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  1. http://neuro-www.mgh.harvard.edu/forum_2/ALSF/hepBvaccines.html

    hep B vaccines

    This response submitted by posted in other forum on 8/11/99.
    Email Address:
    This is the statement I sent to every member of the Government Reform
    Committee who will oversee the hepatitis B vaccine hearings. You have
    permission to use any part of it and my name as a District Health Services
    Coordinator (Registered Professional Nurse) who is very concerned with what
    I am witnessing in the children coming into our schools. This statement is
    also supported by the Missouri Central District School Nurse Association. I
    hope this may help in some small way. Thank you so very much for all you do.
    All the nurses in my district will be praying for you on Tuesday. Thank you
    for having the courage to fight for the health of our children.
    Subject: Hepatitis B Vaccine: School Nurse Perspective
    This is a school nursing perspective for the congressional hearings on May 18
    regarding the safety of the hepatitis B vaccine that is being mandated for
    newborns and now older children in America. Our Central District School
    Nurse Association asks you to please consider the following information and
    submit it into the congressional testimony. We continually see more and more
    damaged children entering our schools, and are very concerned that a major
    portion of that damage is due to the hepatitis B vaccine's assault on the
    newborn neurological and immune system.
    I am a registered professional nurse and the district health services
    coordinator for a large school district. I am writing on behalf of all the
    school nurses in our district. We have very grave concerns about the
    hepatitis B vaccine. For the past three or four years our school districts
    have noted a significant increase in the number of children entering school
    with developmental disorders, learning disabilities, attention deficit
    disorders and/or serious chronic illness such as diabetes, asthma and seizure
    disorders. Each of the past four years has been worse than the year before.
    There is only one common thread we can identify in all these children: they
    are the children who received the first trial hepatitis B injections as
    newborns in the early 1990s. As the hepatitis B compliance rate in newborns
    has gone up in our community, so has the percentage of damaged children. This
    is very alarming.
    Because of having so many damaged children we have tried to find the long
    term clinical trials that ruled this vaccine "safe and effective". We
    discovered through an exhaustive Medline search that the FDA based its
    decision to approve hepatitis B vaccine for administration in the first hours
    of a newborn baby's life upon clinical trials and upon post-marketing
    surveillance studies in which patients and their doctors were asked to report
    any adverse effects they noticed within 4-5 days after each injection [4 days
    for SmithKline and 5 days for Merck]. The problems being reported in
    increasing numbers as occurring after hepatitis B vaccination appear to be
    autoimmune and neurological in origin. Such problems take weeks to months to
    produce noticeable symptoms, and cannot be spotted in a 4-5 day observation
    period. These are the only clinical studies that have been done by Merck or
    SmithKline. There is not one long-term study that we could find. The CDC and
    FDA have no idea what the long term effects will be on the newly developing
    neurological and immune systems of the infants who are injected with this
    vaccine. They seem to only be concerned with denying the connection between
    these damaged children and the hepatitis B shot they received within a few
    hours of birth. The CDC even admits the lack of study and states they do not
    even know how long the vaccine will be effective. We found this amazing since
    the vaccine was developed for a population at risk for hepatitis B: IV drug
    users, high risk medical professionals and those who are involved in high
    risk sexual practices.
    In 1950 (before mass immunizations began), the USA had the third lowest
    infant mortality rate in the world. By 1986, the USA dropped to 17th place.
    In 1995 the USA dropped to 23rd and now the USA has dropped to the appalling
    position of 24th in the health of its children (but the USA is now first in
    vaccine compliance through government mandates). Does this make you nervous
    too?
    The elementary grades are overwhelmed with children who have symptoms of
    neurological and/or immune system damage: epilepsy, seizure disorders,
    various kinds of palsies, autism, mental retardation, learning disabilities,
    juvenile-onset diabetes, asthma, vision / hearing loss, and a multitude of
    new conduct/behavior disorders. We have come to believe the hepatitis B
    vaccine is an assault on a newborns developing neurological and immune
    system. Vaccines are supposed to be making us healthier, however, in twenty
    five years of nursing I have never seen so many damaged, sick kids. Something
    very, very wrong is happening to our children. The census of ill children
    seen in our health rooms each day has increased by 300% in only four years.
    It had remained relatively constant in all the years before.
    In our last regional school nurse meeting we discussed whether the
    combination of so many viruses at one time (hepatitis B vaccine at the same
