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  1. Did my first official hillclimb today. Off road, on rough track, and
    actually one of my favourite training climbs so I knew it pretty well.
    Only 200 metres vertically...

    It's a bloody lonely discipline, hill climb! I started last, and I only
    saw one other cyclist all the way up. Worse, I think, than time
    trialling in that sense. And hard, hard, hard because the hill just
    never lets up. I took the Mantra because it climbs well, but it was
    having a problem staying in second gear so I was having to shift up to
    third every time the hill eased a bit and then down again to first for
    the next steepening. And the track deteriorates as the climb goes on,
    the first eighty or so good, the next sixty or so through the wood very
    rough and rocky, and the final forty or so over the moor both rough and
    rocky and covered in four inches of mud and cow [censored].

    By the time I came through the gate at the top of the wood my lungs felt
    as if they could not give any more, but there's nothing to pace
    yourself against - you can't see any other competitor to compare your
    performance against - so you just have to keep on. And the horribly
    slimy disgusting surface through the next two hairpins encourages you
    not to stop - you _really_ would not want to put a foot down in that
    stuff. My helmet felt horribly hot and tight on my head

    Just as I was pulling out of the second hairpin, and out of the worst
    part of the climb, a medium large raptor - a little smaller than a
    buzzard, and with narrower wings almost entirely white on the
    underside, but with black wingtip feathers - got up from the hillside
    to one side of the track. I'm not certain but I think it may have been
    an osprey (despite the habitat being entirely wrong) and if so that's a
    first for me.

    And after that the track was a little easier, not so steep, the mud
    mostly not so deep, but I had no acceleration left. I made it up to
    fourth gear out of twenty seven, up over a brow, finish in sight, give
    it everything (which is embarrassingly not much), cross the line, gasp
    for breath for several minutes.

    Time: 19 minutes 46 seconds.
    Winning time, by a sixteen year old whose been competing in Scottish
    Championship mountain bike races all year, 19 minutes 0 seconds.
    Which means I'm second, only 46 seconds adrift... and that's not bad, I
    think, for thirty three years older. But the gloss comes off it a bit
    in that there were only three finishers, and the third had made a wrong
    turn and lost time.

    Still, I feel pleased with myself.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

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  2. Simon Brooke said:

    .................................... and that's not bad, I
    think, for thirty three years older.

    Not bad at all. Well done. I hope the winner feels suitably embarrassed
    beating a person 33 years his senior by only 46 seconds. He should have
    whipped your ass. I would expect he'd buy you a pint to say well done if
    he was old enough !!

  3. Simon Brooke said:

    Did my first official hillclimb today. Off road, on rough track, and
    actually one of my favourite training climbs so I knew it pretty well.
    Only 200 metres vertically...

    It's a bloody lonely discipline, hill climb! I started last, and I only
    saw one other cyclist all the way up. Worse, I think, than time
    trialling in that sense. And hard, hard, hard because the hill just
    never lets up. I took the Mantra because it climbs well, but it was
    having a problem staying in second gear so I was having to shift up to
    third every time the hill eased a bit and then down again to first for
    the next steepening. And the track deteriorates as the climb goes on,
    the first eighty or so good, the next sixty or so through the wood very
    rough and rocky, and the final forty or so over the moor both rough and
    rocky and covered in four inches of mud and cow [censored].

    By the time I came through the gate at the top of the wood my lungs felt
    as if they could not give any more, but there's nothing to pace
    yourself against - you can't see any other competitor to compare your
    performance against - so you just have to keep on. And the horribly
    slimy disgusting surface through the next two hairpins encourages you
    not to stop - you _really_ would not want to put a foot down in that
    stuff. My helmet felt horribly hot and tight on my head

    Just as I was pulling out of the second hairpin, and out of the worst
    part of the climb, a medium large raptor - a little smaller than a
    buzzard, and with narrower wings almost entirely white on the
    underside, but with black wingtip feathers - got up from the hillside
    to one side of the track. I'm not certain but I think it may have been
    an osprey (despite the habitat being entirely wrong) and if so that's a
    first for me.

    And after that the track was a little easier, not so steep, the mud
    mostly not so deep, but I had no acceleration left. I made it up to
    fourth gear out of twenty seven, up over a brow, finish in sight, give
    it everything (which is embarrassingly not much), cross the line, gasp
    for breath for several minutes.

