HELP: Where To Put Spare Tire



On Jun 7, 1:04 pm, "Maple Tree" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am riding a TREK Madone 5.2, full carbon fibre bike. I keep two spare
> tubes and tools inside my saddle bag, it is now full.
>
> Where on my bike should I keep a spare tire in case one breaks, I have seen
> it happen to fellow riders. Maybe I can strap one on to the back Stays
> above the rear tire ?
>
> I am wide open to suggestions.
>
> Thank you


First, you need to twist the tire into a triple loop. Grab the tire
on opposite sides with both hands and twist into a figure 8. Push the
crossover closer to one side and twist again and the tire should curl
up into a small triple coil. Pull over the nose of the seat then over
the back. It is now around the seat post over the top tube and seat
stays. Using a small bungy cord, on the non-chainring side pull down
to the backside of the front derailer, carefull avoiding interfereing
with its use. Attaching bungy cord to down tube could result in
cables cutting the bungy cord, using the chain stay could pull tire
into wheel.
 
Maple Tree wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am riding a TREK Madone 5.2, full carbon fibre bike. I keep two spare
> tubes and tools inside my saddle bag, it is now full.
>
> Where on my bike should I keep a spare tire in case one breaks, I have seen
> it happen to fellow riders. Maybe I can strap one on to the back Stays
> above the rear tire ?
>
> I am wide open to suggestions.
>



Hire a Domestique and make him carry your extra ****.

Bill
 
"Maple Tree" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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| Hello,
|
| I am riding a TREK Madone 5.2, full carbon fibre bike. I keep two spare
| tubes and tools inside my saddle bag, it is now full.
|
| Where on my bike should I keep a spare tire in case one breaks, I have
seen
| it happen to fellow riders. Maybe I can strap one on to the back Stays
| above the rear tire ?
|
| I am wide open to suggestions.
|
| Thank you

Get the absolute lightest, thinnest tire you can find for a spare, something
that folds up really flat (you can generally see the differences pretty
easily at the shop), and you can attach it underneath your seatbag using
very thin bungee cords or toe straps.

But do you really need to carry a spare tire? If I were doing a
cross-country ride, sure I would, because there might be times I'd be miles
and miles from a shop or civilization in general. But the reality is that I
ride about 6k miles/year, have done so for the past umpteen years, and get
maybe one flat every 3k miles or so and haven't destroyed a tire beyond its
ability to get me back home in... well, don't recall if I ever have, at
least not in my post-tubular days. Nor do I recall anyone in the rides I've
been on having to use a spare tire (or get sagged back).

For most serious gashes, you can tear off a piece of handlebar tape, or the
oft-suggested dollar bill or powerbar wrapper. And if that doesn't work,
there's always the cell phone.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
 
SMS wrote:
> Yeah, there's a lot of roads around here where you have to be really
> careful about some of the long, steep descents to not blow out your tire.
>
> Sometimes I wish for a disc brake on a road bike. My tandem has a rear
> drum drag brake, but it's really too heavy for a road bike.
>
> REI had one road bike with disc brakes, but it seems to have been
> discountinued,
> "http://web.archive.org/web/20070427113144/http://www.rei.com/product/744808"


http://www.salsacycles.com/laCruz08.html

--
Paul M. Hobson
..:change the f to ph to reply:.
 
"Maple Tree" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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<snip>

> I am riding a TREK Madone 5.2, full carbon fibre bike.


<snip, snip>

> I am not a racer, I am a club rider. Ultra-light doesn't work for me ...


The combination of these two statements above leaves me confused.

Sophisticated, yet not too refined?
Optimal balance of lateral stiffness and vertical compliance?
Bold, yet not too assertive?
Utilizes the inherent vibration damping qualities of OCLV to deliver just
the right amount of road feedback to keep you in-tune with the road?

BobT
 
Fred Fredburger wrote:
> Don't forget to bring a spare rider. Just in case you get tired.


What about a team car. I'm told the Rock Racing models come with used
models inside.
 
Robert Chung wrote:
> Haven't you been paying attention? The dollar is weak compared to other
> currencies.


You need to use $1.50 where you would use 1 Euro. Good luck with getting
cents to stick, perhaps you better wait until it becomes $2.00.
 