    time of the DPT, OPV and MMR) is causing the infants immune system to be
    overwhelmed and unable to mount a sufficient defense response. We are
    advocating clinical studies to determine: Is the combination of all these
    viruses at one time an assault on an infant's immune and neurological system
    that increases the chances for adverse reaction AND what are the long-term
    neurological and immune system responses to these vaccines. We are all
    continuing to research this issue and will be happy to share the many
    resources we have found with you. I hope you will do the same as you open up
    this issue.
    We (nurses, principals and teachers) have talked many times about the
    possible cause(s) of the continuing increase in pervasive developmental
    disorders (PDD), such as autism. From the literature we have found, we should
    expect a rate for PDD of about 1 in 10,000. In our community the rate in
    Kindergarten, 1st and 2nd grade is more like 1 in 150. The teaching staff is
    overwhelmed.
    As school nurses, we have had many parents calling and asking how they can
    exempt their children from the hepatitis B vaccination (HPB). Many of them
    have spent long hours in study and research perplexed over this issue. For
    the past six months we have been studying documents, books and research
    articles published by internationally respected doctors and scientists that
    cause us grave concern. You must understand that we began this study to
    reassure our parents and show them the truth about how safe vaccines are.
    Unfortunately, our sincere, honest, dedicated study has caused a complete
    reversal of our once strongly held beliefs. Instead of being able to reassure
    the parents, we have found ourselves being drawn deeper and deeper into this
    unbelievable controversy over vaccines that is raging among physicians,
    scientists, researchers, parents, and the government. We pray you will have
    the courage to shine the light on this controversy through these hepatitis B
    hearings.
    My daughter's own experience with the hepatitis B vaccine made me much more
    open-minded to the information we have been receiving from parents, teachers
    and other nurses in our community. I personally have had to research this on
    my own to determine if I have been enforcing a policy that is actually
    harming more children than it will ever help. I have spent countless hours
    reading books, vaccine-hearing testimony, research papers, medical journal
    articles and Internet web-sites from around the world. I did not come to my
    decision easily or lightly, I assure you. Twenty-five years of total belief
    in something does not shake that easily. I have repeated the well-rehearsed
    refrain "Be Wise & Immunize" thousands of times during those years and
    reassured countless parents that they were doing the right thing by
    vaccinating their precious children . . . even the ones who came to me with
    serious doubts and reservations. I will now have to live with that.
    We are all now faced with a moral dilemma: will we protect the "sacred cow of
    conventional vaccine philosophy" or will we stand up and speak out for the
    "health and well being of innocent children"? We choose children. We
    wonder, which will our government choose?
    Because the hepatitis B vaccine was developed for those at risk of disease,
    including IV drug users and sexually promiscuous individuals, efforts to
    require administration of the vaccine to most, if not all of the U.S.
    population is very controversial. The increasing number of adverse reaction
    reports connected with this vaccine exacerbates the controversy. The
    controversy stems to a great extent from our lack of understanding of the
    mechanisms of the immune response to the hepatitis B surface antigen and lack
    of long term follow-up of individuals who have received the vaccine. In a
    January 27, 1999 press release, the National Vaccine Information Center
    (NVIC) released figures which show that the number of hepatitis B
    vaccine-associated serious adverse event and death reports in American
    children under the age of 14 outnumber the reported cases of hepatitis B
    disease.
    During our research we discovered a copy of the grant proposal submitted
    recently to the National Institute of Health by Dr. B. S. Dunbar, who has
    worked in autoimmunity and vaccine development for over twenty years and was
    honored two years ago by the National Institute of Health. Dr. Dunbar is
    working with a team of veteran vaccine researchers from all over the world.
    Their grant is requested for the purpose of studying the hypothesis that:
    hepatitis B recombinant vaccine does cause adverse autoimmune reactions in
    genetically susceptible individuals. This study will also provide new
    insights into the predictability of determining adverse side effects of the
    hepatitis B vaccine in individuals at risk as related to their
    histocompatability subtypes. Their study of auto-immune diseases/symptoms
    caused by the hepatitis B vaccine include: lupus erythematosus, rheumatoid
    arthritis, vascular disorders, Guillain Barre syndrome, demyelinating
    disorders such as optic neuritis (blindness), Bell's palsy, demyelinating
    neuropathy (multiple developmental disorders), multiple sclerosis, diabetes
    mellitus and chronic fatigue syndrome to mention the most common.
    This group of internationally respected vaccine researchers headed up by Dr.
    Dunbar also point out that, "The studies (for the approval of HPB) were not
