Hero or villain?

On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 17:43:06 +0000, roger burbled:

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Below is a quote from a Xmas present that I thought might interest some of
our readers.

"For his earliest walks he had no mountain boots, just town shoes, and no
anorak. He usually wore a lightweight macintosh and his flat cap. He
didn't carry a compass and had no idea how to use one."

would that be AW?

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roger said:

Below is a quote from a Xmas present that I thought might interest some
of our readers.

"For his earliest walks he had no mountain boots, just town shoes, and
no anorak. He usually wore a lightweight macintosh and his flat cap. He
didn't carry a compass and had no idea how to use one."

Sounds like Wainwright to me. He used to sleep under his mac when
overnighting on the fells IIRC.

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Below is a quote from a Xmas present that I thought might interest some of
our readers.

"For his earliest walks he had no mountain boots, just town shoes, and no
anorak. He usually wore a lightweight macintosh and his flat cap. He
didn't carry a compass and had no idea how to use one."

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would that be AW?

Who else could it be.

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Roger Chapman
Exiled in Essex

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Below is a quote from a Xmas present that I thought might interest some of
our readers.

"For his earliest walks he had no mountain boots, just town shoes, and no
anorak. He usually wore a lightweight macintosh and his flat cap. He
didn't carry a compass and had no idea how to use one."

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would that be AW?

Who else could it be.

On his walk in the North of Britain, and one of his soles came off,
ISTR.
Can you remember the book title?

A Pennine Adventure, I think.
--
Gordon Harris

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> "For his earliest walks he had no mountain boots, just town
> shoes, and no
> anorak. He usually wore a lightweight macintosh and his flat cap. He
> didn't carry a compass and had no idea how to use one."

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would that be AW?

Who else could it be.

On his walk in the North of Britain, and one of his soles came off,
ISTR.
Can you remember the book title?

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A Pennine Adventure, I think.

I don't know. I haven't read that. Or at least not so recently that I
can remember what is in it and not being at home at present I cannot
consult my bookcase where it might be lurking.

Might be some time before I return home as here in the effete Southeast
we are currently snowed in.

--
Roger Chapman
Exiled in Essex

roger <[email hidden]> wrote

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On his walk in the North of Britain, and one of his soles came off,
ISTR.
Can you remember the book title?

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A Pennine Adventure, I think.

I don't know. I haven't read that. Or at least not so recently that I
can remember what is in it and not being at home at present I cannot
consult my bookcase where it might be lurking.

Might be some time before I return home as here in the effete Southeast
we are currently snowed in.

I dug out an old copy of it in the local library, and found it an
interesting read, but it also revealed a lot about his character,
including, ISTR, a rather cavalier attitude to women. :-)
--
Gordon Harris

roger schrieb:

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"For his earliest walks he had no mountain boots, just town shoes, and
no anorak. He usually wore a lightweight macintosh and his flat cap. He
didn't carry a compass and had no idea how to use one."

Definitely AW

Walter
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Here's another first timer on a mountain.

It was a fine April day, with plenty of snow on the tops. When I stood by
the road and looked up at my first mountain, the summitseemed alarmingly
craggy and blinding white against blue sky. How I should ever get up I could
not imagine. I picked out a route by the line of a burn, which vanished
towards a huge corrie under the summit rocks. And then what? I felt a
nervous hesitation about my fate in these upper regions. Had I been entering
the sanctuary of Nanda Devi I could have felt no more of the sheer thrill of
adventure than I did when I stepped off that road onto the bare hill-side.

<snip>

And at once I proceeded to do all those wicked things so rightly denounced
by grey-bearded gentlemen sitting at office desks in remote cities. I
climbed steep snow-slopes by myself. Without an ice-axe or nailed boots,
without map, compass, or warm and windproof clothing, and, what is worth,
without a companion, I kicked steps up hard snow going quite fast and gaily,
until near the top I stopped and looked down.......

Who was that one?

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Here's another first timer on a mountain.

It was a fine April day, with plenty of snow on the tops. When I stood by
the road and looked up at my first mountain, the summitseemed alarmingly
craggy and blinding white against blue sky. How I should ever get up I could
not imagine. I picked out a route by the line of a burn, which vanished
towards a huge corrie under the summit rocks. And then what? I felt a
nervous hesitation about my fate in these upper regions. Had I been entering
the sanctuary of Nanda Devi I could have felt no more of the sheer thrill of
adventure than I did when I stepped off that road onto the bare hill-side.

<snip>

And at once I proceeded to do all those wicked things so rightly denounced
by grey-bearded gentlemen sitting at office desks in remote cities. I
climbed steep snow-slopes by myself. Without an ice-axe or nailed boots,
without map, compass, or warm and windproof clothing, and, what is worth,
without a companion, I kicked steps up hard snow going quite fast and gaily,
until near the top I stopped and looked down.......