Maple Tree writes:
>> Where on my bike should I keep a spare tire in case one breaks, I have
>> seen it happen to fellow riders.


A R:nen wrote:
> Around the waist as per UCI regulations for Masters Fatties.


It could also go in their Camelback.
 
On Jun 7, 8:24 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email protected]> wrote:

> But do you really need to carry a spare tire? If I were doing a
> cross-country ride, sure I would, because there might be times I'd be miles
> and miles from a shop or civilization in general. But the reality is that I
> ride about 6k miles/year, have done so for the past umpteen years, and get
> maybe one flat every 3k miles or so and haven't destroyed a tire beyond its
> ability to get me back home in... well, don't recall if I ever have, at
> least not in my post-tubular days.  Nor do I recall anyone in the rides I've
> been on having to use a spare tire (or get sagged back).
>
> For most serious gashes, you can tear off a piece of handlebar tape, or the
> oft-suggested dollar bill or powerbar wrapper. And if that doesn't work,
> there's always the cell phone.
>


http://www.ucolick.org/~bjw/misc/rbt/badflat.jpg

This is a historical re-enactment, but without the
fake blurry effects in a bad History Channel documentary.
In reality, I took the screw out, replaced the tube, used
a piece of Tyvek to boot the holes in the tire, and rode
home. At home, I put the screw back in to take
the photo for documentary purposes. It was only a
couple of miles from home and I could have ridden
more. The most serious issue in all of this was that
I was going downhill and the tire went flat really fast.
You can't see it in this picture, but there is actually
cosmetic damage to the rim from the screw.

Tyvek rules, BTW. Free in any express mail envelope.

Ben
 
On 2008-06-08, Tom Kunich <cyclintom@yahoo> wrote:
> "Maple Tree" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>
>> Unfortunately, there is a lot of junvenile minds on this ng :)

>
> Your question is a bit juvenile don't you think? You can't figure out where
> to put a spare tire on your bicycle? I've been back riding for 25 years and
> I've needed a tire once. And I was within a block of a bike shop about to
> open. And I put in more than 5,000 miles a year.
>
> If you are that nervous about a spare tire I would have thought that you'd
> already have figured out a couple of ways: a) you carry it in your center
> back pocket like the sewup people do. b) You tape it between the seat rails
> and above the seat pack. c) You put it inside a dummy water bottle in the
> second water bottle mount. Is this rocket science?


If you're going on a ride long enough to consider a spare tyre you
probably need two bottles of water.
 
On Jun 7, 3:51 pm, "Maple Tree" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Bob Schwartz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
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>
> >I carry a single tube and a patch kit.
> > For tire repair I carry a section of
> > tubular casing and a hunk of... duct
> > tape. I've never run over anything that
> > damaged a tire beyond booting with one
> > of those two.

>
> > If you have seen fellow riders break
> > tires, ask them what kind they are
> > riding. Don't buy those tires. Tires
> > shouldn't break.

>
> > Bob Schwartz

>
> Not sure, but it does happen from time to time


Don't buy the kind that break. D'oh! If your brake pads are adjusted
to not contact the sidewall--carrying a spare clincher on a training
ride is pure paranoia.
 
"Ben C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 2008-06-08, Tom Kunich <cyclintom@yahoo> wrote:
>> "Maple Tree" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, there is a lot of junvenile minds on this ng :)

>>
>> Your question is a bit juvenile don't you think? You can't figure out
>> where
>> to put a spare tire on your bicycle? I've been back riding for 25 years
>> and
>> I've needed a tire once. And I was within a block of a bike shop about to
>> open. And I put in more than 5,000 miles a year.
>>
>> If you are that nervous about a spare tire I would have thought that
>> you'd
>> already have figured out a couple of ways: a) you carry it in your center
>> back pocket like the sewup people do. b) You tape it between the seat
>> rails
>> and above the seat pack. c) You put it inside a dummy water bottle in the
>> second water bottle mount. Is this rocket science?

>
> If you're going on a ride long enough to consider a spare tyre you
> probably need two bottles of water.


How long is a ride long enough to consider a spare tire?
 
<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> http://www.ucolick.org/~bjw/misc/rbt/badflat.jpg


I had one that went straight in and rammed a hole through rim half-way
between two spoke holes. It went in so deeply and tightly that I had to get
a screwdriver from someone in the group and unscrew it to get it out.