    designed to assess serious, rare adverse events; the total number of
    recipients were too small; and the follow-up was too short to detect rare or
    delayed, serious, adverse reactions." Finally they point out that "overall
    the number of examples of adverse neurologic outcomes following receipt of
    hepatitis B vaccine are of concern, particularly those resulting in
    demyelinating neurologic disease."
    They continue, "In view of these observations. . . it is medically crucial to
    evaluate the nature of the autoimmune reactions (i.e. risks) associated with
    the hepatitis B vaccine and to determine if individuals who will have these
    adverse reactions can be identified in advance of receiving the vaccine".
    There are critical questions that must be addressed to establish the
    risk/benefit of the current hepatitis B vaccines in the United States. These
    questions are particularly important in view of recent mandates to vaccinate
    all children including newborn infants."
    You may read this grant proposal at
    http://webpages.netlink.co.nz/~ias/dunbar.htm
    Many groups have called for a moratorium on hepatitis B vaccination until
    some of these questions can be answered adequately. The NVIC reported
    "Newborn babies are dying shortly after their shots and their deaths are
    being written off as sudden infant death syndrome. Parents should have the
    right to give their informed consent to vaccination and Congress should give
    emergency, priority funding to independent scientists, who can take an
    unbiased look at this vaccine, instead of leaving the search for truth in the
    hands of government officials who have already decided to force every child
    to get the vaccine". We agree completely. The NVIC can be contacted at
    http://www.909shot.com for further information.
    In Dr. Coulter's book, "Vaccination, Social Violence, and Criminality" the
    thesis is developed that the "sociopathic personality" which has emerged on a
    mass scale in recent decades; and which is responsible for a disproportionate
    amount of crime and violence;is causally linked to the childhood vaccination
    program. Vaccination frequently causes encephalitis and neuropathy that in
    turn leads to these post-encephalitic states and conditions. In his book, Dr.
    Coulter presents a time line of increase in developmental disability related
    to vaccine introduction that is indeed frightening. Dr. Coulter believes
    about 20% of our children are suffering from this neurological vaccine
    damage. We believe some of these vaccine experts should be on the
    President's Youth Violence task force.
    Our own school district's confidential health statistics show at least 20% of
    our children (K-3) have significant neurological damage and/or chronic
    illness. The last three years have shown an acceleration in the numbers of
    children who are entering our schools with these "developmental disorders".
    (Could these be the same infants who received the first trial doses of
    hepatitis B as only a few hour-old newborns?) As school nurses, working
    with these damaged children on a daily basis, we pray this is not true. If
    it is, the ramification to this generation of children is unthinkable!
    Should we not pause, call for a moratorium on these poorly tested, rapidly
    approved vaccines, and allow independent American physicians and researchers
    to study them before blindly injecting an experimental vaccine into an entire
    generation? (We have found the only ones declaring the vaccine's safety are
    the ones who are making millions of dollars from its sales, whose employment
    depends on it or the ones being funded by the drug companies vast number of
    grants and fundings. The independent researchers seem to be coming up with
    an entirely different report.) Vaccine producers have nothing to lose since
    our U.S. Congress has made them immune from responsibility or liability for
    injuries caused from their vaccines. The push is on for them to create more
    and more vaccines. There are huge amounts of money being made by these people
    who no longer worry about the consequences of their inadequate clinical
    trials. The United States government has had to pay out nearly a billion
    dollars in damages to families who can prove their children have been damaged
    or killed by vaccines, and there are thousands more cases pending. I just
    read that there are so many vaccine damage claims that Secretary Shalala
    changed the rules to try to limit adverse reaction claims. Could this be
    true? If so, shame on our government.
    We believe, as medical professionals, that we are doing a great disservice to
    our country by forcing government mandated vaccines on all children. Please
    research this and we pray you have the courage to speak out and tell the
    nation what you find.
    Sincerely,
    Patti White, RN
    School Health Services Coordinator
    Warrensburg R-VI School District
    Warrensburg Mo 64093 and
    Missouri Central District School Nurse Association
    [email hidden]
    --
    ***************************************************************
    Karin Schumacher
    Vaccine Information & Awareness (VIA)
    12799 La Tortola
    San Diego, CA 92129
    619-484-3197 (phone/voicemail)
    619-484-1187 (fax)
    [email hidden] (email)
    http://www.909shot.com (NVIC website)
    http://www.access1.net/via (VIA website)
    ***************************************************************
    We Must Have The Freedom To Choose & Respect Everyone's Choice