Who was that one?

PS?
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Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

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from "W. D. Grey" <[email hidden]> contains these words:

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Here's another first timer on a mountain.

It was a fine April day, with plenty of snow on the tops. When I stood by
the road and looked up at my first mountain, the summit seemed alarmingly
craggy and blinding white against blue sky. How I should ever get up
I could
not imagine. I picked out a route by the line of a burn, which vanished
towards a huge corrie under the summit rocks. And then what? I felt a
nervous hesitation about my fate in these upper regions. Had I been
entering
the sanctuary of Nanda Devi I could have felt no more of the sheer
thrill of
adventure than I did when I stepped off that road onto the bare hill-side.

<snip>

And at once I proceeded to do all those wicked things so rightly denounced
by grey-bearded gentlemen sitting at office desks in remote cities. I
climbed steep snow-slopes by myself. Without an ice-axe or nailed boots,
without map, compass, or warm and windproof clothing, and, what is worth,
without a companion, I kicked steps up hard snow going quite fast and
gaily,
until near the top I stopped and looked down.......

Murray? (I never did read his masterpiece).

Although the extract actually reminded me more of Tilman or Shipton but
perhaps I was led astray by the reference to Nanda Devi. If Nanda Devi
was known to a novice then it almost has to be someone from a younger
generation which, if my memory is correct, would rule out Murray as
well.

--
Roger Chapman
Exiled in Essex

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Here's another first timer on a mountain.

It was a fine April day, with plenty of snow on the tops. When I stood

by

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the road and looked up at my first mountain, the summit seemed

alarmingly

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craggy and blinding white against blue sky. How I should ever get up
I could
not imagine. I picked out a route by the line of a burn, which vanished
towards a huge corrie under the summit rocks. And then what? I felt a
nervous hesitation about my fate in these upper regions. Had I been
entering
the sanctuary of Nanda Devi I could have felt no more of the sheer
thrill of
adventure than I did when I stepped off that road onto the bare

hill-side.

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<snip>

And at once I proceeded to do all those wicked things so rightly

denounced

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Quoted message said:

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by grey-bearded gentlemen sitting at office desks in remote cities. I
climbed steep snow-slopes by myself. Without an ice-axe or nailed

boots,

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without map, compass, or warm and windproof clothing, and, what is

worse,

Quoted message said:

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without a companion, I kicked steps up hard snow going quite fast and
gaily,
until near the top I stopped and looked down.......

Murray? (I never did read his masterpiece).

Although the extract actually reminded me more of Tilman or Shipton but
perhaps I was led astray by the reference to Nanda Devi. If Nanda Devi
was known to a novice then it almost has to be someone from a younger
generation which, if my memory is correct, would rule out Murray as
well.

--
Roger Chapman
Exiled in Essex

Right first time Roger, W H Murray from Undiscovered Scotland. The book was
written much later, when he was a PoW, and by that time knew of the wider
mountaineering world.
His first venture onto the hills was on his own, in ordinary street clothes
on the Cobbler in Winter. Makes you wonder how many other people in that era
tried the same sort of thing and didn't make it back down.

--
Duncan Gray

The Mountaineering Council of Scotland
www.mountaineering-scotland.org.uk

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from "W. D. Grey" <[email hidden]> contains these words:

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Here's another first timer on a mountain.

It was a fine April day, with plenty of snow on the tops. When I stood by
the road and looked up at my first mountain, the summit seemed alarmingly
craggy and blinding white against blue sky. How I should ever get up
I could
not imagine. I picked out a route by the line of a burn, which vanished
towards a huge corrie under the summit rocks. And then what? I felt a
nervous hesitation about my fate in these upper regions. Had I been
entering
the sanctuary of Nanda Devi I could have felt no more of the sheer
thrill of
adventure than I did when I stepped off that road onto the bare hill-side.

<snip>

And at once I proceeded to do all those wicked things so rightly denounced
by grey-bearded gentlemen sitting at office desks in remote cities. I
climbed steep snow-slopes by myself. Without an ice-axe or nailed boots,
without map, compass, or warm and windproof clothing, and, what is worth,
without a companion, I kicked steps up hard snow going quite fast and
gaily,
until near the top I stopped and looked down.......

Murray? (I never did read his masterpiece).

Although the extract actually reminded me more of Tilman or Shipton but
perhaps I was led astray by the reference to Nanda Devi. If Nanda Devi
was known to a novice then it almost has to be someone from a younger
generation which, if my memory is correct, would rule out Murray as
well.

