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  1. I ran my first marathon yesterday in Helsinki, and felt that this is a
    good time to stop lurking here at rec.running.

    I've been running for three years now, with the first summer going from
    1km to 10km, last summer from 10kms to 20km and last winter and this
    summer consisting of a long run and approximately one short run a week.
    All along the progression the advice in this newsgroup has been
    invaluable, as has been the help and motivation from my old friends,
    many of whom have started running in the last years.

    My longest run prior to the marathon was 3 hours 15 minutes and my last
    long run was 18 kilometers in 2 hours flat.

    The weather forecasts had been all over the place prior to the marathon.
    There was a large weather system going over Finland, with a good
    possibility of 25 m/s winds and rain.

    We were lucky. The temperature was about 17-20 degrees Centigrade with
    no rain whatsoever.

    The event has grown in popularity, 6830 participants had registered, but
    I'm not sure on how many actually participated. The amount of runners
    was reasonable. Most of the course had at least one car-lane in each
    direction, with only a few spots, where there were too many runners for
    the width of the course.

    The technical aspects of the race were good as well, the drinks,
    bananas, wet sponges, pickles and what have you, had not run out, with
    the exception of the sports drinks at the Nokia building post.

    My race strategy had been to run with the group going for a five hour
    finish in the beginning and increasing pace, if I feel up to it
    somewhere prior to the 30 km mark.

    Somehow I lost the 5-hour banner waving runners in the very beginning
    and started running at the pace that felt the most comfortable to me. I
    wound up running at about 6:45 per km, with the fastest km being 5:59
    and the slowest 7:15.

    The first half of the marathon went at 2:20. This had been easier than I
    had thought. I had run the Helsinki City Run half marathon this spring
    in 2:16, with a too fast beginning and a very strained last few kms.
    This time it was nothing like that. I chatted with the other runners,
    enjoyed the scenery and generally tried to relax, just as if I was on my
    regular long run. The huge amount of people really made my day. The
    Helsinki City Run had had a lot less runners and at my pace it had felt
    less of a communal experience than the marathon did.

    The first real challenges of the run began at around the 27 km mark. I
    was running with almost one year old New Balance 855s, and they were
    pretty beat up. This, a little bit of extra body weight and the strains
    of running ensured that the soles of my feet were hurting on each step.
    I tried to console myself with the fact that I had bought a new pair of
    shoes the day before (New Balance 1221s) and that this would be the last
    time I run with my old pair.

    I kept my pace however. I was not running out of energy, and passing the
    runners who had slowed down to walking felt empowering. The web site of
    the run shows that I had passed 856 runners in the second half of the
    event. Pretty good for a first timer, eh.

    Between kms 31 and 33 my brother came to cheer me. Instead of just
    saying "Tsemppiä" (="Keep it up"😉 he ran beside me with a full backpack,
    jeans and suede shoes. He also helped me keep my pace. I'm sure I would
    have run this part of the course almost a minute slower without having
    someone run beside me, as we were running a bit faster than the main
    crowd be this point.

    All in all my family came to cheer me at seven different points along
    the course, which was quite an accomplishment in itself and only
    possible due to good knowledge of the local transport system.

    The run became harder each kilometer after the 33 km mark, but I more or
    less kept my pace. There were runners by the side of the road at the end
    of each incline, and seeing them helped me keep to a more or less even
    effort rather than keeping to the pace.

    The hardest part of the course is the 20m hill right before the 40km
    mark. I ran up the hill, even though I had in advance given myself the
    "right" to walk there, if need be. This kicked off my sprint to the
    finish. I couldn't pick up speed during the 40 - 41 km part, most likely
    recovering from the uphill, but the last full km between the 41 and 42
    km mars went in 5:59, even though I had to wait for several seconds for
    cars to pass at the Norderskiöldinkatu lights. The last several hundred
    meters of the course were a steep downhill, which I ran as fast as
    possible -- this brought my pulse up to nearly 190, substantially above
    the 162 average I maintained along the course.

    I finished in 4:42, and the feeling was euphoric. A lot of preparation
    and running in the cold, wet and hot temperatures were worth it. Looking
    back, I feel that the run could not have gone better. running felt good
    all along the course, even during the most difficult parts, and the
    sense of accomplishment is incredible.

    The only real unplanned difficulty along the course was that my arms and
    hands felt very weak during the last few kilometers, a sensation not
    unlike that of staying too long in a hot Sauna. I drank a liter of water
    prior to the run and two cups of sports drink at each of the drinking
    stations, but could the loss of sense still have been from dehydration
    or an imbalance in salts, I wonder.

    I can't wait fro my legs to be in running shape again, new new shoes beg
    to be run in, and I'll most likely be re-running sunny the marathon in
    my mind during the runs on dark cold nights of the fall and winter.

    Petri Aukia

    --
    Petri Aukia

  2. Were there many foreign runners, particularly from North America, in the
    race? I've never visited Helsinki. and that's one place that I think would
    be uworth a visit to run a marathon, if I ever do one again!

    Jean in VA--off to Athens Monday morning!

    "Petri Aukia" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I ran my first marathon yesterday in Helsinki, and felt that this is a
    good time to stop lurking here at rec.running.

    I've been running for three years now, with the first summer going from
    1km to 10km, last summer from 10kms to 20km and last winter and this
    summer consisting of a long run and approximately one short run a week.
    All along the progression the advice in this newsgroup has been
    invaluable, as has been the help and motivation from my old friends,
    many of whom have started running in the last years.

    My longest run prior to the marathon was 3 hours 15 minutes and my last
    long run was 18 kilometers in 2 hours flat.

    The weather forecasts had been all over the place prior to the marathon.
    There was a large weather system going over Finland, with a good
    possibility of 25 m/s winds and rain.

    We were lucky. The temperature was about 17-20 degrees Centigrade with
    no rain whatsoever.

    The event has grown in popularity, 6830 participants had registered, but
    I'm not sure on how many actually participated. The amount of runners
    was reasonable. Most of the course had at least one car-lane in each
    direction, with only a few spots, where there were too many runners for
    the width of the course.

    The technical aspects of the race were good as well, the drinks,
    bananas, wet sponges, pickles and what have you, had not run out, with
    the exception of the sports drinks at the Nokia building post.

    My race strategy had been to run with the group going for a five hour
    finish in the beginning and increasing pace, if I feel up to it
    somewhere prior to the 30 km mark.

    Somehow I lost the 5-hour banner waving runners in the very beginning
    and started running at the pace that felt the most comfortable to me. I
    wound up running at about 6:45 per km, with the fastest km being 5:59
    and the slowest 7:15.

    The first half of the marathon went at 2:20. This had been easier than I
    had thought. I had run the Helsinki City Run half marathon this spring
    in 2:16, with a too fast beginning and a very strained last few kms.
    This time it was nothing like that. I chatted with the other runners,
    enjoyed the scenery and generally tried to relax, just as if I was on my
    regular long run. The huge amount of people really made my day. The
    Helsinki City Run had had a lot less runners and at my pace it had felt
    less of a communal experience than the marathon did.

    The first real challenges of the run began at around the 27 km mark. I
    was running with almost one year old New Balance 855s, and they were
    pretty beat up. This, a little bit of extra body weight and the strains
    of running ensured that the soles of my feet were hurting on each step.
    I tried to console myself with the fact that I had bought a new pair of
    shoes the day before (New Balance 1221s) and that this would be the last
    time I run with my old pair.

    I kept my pace however. I was not running out of energy, and passing the
    runners who had slowed down to walking felt empowering. The web site of
    the run shows that I had passed 856 runners in the second half of the
    event. Pretty good for a first timer, eh.

    Between kms 31 and 33 my brother came to cheer me. Instead of just
    saying "Tsemppiä" (="Keep it up"😉 he ran beside me with a full backpack,
    jeans and suede shoes. He also helped me keep my pace. I'm sure I would
    have run this part of the course almost a minute slower without having
    someone run beside me, as we were running a bit faster than the main
    crowd be this point.

    All in all my family came to cheer me at seven different points along
    the course, which was quite an accomplishment in itself and only
    possible due to good knowledge of the local transport system.

    The run became harder each kilometer after the 33 km mark, but I more or
    less kept my pace. There were runners by the side of the road at the end
    of each incline, and seeing them helped me keep to a more or less even
    effort rather than keeping to the pace.

    The hardest part of the course is the 20m hill right before the 40km
    mark. I ran up the hill, even though I had in advance given myself the
    "right" to walk there, if need be. This kicked off my sprint to the
    finish. I couldn't pick up speed during the 40 - 41 km part, most likely
    recovering from the uphill, but the last full km between the 41 and 42
    km mars went in 5:59, even though I had to wait for several seconds for
    cars to pass at the Norderskiöldinkatu lights. The last several hundred
    meters of the course were a steep downhill, which I ran as fast as
    possible -- this brought my pulse up to nearly 190, substantially above
    the 162 average I maintained along the course.

    I finished in 4:42, and the feeling was euphoric. A lot of preparation
    and running in the cold, wet and hot temperatures were worth it. Looking
    back, I feel that the run could not have gone better. running felt good
    all along the course, even during the most difficult parts, and the
    sense of accomplishment is incredible.

    The only real unplanned difficulty along the course was that my arms and
    hands felt very weak during the last few kilometers, a sensation not
    unlike that of staying too long in a hot Sauna. I drank a liter of water
    prior to the run and two cups of sports drink at each of the drinking
    stations, but could the loss of sense still have been from dehydration
    or an imbalance in salts, I wonder.

    I can't wait fro my legs to be in running shape again, new new shoes beg
    to be run in, and I'll most likely be re-running sunny the marathon in
    my mind during the runs on dark cold nights of the fall and winter.

    Petri Aukia

    --
    Petri Aukia

  3. Jean,

    There were quite a few foreign runners, but most of the ones I saw
    nearby were either from Sweden or from Germany with some Italians,
    Frenchmen, Portuguese and others for good measure The marathon is the
    best sight-seeing method for Helsinki, and I would really recommend
    going for it.

    There was an american cruise ship in town yesterday, and I would have
    expected to see some runners from the cruise -- I guess either they had
    not reserved tickets, did not know of the run, or were too few in number
    to stand out.

    Petri

    Quoted message said:

    Were there many foreign runners, particularly from North America, in the
    race? I've never visited Helsinki. and that's one place that I think would
    be uworth a visit to run a marathon, if I ever do one again!

  4. "Jean S. Barto" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<9w1Wc.7265$Ka6.5260@okepread03>...

    Quoted message said:

    Were there many foreign runners, particularly from North America, in the
    race? I've never visited Helsinki. and that's one place that I think would
    be uworth a visit to run a marathon, if I ever do one again!

    There are usually no more than 400-500 foreign runners,
    this year there were 26 from the U.S. and 5 from Canada.

    Quoted message said:

    Jean in VA--off to Athens Monday morning!

    Well, Helsinki will host the IAAF World Championships next
    year and you should be able to combine spectating and
    participating:-)

    Anders

  5. Petri Aukia said:

    I ran my first marathon yesterday in Helsinki, and felt that this is a
    good time to stop lurking here at rec.running.


    Welcome and congratulations on your first marathon!

    Quoted message said:

    mars went in 5:59, even though I had to wait for several seconds for
    cars to pass at the Norderskiöldinkatu lights.


    This sounds like a foul-up by the race organisers. Or is this 1 part of
    the course which isn't closed to
    traffic?

    Quoted message said:

    I finished in 4:42, and the feeling was euphoric. A lot of preparation
    and running in the cold, wet and hot temperatures were worth it. Looking
    back, I feel that the run could not have gone better. running felt good
    all along the course, even during the most difficult parts, and the
    sense of accomplishment is incredible.


    Nothing quite like that feeling! And you ran even splits - great
    accomplishment.

    Quoted message said:

    The only real unplanned difficulty along the course was that my arms and
    hands felt very weak during the last few kilometers, a sensation not
    unlike that of staying too long in a hot Sauna. I drank a liter of water
    prior to the run and two cups of sports drink at each of the drinking
    stations, but could the loss of sense still have been from dehydration
    or an imbalance in salts, I wonder.


    Perhaps your arms were just tired with the effort of almost 5 hours running.

    Quoted message said:

    I can't wait fro my legs to be in running shape again, new new shoes beg
    to be run in, and I'll most likely be re-running sunny the marathon in
    my mind during the runs on dark cold nights of the fall and winter.


    Enoy the new shoes.

    Anthony.

  6. Anthony said:

    Welcome and congratulations on your first marathon!

    Thank You.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    mars went in 5:59, even though I had to wait for several seconds for
    cars to pass at the Norderskiöldinkatu lights.


    This sounds like a foul-up by the race organisers. Or is this 1 part of
    the course which isn't closed to
    traffic?

    Absolutely. The staff responsible for cutting off traffic were regular
    traffic cops for the most part. I guess that they were not sensitive
    enough to making sure that the "pedestrian" traffic has absolute right
    of way.

    Quoted message said:

    Nothing quite like that feeling! And you ran even splits - great
    accomplishment.

    I agree. the feeling of not having to slow down really made my day, and
    resulted in a faster time as well, I'm sure.

    Quoted message said:

    Perhaps your arms were just tired with the effort of almost 5 hours running.

    I'm not too worried about the tiring arms. I guess it's time to start
    planning for the next marathon, Stockholm 2005 maybe, and if the same
    thing happens, start figuring out what is going on afterwards.

    Petri

  7. Anthony <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    mars went in 5:59, even though I had to wait for several seconds for
    cars to pass at the Norderskiöldinkatu lights.

    Quoted message said:

    This sounds like a foul-up by the race organisers. Or is this 1 part of
    the course which isn't closed to traffic?

    There are two points where the course crosses a street
    that isn´t closed, the first is IIRC on km 38 and the
    second on km 42. This is not an ideal state of affairs,
    but there probably isn´t any workable solution to avoid
    it.

    The principle is that the runners have a complete right
    of way and the cars and trams are led across one at a
    time whenever there are suitable gaps. Since the runners
    are spread thin by these points, this is quite feasible.

    FWIW I´ve never heard or read of anyone who´s had to
    stop or to wait for cars to cross. In my one race the
    traffic was stopped for me as I approached the second
    crossing (and in the first there had been an immobile
    queue of cars).

    However, I´m certainly not suggesting that Petri imagined
    it up:-) This is just to say that anyone who´s contemplating
    entering the marathon need not worry too much about it.

    Anders

  8. Petri Aukia <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    I've been running for three years now, with the first summer going from
    1km to 10km, last summer from 10kms to 20km and last winter and this
    summer consisting of a long run and approximately one short run a week.

    Whoa! Are you saying that your average week feaured just
    two runs?

    A slow, careful start is always a good thing - and those
    few people who manage to stay deaf to the beckoning calls
    of "Run more! It´s so easy! It feels so good! It´ll make
    you faster! You can run a marathon tomorrow!" are worthy
    of all admiration - but this strikes me as dangerously
    close to being underprepared.

    I take it that you running wasn´t your only activity, but
    even "cross training" is counted as endurance training,
    it isn´t necesarily wise to enter a marathon on so little
    actual running.

    But I must admit you seem to have fared and done well.