  2. Doug said:

    Please remove "all your clothes"

    Neat. Any relations to your job?

  3. <snip>

    Oh yes,

    My daughter just had her third Hep B vaccine just yesterday (along with all
    he other mandated vaccines including polio).

    Just thought I would let you know that your anti vaccination rubbish is
    being treated with all the attention it deserves.

    --
    "The emperor is naked!"
    "No he isn't, he's merely endorsing a clothing-optional lifestyle!"

    to email me
    Please remove "all your clothes"

    Doug

  4. Doug said:

    My daughter just had her third Hep B vaccine just yesterday (along with all
    he other mandated vaccines including polio).

    Just thought I would let you know that your anti vaccination rubbish is
    being treated with all the attention it deserves.

    I presume you are aware that every time vaccines are pumped into your
    daughter, she also gets a dose of thimerosal, a mercury-containing
    preservative manufacturered by George Bush's friends at Eli Lilly.
    Some people say that mercury is quite dangerous and that's it's no
    good for anyone, especially for children who are today receiving doses
    of mercury at a level not experienced by children at any previous time
    in Earth's history.

    One of the world's greatest experts on recovery from mercury in
    dentistry is Dr Hal Huggins (www.hugnet.com). He says he doesn't know
    how we manage to live with mercury -- we must be tough.

    Tough we may be, but these toxins are cumulative and extremely
    damaging.

  5. [email hidden] (rodney_victor) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Doug said:

    My daughter just had her third Hep B vaccine just yesterday (along with all
    he other mandated vaccines including polio).

    Just thought I would let you know that your anti vaccination rubbish is
    being treated with all the attention it deserves.

    I presume you are aware that every time vaccines are pumped into your
    daughter, she also gets a dose of thimerosal...

    Wrong, dingbat.

    Mark, MD

  6. --

    "rodney_victor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Doug said:

    My daughter just had her third Hep B vaccine just yesterday (along with


    all

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    he other mandated vaccines including polio).

    Just thought I would let you know that your anti vaccination rubbish is
    being treated with all the attention it deserves.

    I presume you are aware that every time vaccines are pumped into your
    daughter, she also gets a dose of thimerosal, a mercury-containing
    preservative manufacturered by George Bush's friends at Eli Lilly.
    Some people say that mercury is quite dangerous and that's it's no
    good for anyone, especially for children who are today receiving doses
    of mercury at a level not experienced by children at any previous time
    in Earth's history.

    One of the world's greatest experts on recovery from mercury in
    dentistry is Dr Hal Huggins (www.quackwatch.com). He says he doesn't know
    how we manage to live with mercury -- we must be tough.

    Tough we may be, but these toxins are cumulative and extremely
    damaging.

    Dr. Hal Huggins wants to make as many people as possible as frightened as
    possible of mercury. He makes a lot of money removing fillings from naive
    terrified logophobes.

    --Rich

  7. rodney_victor said:
    Doug said:

    My daughter just had her third Hep B vaccine just yesterday (along with all
    he other mandated vaccines including polio).

    Just thought I would let you know that your anti vaccination rubbish is
    being treated with all the attention it deserves.

    I presume you are aware that every time vaccines are pumped into your
    daughter, she also gets a dose of thimerosal, a mercury-containing
    preservative manufacturered by George Bush's friends at Eli Lilly.
    Some people say that mercury is quite dangerous and that's it's no
    good for anyone, especially for children who are today receiving doses
    of mercury at a level not experienced by children at any previous time
    in Earth's history.

