Help. Urgent advice needed.

Jeff Grippe said:

I realize that a newsgroup is not the best place to go for time sensitive
information but here goes.

I work in Manhattan and live in Westchester. I may have to ride home today.
It has been many years since I rode out of Manhattan and to the North. I
seem to remember taking Broadway all the way up but I don't remember. Any
advice about how to get out of Manhattan on a trike would be appreciated.

The primary way north out of Manhattan, Illinois is U.S. Route 52.
However, Eastern Avenue has much less high speed traffic, and would be
better in that respect for a recumbent trike rider.

Don't you hate intelligent above seat steering?
--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

"We are discussing whether humans as prey are 'natural'. Clearly,
they are, or that mountain lion wouldn't have been trying to eat a
human." - M.V.

You must be a consultant.

Your advice was (I assume) completely accurate and totally useless.

Jeff
"Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Jeff Grippe said:

I realize that a newsgroup is not the best place to go for time sensitive
information but here goes.

I work in Manhattan and live in Westchester. I may have to ride home
today.
It has been many years since I rode out of Manhattan and to the North. I
seem to remember taking Broadway all the way up but I don't remember. Any
advice about how to get out of Manhattan on a trike would be appreciated.

The primary way north out of Manhattan, Illinois is U.S. Route 52.
However, Eastern Avenue has much less high speed traffic, and would be
better in that respect for a recumbent trike rider.

Don't you hate intelligent above seat steering?
--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

"We are discussing whether humans as prey are 'natural'. Clearly,
they are, or that mountain lion wouldn't have been trying to eat a
human." - M.V.

"Jeff Grippe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I realize that a newsgroup is not the best place to go for time sensitive
information but here goes.

I work in Manhattan and live in Westchester. I may have to ride home
today. It has been many years since I rode out of Manhattan and to the
North. I seem to remember taking Broadway all the way up but I don't
remember. Any advice about how to get out of Manhattan on a trike would be
appreciated.

Thanks,

Jeff

From what I remember of Manhattan traffic you are going to have to convince
me you don't have a death wish.

How about riding your tricycle to the train station and use their facilities
to get to work. Personally I would probably want the convenience of a motor
scooter to get to the train station if I didn't have access to a car.

Seems to me dealing with a tricycle once you get to the train station or to
your work would be problematic.

Naturally I have no clue what the best route would be. I'm just trying to
save lives here.

Well first of all there is a beautiful bike path along the Hudson river on
the west side. It goes almost all the way up Manhattan. If I had not
experienced a bike problem at 96th Street I would have riden it all the way
up. It is away from the road, patrolled, and free of traffic (other than
other bikes, hikers, roller blader, etc.)

The best crossover into the Bronx was as I had remembered, the Broadway
Bridge. I ended up riding up Broadway north of 96th Street and the traffic
wasn't too bad.

The really bad news was Broadway (Rt. 9) in Yonkers (and north). It was very
hilly and heavily trafficed. The fact that I had a brake problem that wasn't
easily fixed on the road didn't help.

Jeff
"HHS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Jeff Grippe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I realize that a newsgroup is not the best place to go for time sensitive
information but here goes.

I work in Manhattan and live in Westchester. I may have to ride home
today. It has been many years since I rode out of Manhattan and to the
North. I seem to remember taking Broadway all the way up but I don't
remember. Any advice about how to get out of Manhattan on a trike would
be appreciated.

Thanks,

Jeff

From what I remember of Manhattan traffic you are going to have to
convince me you don't have a death wish.

How about riding your tricycle to the train station and use their
facilities to get to work. Personally I would probably want the
convenience of a motor scooter to get to the train station if I didn't
have access to a car.

Seems to me dealing with a tricycle once you get to the train station or
to your work would be problematic.

Naturally I have no clue what the best route would be. I'm just trying to
save lives here.

"HHS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

"Jeff Grippe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I realize that a newsgroup is not the best place to go for time sensitive
information but here goes.

I work in Manhattan and live in Westchester. I may have to ride home
today. It has been many years since I rode out of Manhattan and to the
North. I seem to remember taking Broadway all the way up but I don't
remember. Any advice about how to get out of Manhattan on a trike would
be appreciated.

Thanks,

Jeff

From what I remember of Manhattan traffic you are going to have to
convince me you don't have a death wish.