10 years later we were sitting around in an outdoor coffee shop and started
talking about that and there was a guy there who I'd given the wheels to who
was still using it with the extra spoke hole. They were mounted on the bike
he was riding!
 
On Jun 7, 11:04 am, "Maple Tree" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am riding a TREK Madone 5.2, full carbon fibre bike. I keep two spare
> tubes and tools inside my saddle bag, it is now full.
>
> Where on my bike should I keep a spare tire in case one breaks, I have seen
> it happen to fellow riders. Maybe I can strap one on to the back Stays
> above the rear tire ?
>
> I am wide open to suggestions.
>
> Thank you


I carry a spare tube, a home made patch kit, and a Swiss Army knife in
the back pockets of my jersey. I also carry a piece of sewup casing
for a boot, as I have also gotten an occasional nail or other object
that ruined my tire. The Tyvek boot solution sounds like a very good
idea though, as well as the suggestion to get it from a mailing
envelope.

The spare tube is for cases where the cause of the puncture is not
obvious, or in case the tube is severely damaged as in the case of a
nail. If I know where the hole is I'll often just do the minimum
amount of work to get at that section of the tube, but a patch on it
and be back in business.

The post about exploding tires from braking was interesting. That's
never happened to me. However, my philosophy is that brakes are for
stopping at the end of the ride.

And yes, if you must carry a spare tire, it goes around your waist,
but best to try the andouillette diet: eat as much as you want, and
anything you want, as long as it's andouillette.
-Paul
 
On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 09:57:24 +0200, Donald Munro
<[email protected]> wrote:

>> Haven't you been paying attention? The dollar is weak compared to other
>> currencies.

>
>You need to use $1.50 where you would use 1 Euro.


Especially as 1 euro is a coin, not a bank note ...
 
On 2008-06-08, Tom Kunich <cyclintom@yahoo> wrote:
> "Ben C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> On 2008-06-08, Tom Kunich <cyclintom@yahoo> wrote:

[...]
>> If you're going on a ride long enough to consider a spare tyre you
>> probably need two bottles of water.

>
> How long is a ride long enough to consider a spare tire?


A long tour lasting a few weeks and going through the middle of nowhere.
I never carry one.

Two bottles of water however is advised for distances >= 50km in warm
weather.
 
Ben C <[email protected]> writes:
> On 2008-06-08, Tom Kunich <cyclintom@yahoo> wrote:


> > How long is a ride long enough to consider a spare tire?


> A long tour lasting a few weeks and going through the middle of nowhere.


....if you can't spare a few days or you are so deep in the middle of
nowhere that you can't rely on the miracles of modern logistics.
Of course you also need to make arrangements if the tour is long
enough to need that extra rubber already from normal wear and tear.
 
On Jun 8, 4:10 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:

> You can't see it in this picture, but there is actually
> cosmetic damage to the rim from the screw.


I think you just solved a mystery for me. I had an odd flat last
winter that turned out to be caused by a rough spot on the inside of
the rim, between two spoke holes. I was baffled as to how I got the
rough spot in the first place.

Seeing that screw reminded me that I'd had a similar flat in Buffalo
NY a few years ago. It probably scratched the rim then, possibly under
the rim strip - and that scratch slowly worked its way through and
wore at the tube.

I dremmelled it smooth this time.
 
On Jun 8, 1:19 pm, Ben C <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 2008-06-08, Tom Kunich <cyclintom@yahoo> wrote:
>
> > "Ben C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> >> On 2008-06-08, Tom Kunich <cyclintom@yahoo> wrote:

> [...]
> >> If you're going on a ride long enough to consider a spare tyre you
> >> probably need two bottles of water.

>
> > How long is a ride long enough to consider a spare tire?

>
> A long tour lasting a few weeks and going through the middle of nowhere.
> I never carry one.
>
> Two bottles of water however is advised for distances >= 50km in warm
> weather.


I've spent a couple of summers doing long tours, one in the US and one
in Western Europe. Never carried a spare tire. I just got replacements
at bike shops. Now though I carry a spare tire where ever I go. ;-)
I crossed Nevada and Utah on one of those tours. I carried a water
bag- I think it held a gallon. Two water bottles doesn't cut it in the
desert.
-Paul