    One of the world's greatest experts on recovery from mercury in
    dentistry is Dr Hal Huggins (www.hugnet.com). He says he doesn't know
    how we manage to live with mercury -- we must be tough.

    Tough we may be, but these toxins are cumulative and extremely
    damaging.

    Another anti-vac liar nitwit.

  8. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Hep-B Vaccine
    From: [email hidden] (Mark)
    Date: 8/15/2003 5:23 AM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    [email hidden] (rodney_victor) wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Doug said:

    My daughter just had her third Hep B vaccine just yesterday (along with


    all

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    he other mandated vaccines including polio).

    Just thought I would let you know that your anti vaccination rubbish is
    being treated with all the attention it deserves.

    I presume you are aware that every time vaccines are pumped into your
    daughter, she also gets a dose of thimerosal...

    Wrong, dingbat.

    Mark, MD

    Coming from a doctor, calling people dingbats.

    http://www.state.ma.us/dph/cdc/epii/imm/vac_safety/rubberthierosal.htm

    Jan

    The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil,
    but because of the people who don't do anything about it."
    Albert Einstein

  9. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Hep-B Vaccine
    From: [email hidden] (rodney_victor)
    Date: 8/14/2003 11:47 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Doug said:

    My daughter just had her third Hep B vaccine just yesterday (along with all
    he other mandated vaccines including polio).

    Just thought I would let you know that your anti vaccination rubbish is
    being treated with all the attention it deserves.

    I presume you are aware that every time vaccines are pumped into your
    daughter, she also gets a dose of thimerosal, a mercury-containing
    preservative manufacturered by George Bush's friends at Eli Lilly.
    Some people say that mercury is quite dangerous and that's it's no
    good for anyone, especially for children who are today receiving doses
    of mercury at a level not experienced by children at any previous time
    in Earth's history.

    One of the world's greatest experts on recovery from mercury in
    dentistry is Dr Hal Huggins (www.hugnet.com). He says he doesn't know
    how we manage to live with mercury -- we must be tough.

    Tough we may be, but these toxins are cumulative and extremely
    damaging.

    From one of the experts on thimerosal.

    http://www.testfoundation.org/thimerosal.htm

    Jan

    The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil,
    but because of the people who don't do anything about it."
    Albert Einstein

  10. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Hep-B Vaccine
    From: [email hidden] (Jan)
    Date: 8/15/2003 2:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time
    Message-id:

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.state.ma.us/dph/cdc/epii/imm/vac_safety/rubberthierosal.htm

    Jan

    If Janny had bothered to READ that list..and knew what Hep vaccine even
    is...hmmmm..she might have noticed that MOST preparations ARE indeed
    thimierosal free...

    thus parents CAN AND DO request what prep they want their kids to have

    is that so hard ...esp since it is listed ON the list Jan sited???

    yikes...will she EVER take the time to read the stuff she posts???

    nah..didn't think so

    hawki

  11. In article <[email hidden]>,

    rodney_victor said:
    Doug said:

    My daughter just had her third Hep B vaccine just yesterday (along with all
    he other mandated vaccines including polio).

    Just thought I would let you know that your anti vaccination rubbish is
    being treated with all the attention it deserves.

    I presume you are aware that every time vaccines are pumped into your
    daughter, she also gets a dose of thimerosal, a mercury-containing
    preservative manufacturered by George Bush's friends at Eli Lilly.

    Guess again, ignoramus. See this link and discover how thimerosal
    has been removed from childhood vaccines:

    http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/thi-table.htm

    Quoted message said:

    One of the world's greatest experts on recovery from mercury in
    dentistry is Dr Hal Huggins (www.hugnet.com). He says he doesn't know
    how we manage to live with mercury -- we must be tough.

    How does Hal Huggins live without his dental license, which, if I
    recall correctly, was revoked?

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
    were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  12. Good luck with all the ear infections and/or pneumonia coming.

    "Doug" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    <snip>

    Oh yes,

    My daughter just had her third Hep B vaccine just yesterday (along with


    all

    Quoted message said:

    he other mandated vaccines including polio).