How about riding your tricycle to the train station and use their
facilities to get to work. Personally I would probably want the
convenience of a motor scooter to get to the train station if I didn't
have access to a car.

Seems to me dealing with a tricycle once you get to the train station or
to your work would be problematic.

Naturally I have no clue what the best route would be. I'm just trying to
save lives here.

I don't think it is possible to save suicidal morons from themselves.

The very best way to get around New York City is via public transit (mainly
the subways) and then walk. I lived in New York for many years and anyone
who would drive a car or ride a bike in the city was nothing more or less
than an imbecile. The main point of living in a city like New York is to
divest yourself of private means of locomotion and rely on the public means.
Most European cities are set up this way too.

Hells Bells, if you want to drive your own motor vehicle and ride your bike,
then come to SW Minnesota and you will have the roads all to yourself
(barring the occasional drunk driver of course - a really big menace on
Saturday nights).

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

"Jeff Grippe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Well first of all there is a beautiful bike path along the Hudson river on
the west side. It goes almost all the way up Manhattan. If I had not
experienced a bike problem at 96th Street I would have riden it all the
way up. It is away from the road, patrolled, and free of traffic (other
than other bikes, hikers, roller blader, etc.)

The best crossover into the Bronx was as I had remembered, the Broadway
Bridge. I ended up riding up Broadway north of 96th Street and the traffic
wasn't too bad.

The really bad news was Broadway (Rt. 9) in Yonkers (and north). It was
very hilly and heavily trafficed. The fact that I had a brake problem that
wasn't easily fixed on the road didn't help.

Jeff

"HHS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

"Jeff Grippe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I realize that a newsgroup is not the best place to go for time sensitive
information but here goes.

I work in Manhattan and live in Westchester. I may have to ride home
today. It has been many years since I rode out of Manhattan and to the
North. I seem to remember taking Broadway all the way up but I don't
remember. Any advice about how to get out of Manhattan on a trike would
be appreciated.

Thanks,

Jeff

From what I remember of Manhattan traffic you are going to have to
convince me you don't have a death wish.

How about riding your tricycle to the train station and use their
facilities to get to work. Personally I would probably want the
convenience of a motor scooter to get to the train station if I didn't
have access to a car.

Seems to me dealing with a tricycle once you get to the train station or
to your work would be problematic.

Naturally I have no clue what the best route would be. I'm just trying
to save lives here.

This is how scofflaw Jeff Grippe should have posted the above message:

Quoted message said:

"HHS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

"Jeff Grippe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I realize that a newsgroup is not the best place to go for time sensitive
information but here goes.

I work in Manhattan and live in Westchester. I may have to ride home
today. It has been many years since I rode out of Manhattan and to the
North. I seem to remember taking Broadway all the way up but I don't
remember. Any advice about how to get out of Manhattan on a trike would
be appreciated.

Thanks,

Jeff

From what I remember of Manhattan traffic you are going to have to
convince me you don't have a death wish.

How about riding your tricycle to the train station and use their
facilities to get to work. Personally I would probably want the
convenience of a motor scooter to get to the train station if I didn't
have access to a car.

Seems to me dealing with a tricycle once you get to the train station or
to your work would be problematic.

Naturally I have no clue what the best route would be. I'm just trying
to save lives here.

"Jeff Grippe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Well first of all there is a beautiful bike path along the Hudson river on
the west side. It goes almost all the way up Manhattan. If I had not
experienced a bike problem at 96th Street I would have riden it all the
way up. It is away from the road, patrolled, and free of traffic (other
than other bikes, hikers, roller blader, etc.)

The best crossover into the Bronx was as I had remembered, the Broadway
Bridge. I ended up riding up Broadway north of 96th Street and the traffic
wasn't too bad.

The really bad news was Broadway (Rt. 9) in Yonkers (and north). It was
very hilly and heavily trafficed. The fact that I had a brake problem that
wasn't easily fixed on the road didn't help.

Jeff

But as usual, Jeff get everything ass backwards. I mean, just how difficult
can it be to post the right way.

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Jeff Grippe said:

Your advice was (I assume) completely accurate and totally useless.

As was the generic subject line of your original post.

