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high cholesterol has a genetic basis?

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  1. Is there a pubmed paper that describes high cholesterol
    levels have a genetic basis?

    I've heard that even though some people eat right
    and exercise regularly, they still have high levels of
    cholesterol. I'm looking to determine the validity
    of this claim.

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    conrad

  2. x-no-archive: yes

    conrad said:

    Is there a pubmed paper that describes high cholesterol
    levels have a genetic basis?

    I've heard that even though some people eat right
    and exercise regularly, they still have high levels of
    cholesterol. I'm looking to determine the validity
    of this claim.

    Nah. Most folks are eating what they're told is right, but it's all wrong.

    The tendency toward dyslipidemia may be inherited, but that doesn't mean
    that the right diet won't fix it for most folks.

    Susan

  3. Well, then you would have do a proper experiment, controlling for all
    potentially relevant factors, which won't be easy or cheap. On the
    other hand, you can just do some research and you'll see that only
    oxidized LDL is going to cause problems, not cholesterol. It's
    explained on my free site:

    http://groups.msn.com/TheScientificDebateForum-

  4. conrad said:

    I've heard that even though some people eat right
    and exercise regularly, they still have high levels of
    cholesterol. I'm looking to determine the validity
    of this claim.

    If you search for "familial hypercholesterolaemia" you'll find some.
    The two broad defects are insufficient cell surface LDL receptors or
    a defect in the apolipoprotein which binds to the LDL receptor. Either
    way the LDL stays in the blood so levels increase over time. Rats with
    an apolipoprotein disorder they will get high blood cholesterol even
    on a fat-free diet.

    MattLB

  5. MattLB said:
    conrad said:

    I've heard that even though some people eat right
    and exercise regularly, they still have high levels of
    cholesterol. I'm looking to determine the validity
    of this claim.

    If you search for "familial hypercholesterolaemia" you'll find some.
    The two broad defects are insufficient cell surface LDL receptors or
    a defect in the apolipoprotein which binds to the LDL receptor. Either
    way the LDL stays in the blood so levels increase over time. Rats with
    an apolipoprotein disorder they will get high blood cholesterol even
    on a fat-free diet.

    MattLB

    There is also familial combined hyperlipidemia and familial
    hypertriglyceridemia. There are also people who have inherited a
    mutation that causes very low HDL.

    There are people with heterozygous familial hypercholesterolemia
    (heFH) who do not have an LDL receptor or ApoB mutation. They are
    still discovering other mutations that cause the heFH phenotype
    (elevated LDL from birth, usually in the 200s). HeFH cannot be
    controlled with diet and exercise only.

    Marilyn

    Marilyn

  6. MarilynMann said:
    MattLB said:

    On Jun 18, 2:12 am, conrad <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I've heard that even though some people eat right
    and exercise regularly, they still have high levels of
    cholesterol. I'm looking to determine the validity
    of this claim.

    Quoted message said:

    If you search for "familial hypercholesterolaemia" you'll find some.
    The two broad defects are insufficient cell surface LDL receptors or
    a defect in the apolipoprotein which binds to the LDL receptor. Either
    way the LDL stays in the blood so levels increase over time. Rats with
    an apolipoprotein disorder they will get high blood cholesterol even
    on a fat-free diet.

    Quoted message said:

    MattLB

    There is also familial combined hyperlipidemia and familial
    hypertriglyceridemia. There are also people who have inherited a
    mutation that causes very low HDL.

    There are people with heterozygous familial hypercholesterolemia
    (heFH) who do not have an LDL receptor or ApoB mutation. They are
    still discovering other mutations that cause the heFH phenotype
    (elevated LDL from birth, usually in the 200s). HeFH cannot be
    controlled with diet and exercise only.

    Marilyn

    Marilyn

    Then there is the simple common sense that families tend to share food
    and diet and a bad diet throughout many generations will cause similar
    physical problems to all concerned.

    Or consider that we genetically evolved with little or no refined
    carbs in the diet. We are genetically wired to not thrive on high
    refined-carb diets.

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