    Just thought I would let you know that your anti vaccination rubbish is
    being treated with all the attention it deserves.

    --
    "The emperor is naked!"
    "No he isn't, he's merely endorsing a clothing-optional lifestyle!"

    to email me
    Please remove "all your clothes"

    Doug

  13. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Hep-B Vaccine
    From: [email hidden] (David Wright)
    Date: 8/15/2003 6:41 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    rodney_victor said:
    Doug said:

    My daughter just had her third Hep B vaccine just yesterday (along with


    all

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    he other mandated vaccines including polio).

    Just thought I would let you know that your anti vaccination rubbish is
    being treated with all the attention it deserves.

    I presume you are aware that every time vaccines are pumped into your
    daughter, she also gets a dose of thimerosal, a mercury-containing
    preservative manufacturered by George Bush's friends at Eli Lilly.

    Guess again, ignoramus. See this link and discover how thimerosal
    has been removed from childhood vaccines:

    http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/thi-table.htm

    Guess again, David:

    http://www.state.ma.us/dph/cdc/epii/imm/vac_safety/rubberthierosal.htm

    Brand Name Manufacturer Packaging Contains Dry Natural Rubber1,2
    Contains Thimerosal as a preservative

    Hep. B - pedi Recombivax Merck Syringe Yes Yes (25mcg/0.5ml)

    http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:fQHMyLlOeloJ:www.state.ma.us/dph/cdc/
    mso/hepb.pdf+Merck+hep+B+contains+thimerosal&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

    Recombivax® in single-dose vials as they do not contain thimerosal.

    ***However, children and adults should not receive Merck’s Recombivax® in
    pre-filled syringes as they do contain thimerosal***

    Awaiting your apology for calling names.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    One of the world's greatest experts on recovery from mercury in
    dentistry is Dr Hal Huggins (www.hugnet.com). He says he doesn't know
    how we manage to live with mercury -- we must be tough.

    Quoted message said:

    How does Hal Huggins live without his dental license, which, if I
    recall correctly, was revoked?

    Uh huh, another unreward hero, like Semmelweis.

    Since then, the state has seen the error of their ways.

    http://www.heall.com/healingnews/oct/dental_mercury.html

    Criminalze dental mercury amalgams
    COLORADO ACTION

    In 1997 Governor Roy Romer has signed into law a bill to increase access of the
    people of the state of Colorado to mercury-free dentistry.

    House Bill 97-1187 was introduced by Rep. Mark Paschall with the support of
    Sen. Muntzebaugh to support consumers' rights to choose safe, non toxic,
    effective alternatives to conventional dental procedures.

    This dental freedom law is the FIRST OF ITS KIND to be passed in the United
    States. It enables patients to choose mercury-free dentistry through dentists
    licensed in the state. It further assures that trained and licensed dentists
    can continue to practice mercury-free dentistry without fear of retribution
    from the Colorado Board of Dental Examiners.

    This is a total reversal of Colorado Administrative Law Judge Nancy Connick's
    decision last year which in essence forbade dentists from removing mercury
    based on the decision to remove toxic substances from the mouth. She also
    forbade patients from requesting removal of mercury based on its toxicity.

    This law, "House Bill 97-1187", Section 1., 12-35-118, Colorado Revised
    Statutes, 1991 Repl. Vol., is amended by the addition of a new subsection that
    says:

    1.7) (a) NOTHING IN THIS SECTION SHALL BE CONSTRUED TO DEPRIVE ANY DENTAL
    PATIENT OF THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE OR REPLACE ANY PROFESSIONALLY RECOGNIZED
    RESTORATIVE MATERIAL, NOR TO PERMIT DISCIPLINARY ACTION AGAINST A DENTIST
    SOLELY FOR REMOVING OR PLACING ANY PROFESSIONALLY RECOGNIZED RESTORATIVE
    MATERIAL.

