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  1. Wednesday 8 August
    Circular walk to Helvellyn from Glenridding via Striding Edge and
    Swirral Edge.

    Photos: http://picasaweb.google.com/georgefaecartland/Helvellyn02

    Might not be a big deal for some but for my wife and I it was the
    fulfilment of an ambition which we've had for a few years since starting
    to visit the Lakes regularly.

    We had booked our short stay in the Royal Oak, Braithwaite, several
    weeks ago and were watching the weather forecasts with increasing gloom
    as this week got closer.

    However, the weather couldn't have been better for walking. On Tuesday
    (8 Aug), we did a short warm-up walk over Barrow. The forecast was that
    Wednesday would be even better.

    The books told us that it should take 4-5 hours to do the 12-13km round
    trip. We added a couple of hours (arthritic knees don't bend that
    quickly) and managed the round in 8 hours - with several stops along the
    way to enjoy the scenery (OK and to get out breath back after each stage!).

    We were not the only ones taking advantage of the weather. I guess
    there were easily a hundred or more processing up the route. A wide
    range of ages and equipment. I often feel over-dressed when I see
    others in gutties and t-shirts. I sometimes wonder if the dire warnings
    about rapid changes in the weather are not a bit like the "may contain
    nuts" warnings on food packets.

    For anyone who has not "done" Helvellyn, the route we followed has 6
    sections:

    1. Glenridding to the top of Birkhouse Moor - a bit of a slog on a
    clear path beside the Mires Beck. Route maps are not really necessary
    as there are plenty of people to follow. Not that I would advocate not
    having map, compass, GPS to hand. Near the top of this section, the
    path has been re-laid away from the wall which most guide books say to
    follow. Makes the ascent a bit easier but does add a wee bit to the length.

    2. A pleasant flat walk for about 1km to Hole-in-the-Wall. Good vistas
    of the whole walk ahead open up (on a clear day - some folk we had
    talked to before the walk told us that they'd been up more than once and
    still not seen anything because of the mist. I guess we were really
    lucky to get a clear day our first go. (First? Probably only time we'll
    do that walk!))

    3. Striding Edge. I can see how it would be practically suicide to try
    this ridge in anything other than the kind of weather we had: Clear,
    dry and very little cross-wind. For anyone with a good head for
    heights, in those conditions it is not too bad. If, like my wife, you
    prefer not to tightrope walk along a narrow ridge no matter what the
    conditions, there is a safe path just below the ridge crest. At the end
    of the Edge, there is a drop down about 7m which requires a bit of
    scrambling, then a bit of rock climbing onto the final approach. Again
    there is a way round this, which in places is not too clear, but avoids
    the rock face.

    4. Helvellyn summit. What can you say about this? I read that someone
    landed a plane here once. I can believe it. It is wide and flat. A
    well-constructed wind-break provides shelter if needed (not when we were
    there!) and the views in all directions were superb. WE could see from
    Morcombe bay in the south to beyond Bassenthwaite Lake in the north (a
    slight haze prevented seeing as far as the Solway, but I'm sure that
    would be possible on a really clear day).

    5. Swirral Edge. The guides I've read say that once you've got over the
    first bit, this is plain sailing. True. A bit of fairly easy
    scrambling down to a straightforward path. Our original intention was
    to continue along the ridge to Catstye Cam before descending, but we
    were getting tired and decided to take the obvious path which slopes off
    to the right down towards the outflow from Red Tarn.

    6. Descent path. Following Red Tarn Beck, then Glenridding Beck and so
    back to Glenridding village. This path has some steepish sections, but
    zig-zags have been built into it to ease progress. You need to know to
    cross over the Glenridding Beck at the weir at the Mine, or you contour
    round the foot of Birkhouse Moor, to join the outward path. This will
    get you back to the village, too, but you won't pass the Travellers'
    Rest - which was a very welcome end point to a smashing day on the hills.

    Knowing I would probably never be there again, I took a total of 116
    photos. I have put a selection of 50 of these in the Picasa web album
    referenced at the top of this post.
    --
    George

  2. Congratulations, and well done. Very good shots, a useful guide for those
    of us who haven't done the walk.

    What camera did you use?

  3. George said:

    I sometimes wonder if the dire warnings
    about rapid changes in the weather are not a bit like the "may contain
    nuts" warnings on food packets.

    Interesting contention. I haven't done a lot of hill walking in the UK
    but I have spent a lot of time in mountainous regions. Although I've
    always bought into the dire warnings, now I think about it I've never
    actually been caught out by a rapid change. Squalls come through with
    venom sometimes but are usually visible and never come out of a
    perfectly clear sky during a stable period of high pressure. Anabatic
    and Katabatic winds are predictable.

    Are "dire warnings about rapid changes in the weather" a trifle
    misleading?

  4. In message <[email hidden]>

    toad said:

    Interesting contention. I haven't done a lot of hill walking in the UK
    but I have spent a lot of time in mountainous regions. Although I've
    always bought into the dire warnings, now I think about it I've never
    actually been caught out by a rapid change. Squalls come through with
    venom sometimes but are usually visible and never come out of a
    perfectly clear sky during a stable period of high pressure. Anabatic
    and Katabatic winds are predictable.