    Time: 19 minutes 46 seconds.
    Winning time, by a sixteen year old whose been competing in Scottish
    Championship mountain bike races all year, 19 minutes 0 seconds.
    Which means I'm second, only 46 seconds adrift... and that's not bad, I
    think, for thirty three years older. But the gloss comes off it a bit
    in that there were only three finishers, and the third had made a wrong
    turn and lost time.

    Still, I feel pleased with myself.


    Bit late in the season, isn't it? I thought most of them were at the
    end of September!

  4. Simon Brooke said:

    Just as I was pulling out of the second hairpin, and out of the worst
    part of the climb, a medium large raptor - a little smaller than a
    buzzard, and with narrower wings almost entirely white on the
    underside, but with black wingtip feathers - got up from the hillside
    to one side of the track. I'm not certain but I think it may have been
    an osprey (despite the habitat being entirely wrong) and if so that's a
    first for me.

    An osprey at this tme of year? I think not, they're all snug and warm
    in Africa now. More likely to have been a hen harrier or goshawk.
    --
    Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

  5. in message <[email hidden]>, Phil Cook

    (') said:
    Simon Brooke said:

    Just as I was pulling out of the second hairpin, and out of the worst
    part of the climb, a medium large raptor - a little smaller than a
    buzzard, and with narrower wings almost entirely white on the
    underside, but with black wingtip feathers - got up from the hillside
    to one side of the track. I'm not certain but I think it may have been
    an osprey (despite the habitat being entirely wrong) and if so that's
    a first for me.

    An osprey at this tme of year? I think not, they're all snug and warm
    in Africa now. More likely to have been a hen harrier or goshawk.

    Not a Goshawk, I think, the underside of this bird was largely white
    with the wings very noticeably white, with a black stripe-like mark and
    black primaries. The pictures of Goshawks I can find are noticably
    barred on the underside and seem to have pointed wingtips. This bird
    has splayed primaries like a buzzard or eagle, but the wings noticeably
    longer and narrower than either. I didn't get a good view of the back
    (I was racing at the time) but I think it was a dark greyish brown.

    Don't know about a hen harrier. Is there a good picture somewhere on the
    Web?

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    X-no-archive: No, I'm not *that* naive.

  6. in message <[email hidden]>, MSeries

    (') said:
    Simon Brooke said:

    .................................... and that's not bad, I
    think, for thirty three years older.

    Not bad at all. Well done. I hope the winner feels suitably
    embarrassed beating a person 33 years his senior by only 46 seconds.
    He should have whipped your ass. I would expect he'd buy you a pint to
    say well done if he was old enough !!

    I was pleased. Mind you, it may be because the tougher people weren't
    out today. Still, the lad who beat me has a reputation for being very
    fast up hills so three quarters of a minute in nineteen minutes does
    not feel bad.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    :: Wisdom is better than weapons of war ::
    :: Ecclesiastes 9:18 ::

  7. Simon Brooke said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, Phil Cook

    (') said:
    Simon Brooke said:

    Just as I was pulling out of the second hairpin, and out of the worst
    part of the climb, a medium large raptor - a little smaller than a
    buzzard, and with narrower wings almost entirely white on the
    underside, but with black wingtip feathers - got up from the hillside
    to one side of the track. I'm not certain but I think it may have been
    an osprey (despite the habitat being entirely wrong) and if so that's
    a first for me.

    An osprey at this tme of year? I think not, they're all snug and warm
    in Africa now. More likely to have been a hen harrier or goshawk.

    Not a Goshawk, I think, the underside of this bird was largely white
    with the wings very noticeably white, with a black stripe-like mark and
    black primaries. The pictures of Goshawks I can find are noticably
    barred on the underside and seem to have pointed wingtips. This bird
    has splayed primaries like a buzzard or eagle, but the wings noticeably
    longer and narrower than either. I didn't get a good view of the back
    (I was racing at the time) but I think it was a dark greyish brown.

    Don't know about a hen harrier. Is there a good picture somewhere on the
    Web?

    Try <URL:http://www.homepages.mcb.net/wormwell/HH1.htm> - looks to me
    as though it might fit the bill.

    Apparently they have a wingspan of about 100cm - 120cm dependant on sex.

    --
    Andy Leighton => [email hidden]
    "The Lord is my shepherd, but we still lost the sheep dog trials"
    - Robert Rankin, _They Came And Ate Us_

  8. Simon Brooke said:

    I was pleased. Mind you, it may be because the tougher people weren't
    out today.