    Citizens for Health applauds the passage of this bill and all of the
    individuals who worked to bring this important issue to the attention of the
    state legislature. "Passage of this law demonstrates that the public's
    increasing interest in expanded access to dental treatment options has been
    heard by our elected officials," stated Susan Haeger. "In the past,
    conventional and alternative options in dentistry have not been evaluated by
    the same standards of safety and efficacy prior to adopting them as accepted
    standard of care. I see this important law as opening up lines of communication
    to the consumer about risks and benefits of all treatments, and encouraging
    more dentists to consider adding safe alternatives to
    mercury amalgams into their practices."

    Haeger continues in her press release that, "The use of mercury amalgam in
    dental fillings is a controversial issue. Individuals and organizations
    concerned with the potential health hazard of mercury in dental amalgams have
    now brought the debate to the public. Although used for over 100 years in
    fillings, presumably safely, mercury is a highly toxic metal that is being
    investigated in numerous studies as a possible cause of ailments such as
    multiple sclerosis and Parkinson's disease. Recent research has shown a causal
    link between mercury amalgams and Alzheimer's disease. (Haley and Pendergrass,
    1995)."

    Susan Haeger is Executive Director of Citizens For Health which is an
    international grassroots advocacy organization committed to protecting and
    expanding consumer natural health choices. She may be reached in Boulder
    Colorado at (303) 417-0772 or by Fax at (303) 417-9378 or E-Mail:
    [email hidden]

    Jan

    The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil,
    but because of the people who don't do anything about it."
    Albert Einstein

  14. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Hep-B Vaccine
    From: [email hidden] (Jan)
    Date: 8/15/2003 8:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time

    Quoted message said:

    Hep. B - pedi Recombivax Merck Syringe Yes Yes (25mcg/0.5ml)

    Quoted message said:

    Recombivax® in single-dose vials as they do not contain thimerosal.

    Quoted message said:

    Awaiting your apology for calling names.

    and you know that they didn't use the Smith Kline formulation...how again??

    didn't think so..

    hawki

    Quoted message said:

    Uh huh, another unreward hero, like Semmelweis.

    is that a new word "unreward?"

    Quoted message said:

    Citizens for Health

    oh yeah...the Ralph Nader group? unbiased...oh yeah

    hawki

  15. "rodney_victor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Doug said:

    My daughter just had her third Hep B vaccine just yesterday (along with


    all

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    he other mandated vaccines including polio).

    Just thought I would let you know that your anti vaccination rubbish is
    being treated with all the attention it deserves.

    I presume you are aware that every time vaccines are pumped into your
    daughter, she also gets a dose of thimerosal, a mercury-containing
    preservative manufacturered by George Bush's friends at Eli Lilly.

    I presume you know that none of these vaccines actually contained thimerosal
    at all.

    Quoted message said:

    Some people say that mercury is quite dangerous and that's it's no
    good for anyone, especially for children who are today receiving doses
    of mercury at a level not experienced by children at any previous time
    in Earth's history.

    Your logic is flawed since your initial assumption is wrong.
    Yes mercury can be toxic.
    No, there is none in these vaccines, so even if thimerosal can cause a
    problem, it will not in this case.

    Quoted message said:


    One of the world's greatest experts on recovery from mercury in
    dentistry is Dr Hal Huggins (www.hugnet.com).

    And dentistry has what to do with vaccination, other than most dentists have
    nothing against it.

    Quoted message said:

    He says he doesn't know
    how we manage to live with mercury -- we must be tough.

    The dose makes the poison ya know. Low dose, low effect.
    Or, when we are talking about vaccination, no dose of mercury has no effect.

    Quoted message said:


    Tough we may be, but these toxins are cumulative and extremely
    damaging.

    But only if they somehow get into your body.

    --
    "The emperor is naked!"
    "No he isn't, he's merely endorsing a clothing-optional lifestyle!"

    to email me
    Please remove "all your clothes"

    Doug

  16. "Gymmie Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Good luck with all the ear infections and/or pneumonia coming.

    Why thank you.

    And good luck getting over your mental problems Gymmie.

    --
    "The emperor is naked!"
    "No he isn't, he's merely endorsing a clothing-optional lifestyle!"

    to email me
    Please remove "all your clothes"

    Doug

  17. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Hep-B Vaccine
    From: [email hidden] (David Wright)
    Date: 8/15/2003 6:41 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    rodney_victor said:

    "Doug" wrote:

    > My daughter just had her third Hep B vaccine just yesterday (along


    with

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    all

    Quoted message said:

    > he other mandated vaccines including polio).
    >
    > Just thought I would let you know that your anti vaccination rubbish


    is

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > being treated with all the attention it deserves.