    Quoted message said:

    Are "dire warnings about rapid changes in the weather" a trifle
    misleading?

    Not entirely, but completely unpredictable and unexpected changes are
    very unlikely IMO. I suppose what they are getting at are the quite
    normal cases of starting off in hot sunshine but ending up getting
    heavily rained on (not always easy to predict precisely when and where
    this will happen, but often does), and to people who don't realise
    conditions on top of the fells can be quite different to those at the
    bottom of the valley.

    --
    Simon Challands

  5. George said:

    Wednesday 8 August
    Circular walk to Helvellyn from Glenridding via Striding Edge and
    Swirral Edge.

    Photos: http://picasaweb.google.com/georgefaecartland/Helvellyn02

    Great photos George. Every time I've been up and over there, it's been
    in cloud or rain. And yes, it is a bit hairy in the wet. Managed to
    break a couple of ribs once after slipping 🙁

  6. Akiralx said:

    Congratulations, and well done. Very good shots, a useful guide for those
    of us who haven't done the walk.

    What camera did you use?

    Canon Powershot A95 on Landscape setting and high res mode, otherwise
    default settings.
    --
    George

  7. George said:

    Wednesday 8 August
    Circular walk to Helvellyn from Glenridding via Striding Edge and
    Swirral Edge.

    Photos: http://picasaweb.google.com/georgefaecartland/Helvellyn02

    I'm glad the weather was fine for you, I made a start up the route
    from Patterdale, the Thursday before, but the weather closed in with
    cloud and rain by the time we got to Hole in the wall. I was just
    having a recce as I didn't think my grand daughter would appreciate
    Striding edge but I didn't even manage a view.

    Quoted message said:

    We were not the only ones taking advantage of the weather. I guess
    there were easily a hundred or more processing up the route. A wide
    range of ages and equipment. I often feel over-dressed when I see
    others in gutties and t-shirts. I sometimes wonder if the dire warnings
    about rapid changes in the weather are not a bit like the "may contain
    nuts" warnings on food packets.

    Well we took up a fleece each but walked up in shirts, although we
    weren't cold, by the time we got to the steamers at Ullswater I was
    totally saturated, I don't know what the life expectancy of a cheap
    cagoule is or whether it was sweat but it would have been seriously
    deficient if the weather was colder or you were static.

    Quoted message said:


    1. Glenridding to the top of Birkhouse Moor - a bit of a slog on a
    clear path beside the Mires Beck. Route maps are not really necessary
    as there are plenty of people to follow. Not that I would advocate not
    having map, compass, GPS to hand. Near the top of this section, the
    path has been re-laid away from the wall which most guide books say to
    follow. Makes the ascent a bit easier but does add a wee bit to the length.

    Yes I was confused by this and it made it impossible to see the an
    alternative RoW through the wall back to Patterdale, A couple with tow
    teenage girls were searching for this exit and looked thoroughly
    uncomfortable all in shorts and very red looking legs. I was startled
    to be overtake by two mountain bikes on this section.

    Quoted message said:

    3. Striding Edge. I can see how it would be practically suicide to try
    this ridge in anything other than the kind of weather we had: Clear,
    dry and very little cross-wind.

    I'm glad we turned back, I'd spent 2 days recovering from Ben Nevis,
    I'd intended to walk in the Mamores again but having shown my grand
    daughter Dunnet and Duncansby heads she said she would like to try the
    big ben, which she easily accomplished. I struggled, with the worry of
    a swollen, bruised ankle from miss footing a tussock at John O'Groats,
    and it was foul with the cloud base above the lochen.

    I treated her to a platypus bum bag, (camelback too expensive) which
    she was ecstatic about and keen to put to use, for a good effort for
    an 11 year old.

    Quoted message said:

    Knowing I would probably never be there again, I took a total of 116
    photos. I have put a selection of 50 of these in the Picasa web album
    referenced at the top of this post.

    I'll be back but with more time next time, I've a number of
    unsuccessful ascents to retry and the ring of Steall, preferably when
    I've learned a decent river crossing method.

    AJH

  8. In message <[email hidden]>, George
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    Wednesday 8 August
    Circular walk to Helvellyn from Glenridding via Striding Edge and
    Swirral Edge.

    Photos: http://picasaweb.google.com/georgefaecartland/Helvellyn02

    Might not be a big deal for some but for my wife and I it was the
    fulfilment of an ambition which we've had for a few years since
    starting
    to visit the Lakes regularly.

    Very good report and excellent photos - thanks George.
    --
    Bill Grey

  9. In article <[email hidden]>, George
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:
    Akiralx said:

    Congratulations, and well done. Very good shots, a useful guide for
    those of us who haven't done the walk.
    What camera did you use?

    Canon Powershot A95 on Landscape setting and high res mode, otherwise
    default settings.

    I'd recommend Cloudy for White Balance on all the powershot range. Your
    pictures look rather blue to me but of course you may prefer that.

    However reviews of digital cameras almost always say that auto White
    Balance has problems.

    The A95 review on this British site is here:

    http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canona95/

    and actually it says that outdoors it's fine:

    http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canona95/page5.asp

    so that shows me wrong again...

    (but I still use Cloudy WB)
    --
    Bernard Hill
    Selkirk, Scotland

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