    That doesn't detract from your achievement, you can only beat the other
    competitors. Perhaps they you won the pyscological battle and scared
    them off.

  9. On 5/12/04 1:29 pm, in article
    [email hidden], "Simon Brooke"

    Quoted message said:

    By the time I came through the gate at the top of the wood my lungs felt
    as if they could not give any more, but there's nothing to pace
    yourself against - you can't see any other competitor to compare your
    performance against - so you just have to keep on.

    This is why you need a HRM ;-) it gives you personalised pacing..

    ...d

  10. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Simon Brooke said:

    never lets up. I took the Mantra because it climbs well, but it was
    having a problem staying in second gear so I was having to shift up to
    third every time the hill eased a bit and then down again to first for
    the next steepening.

    Heh. Reminds me of when I hired a bike in Oz, and did 19Km of unrelenting
    uphill at a low gradient (but in hotter temperatures than I had ever
    experienced before). The gradient needed a mid-range gear, but the middle
    chainring was unusable, so I had to drop down and it became like 19Km steep.

    Quoted message said:

    stuff. My helmet felt horribly hot and tight on my head

    Fortunately this was before Oz discovered concentrated-heatstroke.

    Quoted message said:

    Time: 19 minutes 46 seconds.
    Winning time, by a sixteen year old whose been competing in Scottish
    Championship mountain bike races all year, 19 minutes 0 seconds.
    Which means I'm second, only 46 seconds adrift... and that's not bad, I
    think, for thirty three years older. But the gloss comes off it a bit

    Heh, congrats! I think I'd have taken a wrong turn on that, if only
    to manufacture a feeble excuse for taking twice as long as you ....

    --
    Nick Kew

  11. Simon Brooke vaguely muttered something like ...

    Quoted message said:

    Time: 19 minutes 46 seconds.
    Winning time, by a sixteen year old whose been competing in Scottish
    Championship mountain bike races all year, 19 minutes 0 seconds.
    Which means I'm second, only 46 seconds adrift... and that's not bad, I
    think, for thirty three years older.

    Nice one, congratulations.

    Quoted message said:

    But the gloss comes off it a bit
    in that there were only three finishers, and the third had made a wrong
    turn and lost time.

    Hey, you competed, you tried, and you did a creditable time. If more people
    got off their arses and did something there'd be a shed load less whinging
    going on. Enjoy your good fortune .. Glossy or not .. 😉

    --
    Paul ...
    http://www.4x4prejudice.org/index.php
    "A [censored] is a [censored], no matter what mode of transport they're using."
    (8(|) Homer Rules !!!

  12. http://www.ardice.com/Games/Video_Games/Adventure/Text_Adventures/Design_and_Development/Authoring_Systems/ADRIFT/

  13. in message <[email hidden]>, Andy Leighton

    (') said:
    Simon Brooke said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, Phil Cook

    (') said:

    On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 13:29:53 +0000, Simon Brooke wrote:

    >Just as I was pulling out of the second hairpin, and out of the
    >worst part of the climb, a medium large raptor - a little smaller
    >than a buzzard, and with narrower wings almost entirely white on the
    >underside, but with black wingtip feathers - got up from the
    >hillside to one side of the track. I'm not certain but I think it
    >may have been an osprey (despite the habitat being entirely wrong)
    >and if so that's a first for me.

    An osprey at this tme of year? I think not, they're all snug and
    warm in Africa now. More likely to have been a hen harrier or
    goshawk.

    Not a Goshawk, I think, the underside of this bird was largely white
    with the wings very noticeably white, with a black stripe-like mark
    and black primaries. The pictures of Goshawks I can find are
    noticably barred on the underside and seem to have pointed wingtips.
    This bird has splayed primaries like a buzzard or eagle, but the
    wings noticeably longer and narrower than either. I didn't get a good
    view of the back (I was racing at the time) but I think it was a dark
    greyish brown.

    Don't know about a hen harrier. Is there a good picture somewhere on
    the Web?

    Try <URL:http://www.homepages.mcb.net/wormwell/HH1.htm> - looks to me
    as though it might fit the bill.

    Yup, that could be it.

    Quoted message said:

    Apparently they have a wingspan of about 100cm - 120cm dependant on
    sex.

    That would be about right.

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