Compliments of the season Roger and BTW I don't think I wrote any of the
above :-)
--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

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from "W. D. Grey" <[email hidden]> contains these words:

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>Here's another first timer on a mountain.
>
>
>It was a fine April day, with plenty of snow on the tops. When I stood

by

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>the road and looked up at my first mountain, the summit seemed

alarmingly

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>craggy and blinding white against blue sky. How I should ever get up
>I could
>not imagine. I picked out a route by the line of a burn, which vanished
>towards a huge corrie under the summit rocks. And then what? I felt a
>nervous hesitation about my fate in these upper regions. Had I been
>entering
>the sanctuary of Nanda Devi I could have felt no more of the sheer
>thrill of
>adventure than I did when I stepped off that road onto the bare

hill-side.

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>
><snip>
>
>And at once I proceeded to do all those wicked things so rightly

denounced

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>by grey-bearded gentlemen sitting at office desks in remote cities. I
>climbed steep snow-slopes by myself. Without an ice-axe or nailed

boots,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>without map, compass, or warm and windproof clothing, and, what is

worse,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>without a companion, I kicked steps up hard snow going quite fast and
>gaily,
>until near the top I stopped and looked down.......

Murray? (I never did read his masterpiece).

Although the extract actually reminded me more of Tilman or Shipton but
perhaps I was led astray by the reference to Nanda Devi. If Nanda Devi
was known to a novice then it almost has to be someone from a younger
generation which, if my memory is correct, would rule out Murray as
well.

--
Roger Chapman
Exiled in Essex

Gents.
I never wrote this stuff. If you refer to my posting, all I wrote was -
PS - at the end of a long quote.

tara
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Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

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Quoted message said:

Below is a quote from a Xmas present that I thought might interest some
of our readers.

"For his earliest walks he had no mountain boots, just town shoes, and
no anorak. He usually wore a lightweight macintosh and his flat cap. He
didn't carry a compass and had no idea how to use one."

Loud cheers here. My navigation skills are pretty nearly nonexistent
(I've only once been on my own in unfamiliar territory, and even that
would have been fine had it not been pitch black) and when I started
walking (1970s) I wore the only 'outdoor' things I had - trainers and
anorak. Nothing waterproof about either of those... So, in answer to
the question in the subject header - hero. Definitely.

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where common sense dictates.

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Might be some time before I return home as here in the effete Southeast
we are currently snowed in.

Good gracious! Slight flurry driving back through mid Wales yesterday
evening (roof of car had discrete flakes on when we emerged from the
cafe wherein we finally thawed out), but nowt else. Plenty of frost in
the morning though. Decidedly nippy it were.
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where common sense dictates.

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And at once I proceeded to do all those wicked things so rightly denounced
by grey-bearded gentlemen sitting at office desks in remote cities. I
climbed steep snow-slopes by myself. Without an ice-axe or nailed boots,
without map, compass, or warm and windproof clothing, and, what is worth,
without a companion, I kicked steps up hard snow going quite fast and gaily,
until near the top I stopped and looked down.......

Who was that one?

Hillary?
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Might be some time before I return home as here in the effete Southeast
we are currently snowed in.

Good gracious! Slight flurry driving back through mid Wales yesterday
evening (roof of car had discrete flakes on when we emerged from the
cafe wherein we finally thawed out), but nowt else. Plenty of frost in
the morning though. Decidedly nippy it were.

The snow has mainly been in the East with AFAICT Kent getting by far the
worst of it. According to the radio Lincolnshire was getting it too but
the bit of the A1 running though that county wasn't any worse than any
of the other main roads I encountered during my drive back North today.
If I had taken any notice of the severe weather warnings that were out I
would still be back in Essex but there my main problem was how to get
down a short length of very steep drive and then along some 100 yards of
gentler gradient before I reached the gritted road.

At this end I had to make a diversion as the road up to my house (1 in 5
in places) had not been gritted but the road down to it was. As I
approached from above I was waved down by a pedestrian coming up the
hill carrying a bucket.He had driven past where the gritter had turned
off and had skidded down the hill and into the bank on a bend further
down. I was able to direct him to the nearby grit bin.

--
Roger Chapman so far this year 62 summits
New - 28 (Marilyns 14, Nuttalls 5, Outlying Fells 10)
Repeats - 34 (Marilyns 16, Nuttalls 24, Wainwrights 12, Outlying Fells 0)

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Gents.
I never wrote this stuff. If you refer to my posting, all I wrote was -
PS - at the end of a long quote.

Sorry Bill but if you had written more perhaps I would have noticed that
I was replying to your post rather than Duncans. :-)

--
Roger Chapman so far this year 62 summits
New - 28 (Marilyns 14, Nuttalls 5, Outlying Fells 10)
Repeats - 34 (Marilyns 16, Nuttalls 24, Wainwrights 12, Outlying Fells 0)

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Sorry Bill but if you had written more perhaps I would have noticed that
I was replying to your post rather than Duncans. :-)

A man of few but significant words. :-)
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Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk