Help with custom 29"

Before you decide on the frame, you probably have to make up your mind
about brakes (and hub) first. I strongly recommend Maguras, in which
case, that alone would make the KH frame a good option as you have the
fittings already there. Of course they can be fitted to the Nimbus,
but it'll cost more (maybe more than the KH in total?), and not be as
neat looking.

To help make your money last, you do not have to get the brakes strait
away, of course. They can be fitted at any time, so you can keep an
eye on eBay and pick them up when you see a really cheap set.

The KH/Schlumpf hub sounds like an excellent choice. (I love my
standard 29" Schlumpf and find it a very versatile unicycle). However,
there's some debate at the moment about it fitting in the Nimbus frame.
The hub needs machined bearing holders, and the Nimbus used to have
pressed bearing holders. This -may -be changing though, so could be
worth waiting for clarity on.

It'll be worth working out the price of buying all of the components on
their own and comparing it to buying a complete unicycle though. That
might work out cheaper.

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yeah KH frame, as otherwise brakes cost you an extra £25 in mounts +
welding them on, which makes up for the difference in cost between the
frames. There is no way to get a reasonable muni brake except by
fitting maguras or v-brakes, both of which add cost to a nimbus frame.

Also, with the nimbus frame it's a bit uncertain as to whether it fits
the kh geared hub, as there's some things with the bearing holders that
have to be right, and no-one has set one up yet to try.

You probably will want brakes on a geared KH29 at least at some point.
If you can't afford them right now, then just start off without. I'd go
for hs33 brakes because I found v-brakes to be more hassle than they
were worth on my 29er because of the big tyre, and 29er tyres seem to
be coming out in a bit bigger sizes, having maguras gives you a
choice.

There is the hs11 which is a cheaper version of the HS33. It is okay,
especially if you get the one with the metal lever not the plastic
lever, the only major difference in practice is that it doesn't have
the adjuster, you adjust for pad wear using an allen key. That isn't a
massive issue - I know on my unicycles I never fiddle with the adjuster
once it is set up, but the adjuster is very nice during setup of the
brake.

Personally I've got a very customised schlumpf 29er with a custom frame
and a whole bunch of random parts, and if I bought one now, I would go
completely stock KH geared 29 , because it fits together much more
nicely, no hassles with brake fitting / choice, and it just all works
nicely.

I think geared 29ers are fantastic for the purposes you're describing -
I use mine for travelling, and it is super being able to get around
quickly, but also be possible to ride muni. In some ways I'd like a 26,
but I don't think the difference is big enough to justify the hassle of
building up a 26 from parts. 36s are great, but they just aren't
convenient if you are travelling anywhere to ride.

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joemarshall said:

Also, with the nimbus frame it's a bit uncertain as to whether it fits
the kh geared hub, as there's some things with the bearing holders that
have to be right, and no-one has set one up yet to try.

Actually, 'someone has already tried it'
(http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68935). As for the
brake, the same person recommend to just 'drill a hole'
(http://tinyurl.com/6ygo6b) through the frame (not aluminum frame,
obviously).
Now, guess who made me hesitate to follow my first plan. :p

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hansc said:

Actually, 'someone has already tried it'
(http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68935). As for the
brake, the same person recommend to just 'drill a hole'
(http://tinyurl.com/6ygo6b) through the frame (not aluminum frame,
obviously).
Now, guess who made me hesitate to follow my first plan. :p

Yeah, but maguras are *great* on a muni. I'd be happy with caliper
brakes on a unicycle just for road riding, but for a muni, maguras (or
v-brakes) are just way better. If you're spending £800 or whatever it
is on the hub alone, it seems silly to skimp to save £30 on the frame
and £20 on the brakes, just don't fit brakes to start with, and add
them once you've saved up a bit.

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What are the reasons you do not think a 36 will suit you?

As far as price is concerned a nice 36 set up is going to be a little
over a third of the cost of a nice KH guni set up. The 36 is great for
light XC and commuting and as far as uni tours go it is great. It is a
huge wheel to bring onto a bus/cab/plane though, but it can be done.
It is my favorite wheel size as far as unicycles are concerned.

However, as you said it is already decided that you want the
KH/Schlumpf hub then here is my additional advice:

Rim: KH rim is perfect. It is wide and strong to give you a nice
square profile to your ride.

Frame: KH frame. As Joe and Spencer have mentioned, it already comes
with brake mounts and you know it will fit nicely with the hub
already.

I still say that if you are low on money that you should get the 36
instead. You already have a 26" Nimbus that will meet your XC needs,
and the 36 is a really fun ride. I own both a KH/Schlumpf 29er and a
regular ungeared 36er.

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I read this post and thought "you're spending $1300 on a hub and are
worried about a few dollars here and there on the frame?" Get the KH
so it all works together well and nothing is bodged(as our UK friends
would say).

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i think you should just get the KH29, that way everything fits, the
brakes can be added later and you know the hub will fit, then you will
have your dream uni!!

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If I did it all over again, I would not have purchased both a 29 and 36.
Instead I would have bought just a KH29 with KH/Shumpf gear hub, HS33
brakes, fusion freeride seat, T7 handle.

I don't need both uni's. The only reason I have the 36 is for RTL.
If I had just purchased the 29 and geared hub I would have a dream uni.

I like riding the 36, but after 15 - 20km my legs get tired. In city
riding, stopping and going at traffic lights, sidewalks, and
intersections my freemounting percentage starts to go down to 30%
success rate due to tired legs.

On my 29 I keep my freemounting to 100% regardless to how tired I am.
Also I can idle my 29 easily, but can't idle my 36.

In city traffic I can dart easily thru traffic, idle at stop light or
freemount at will when required (on 29)

My non geared 29 is slower than 36. On long distance that I want some
off road I still take 29; otherwise its the 36.

*My advise is, save the extra money and get all the parts at once!!!!
Stick with your dream and you'll have no regrets later.*

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Thank you for all the advices, thanks to you I think I've made up my
mind.

siafirede, legtod2 listed some reasons that apply to me as well. I
mostly ride in the city and on small paths. A 36" seems somehow more
"clumsy" in those environments.
I also want to be able to bring my unicycle wherever I go; not sure
everyone would appreciate a Coker on a bus 😉 . Not all cars can take a
36er either, and it probably won't fit in my suitcase if I want to
travel somewhere.

Conclusion: I'm probably going to wait for the KH08 and then purchase a
compete Kris Holm unicycle, either 07 or the new model (depends on the
price and improvements), with the KH/Schlumpf hub. Meanwhile, I'll
check ebay etc. for cheap maggies.

Speaking of which, I have some questions about the Magura brakes. This
thread was started by me, so this isn't really a thread hijack, is it?
😉

1. Do you think a front brake cable is long enough for the 29"? My
inseam is about 85 cm. (I want to avoid cutting if possible).
2. What do you consider as a reasonable price? What do you think of
'this auction' (http://tinyurl.com/3hckko), for example?
3. Should I get a bleeding kit even if I don't plan to adjust the cable
length? Which tools do I need for maintenance?
4. I heard that Maguras don't need much maintenance at all, is this
true?

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I purchased a set of HS33 maguras for my Nimbus 36.

I paid $50.00 for them (Used). The one problem is the mounting brackets
don't fit my N36. So I had to order them from UDC.com for another
$15.00. This price seams like a good deal. UDC also sells HS33 but
don't be affaid to shop arround.

Once the brackets arrive I'll mount them and try them out. Lots of
hills in my area so it will be interesting to see how they work on
Nightrider pro rim.

Can't speak to maintenance on brakes till I actually use them for a
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Nothing wrong with the brakes? Just want to confirm before bidding.

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hansc said:

1. Do you think a front brake cable is long enough for the 29"? My
inseam is about 85 cm. (I want to avoid cutting if possible).
2. What do you consider as a reasonable price? What do you think of
'this auction' (http://tinyurl.com/3hckko), for example?
3. Should I get a bleeding kit even if I don't plan to adjust the cable
length? Which tools do I need for maintenance?
4. I heard that Maguras don't need much maintenance at all, is this
true?

1. It should be. I bought a second hand front Magura from eBay and
that fitted my N36 with T7 fine.
2. I think I paid about £15 (translate this in to whatever currency
you're happy with) for mine second hand. The price on the one you
linked to looks ok for a new one, but you could save a lot if you don't
go for new. (price is currently £62 with 3 hours to go)
3. I've recently bought a service kit (includes bleed kit, oil, new
hoses and fittings) as I have a set where I need to change the hoses.
Unless you need a kit, I wouldn't bother. You can probably find
someone friendly with one that has the syringes you can borrow.
4. The second hand one I had on my N36 never needed any maintenance.

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