    I presume you are aware that every time vaccines are pumped into your
    daughter, she also gets a dose of thimerosal, a mercury-containing
    preservative manufacturered by George Bush's friends at Eli Lilly.

    Guess again, ignoramus. See this link and discover how thimerosal
    has been removed from childhood vaccines:

    http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/thi-table.htm

    Guess again, David:

    http://www.state.ma.us/dph/cdc/epii/imm/vac_safety/rubberthierosal.htm

    Brand Name Manufacturer Packaging Contains Dry Natural Rubber1,2
    Contains Thimerosal as a preservative

    Hep. B - pedi Recombivax Merck Syringe Yes Yes (25mcg/0.5ml)

    http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:fQHMyLlOeloJ:www.state.ma.us/dph/cdc/
    mso/hepb.pdf+Merck+hep+B+contains+thimerosal&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

    Recombivax® in single-dose vials as they do not contain thimerosal.

    ***However, children and adults should not receive Merck's Recombivax® in
    pre-filled syringes as they do contain thimerosal***

    Awaiting your apology for calling names.

    ROFLMAO! After you, Jan -- after you.

  18. Mark Probert said:
    Jan said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Hep-B Vaccine
    From: [email hidden] (Mark)
    Date: 8/15/2003 5:23 AM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    [email hidden] (rodney_victor) wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    >"Doug" wrote:
    >
    >
    >>My daughter just had her third Hep B vaccine just yesterday (along with

    all

    >>he other mandated vaccines including polio).
    >>
    >>Just thought I would let you know that your anti vaccination rubbish is
    >>being treated with all the attention it deserves.
    >
    >I presume you are aware that every time vaccines are pumped into your
    >daughter, she also gets a dose of thimerosal...

    Wrong, dingbat.

    Mark, MD

    Coming from a doctor, calling people dingbats.

    http://www.state.ma.us/dph/cdc/epii/imm/vac_safety/rubberthierosal.htm

    Thank you, Jan for that reference. Obviously, you were as upset as Mark
    was when you read the lie that Rodney-Victor wrote when he stated "that
    every time vaccines are pumped into your daughter, she also gets a dose
    of thimerosal..."

    The URL you posted shows that HBV vaccine is readily available without
    Thimerosal. Thus, you have clearly shown, by your own words, and this
    excellent URL, that Rodney-Victor was a liar.

    Sad that.

    Quoted message said:

    (Please repost for Jan to show her what a nice guy I am!)

    Done.

    Happy to help. :-)

  19. Jan said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Hep-B Vaccine
    From: [email hidden] (Mark)
    Date: 8/15/2003 5:23 AM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    [email hidden] (rodney_victor) wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "Doug" wrote:

    >My daughter just had her third Hep B vaccine just yesterday (along with

    all

    Quoted message said:

    >he other mandated vaccines including polio).
    >
    >Just thought I would let you know that your anti vaccination rubbish is
    >being treated with all the attention it deserves.

    I presume you are aware that every time vaccines are pumped into your
    daughter, she also gets a dose of thimerosal...

    Wrong, dingbat.

    Mark, MD

    Coming from a doctor, calling people dingbats.

    http://www.state.ma.us/dph/cdc/epii/imm/vac_safety/rubberthierosal.htm

    Thank you, Jan for that reference. Obviously, you were as upset as Mark
    was when you read the lie that Rodney-Victor wrote when he stated "that
    every time vaccines are pumped into your daughter, she also gets a dose
    of thimerosal..."

    The URL you posted shows that HBV vaccine is readily available without
    Thimerosal. Thus, you have clearly shown, by your own words, and this
    excellent URL, that Rodney-Victor was a liar.

    Sad that.

    (Please repost for Jan to show her what a nice guy I am!)

  20. rodney_victor said:

    Tough we may be, but these toxins are cumulative and extremely
    damaging.

    Wrong. Mercury is excreted. In fact, the rate of excretion was so high
    it surprised some researchers.

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