

Steve

--
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001