    Quoted message said:

    This time it was nothing like that. I chatted with the other runners,
    enjoyed the scenery and generally tried to relax, just as if I was on my
    regular long run. The huge amount of people really made my day. The
    Helsinki City Run had had a lot less runners and at my pace it had felt
    less of a communal experience than the marathon did.

    Your approach was the best possible - and as your result
    shows, it is perhaps more likely to lead to the wished
    result, timewise, than a more "goal-centered" one.

    Quoted message said:

    I tried to console myself with the fact that I had bought a new pair of
    shoes the day before (New Balance 1221s) and that this would be the last
    time I run with my old pair.

    I know they say one shouldn´t run on a brand new pair, but
    as you noticed, sticking to an old pair may not be ideal,
    either.

    Quoted message said:

    I kept my pace however. I was not running out of energy, and passing the
    runners who had slowed down to walking felt empowering. The web site of
    the run shows that I had passed 856 runners in the second half of the
    event. Pretty good for a first timer, eh.

    The field of runners always seems to consist almost entirely
    of people who overestimate their ability or get carried away.
    Ín a land of blind people the one-eyed man is a king:-)

    Quoted message said:

    The last several hundred
    meters of the course were a steep downhill, which I ran as fast as
    possible -- this brought my pulse up to nearly 190, substantially above
    the 162 average I maintained along the course.

    Did you notice the words of encouragement painted (years
    ago) in the asphalt in that hill?

    Best wishes for your next marathon(s)!

    Anders

  9. In article <[email hidden]>, Anders Lustig

    Quoted message said:

    FWIW I´ve never heard or read of anyone who´s had to
    stop or to wait for cars to cross.

    Last saturday I had to wait a couple of seconds while waiting that
    a bus crossed the course. Or at least I think it was a bus.
    I was feeling a bit "run over" at that point :-)

    Anyway, not a big problem and since it's one car at a time, you just
    have to slow down a little or walk a few steps.

    Pasi

  10. Pasi Oja-Nisula <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Anyway, not a big problem and since it's one car at a time, you just
    have to slow down a little or walk a few steps.

    You know, there probably was another option: to hit
    another gear when you approach the crossing so that
    your increasing pace makes it readily apparent to the
    traffic cop that you´ll run over the car if necessary:-)

    Anders

    PS the words painted in the short, but agonizing hill
    just before the finish are:

    HOP
    ALLEZ

    You can read them from maybe 10 meters (if they´re not
    hidden behind runners in front of you - and if you are
    not in a zombie state by then). The story has it that
    they stem from the 1983 World Championships, but I don´t
    think that 1) the white paint used could´ve survived
    so long, and 2) the marathon route went that way (it
    certainly didn´t in the 1995 Euros).

  11. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Anders Lustig) said:

    Petri Aukia <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    I've been running for three years now, with the first summer going from
    1km to 10km, last summer from 10kms to 20km and last winter and this
    summer consisting of a long run and approximately one short run a week.

    Whoa! Are you saying that your average week feaured just
    two runs?

    Yes, or to state it more accurately, I tried to do three runs, but
    succeeded in accomplishing three runs only half of the time. Then again,
    I got the two runs in pretty much every week, including the the Dec-Feb
    time frame, with a rock steady increase in the duration and the pace of
    my long run.

    Quoted message said:

    I take it that you running wasn´t your only activity, but
    even "cross training" is counted as endurance training,
    it isn´t necesarily wise to enter a marathon on so little
    actual running.

    True, I had tried to get a lot more running done in the summer, but
    that just did not happen. In the winter I did quite a lot of gym
    training, with a special focus on my legs, back and abdomen, but I'm not
    sure on how beneficial that was in the actual event.

    Quoted message said:

    Did you notice the words of encouragement painted (years
    ago) in the asphalt in that hill?

    No I didn't. At first I thought that I'd go and look it up, the next
    time I'm in the neighborhood, but upon closer inspection, maybe it's
    best that I'll have a look in the next year's marathon.

    Petri

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