"Jeff Grippe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Well first of all there is a beautiful bike path along the Hudson river on
the west side. It goes almost all the way up Manhattan. If I had not
experienced a bike problem at 96th Street I would have riden it all the
way up. It is away from the road, patrolled, and free of traffic (other
than other bikes, hikers, roller blader, etc.)

<snip>

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Jeff

Oh, that must be the bike road that William F. Buckley proposed when he ran
for Mayor way back when against John Linsay. Took a while for it to happen
I guess.

How is the traffic - the walkers, the joggers, the doggers, the bladers,
etc. High density or maybe something less?

I'm kind of curious if you are required to wear a business suit at work,
what you do about showers, and what kind of storage situation you have there
for the trike.

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Jeff Grippe said:

Your advice was (I assume) completely accurate and totally useless.

As was the generic subject line of your original post.

Bravo ab and c! My God, has another intelligent prospective member of ARBR
(even though he has an idiot user name) shown up here at long last.

Any and all messages to ARBR ought to at least make some common sense. We
are Usenet here, not email. I wish I could impress on Jeff Grippe the
difference between the two. He thinks Usenet is just like email, only more
intimate. He does not realize when he posts to ARBR that he is posting to a
universe of unknown readers.

I, of course, realize the importance and significance of ARBR which is why I
always post in such a manner that will engage the maximum number of members.
This is why I call myself Great. I am also a Great Saint too, but that is a
discussion for another day.

Please, everyone, try to take this newsgroup seriously and only post serious
messages like I do.

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

$kip said:

Oh, that must be the bike road that William F. Buckley proposed when he ran
for Mayor way back when against John Linsay....

Who is "John Linsay"? [1]

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I'm kind of curious if you are required to wear a business suit at work,
what you do about showers, and what kind of storage situation you have there
for the trike.

The government should provide heavy tax incentives to provide secure
human powered vehicle (HPV) parking and showers for human powered
commuters. The lost revenue could be made up by taxing automotive
parking spaces, or better yet, and increased inheritance tax. I am sure
$kip would approve of the latter. 😉

[1] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lindsay>.
--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

"We are discussing whether humans as prey are 'natural'. Clearly,
they are, or that mountain lion wouldn't have been trying to eat a
human." - M.V.

Jeff Grippe TOP POSTED:

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You must be a consultant.

Yes, but the hard working, (relatively) low paid kind (in a low profit
margin business).

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Your advice was (I assume) completely accurate and totally useless.

If you move from Manhattan, New York to Manhattan, Illinois, my advice
will become useful. 😉

P.S. Are you still at work?
--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

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How is the traffic - the walkers, the joggers, the doggers, the bladers,
etc. High density or maybe something less?

High density for sure (it is NYC after all) but really quite managable. Most
people understand the rules and the riding was pretty good.

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I'm kind of curious if you are required to wear a business suit at work,
what you do about showers, and what kind of storage situation you have
there for the trike.

I do not ordinarily ride a trike into NYC. It was a special circumstance
that found me with a trike in Manhattan that I needed to get home. I thought
it would be fun to ride it home instead of dragging a car into Manhattan to
pick it up.

Normally I just ride to the train station where there is good bike parking.
I do not wear a suit at work. The company I work for lends money. When you
are the ones lending the money you can wear whatever you want.

Jeff

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"Jeff Grippe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Well first of all there is a beautiful bike path along the Hudson river
on the west side. It goes almost all the way up Manhattan. If I had not
experienced a bike problem at 96th Street I would have riden it all the
way up. It is away from the road, patrolled, and free of traffic (other
than other bikes, hikers, roller blader, etc.)

<snip>

Quoted message said:

Jeff

Oh, that must be the bike road that William F. Buckley proposed when he
ran for Mayor way back when against John Linsay. Took a while for it to
happen I guess.

How is the traffic - the walkers, the joggers, the doggers, the bladers,
etc. High density or maybe something less?

I'm kind of curious if you are required to wear a business suit at work,
what you do about showers, and what kind of storage situation you have
there for the trike.

Jeff Grippe is most likely engaged in manual labor and has no need of
showers. If he can't learn to post properly, how could he ever do anything
that required any brains. No, Jeff Grippe is most likely engaged in sewer
work in the City of New York. Sewers are very important of course, but I
would think such work falls into the category of unskilled labor. He
probably takes a shower when he gets home at night so he can sleep in the
same bed with his wife - if in fact that is what he does. At 250 lbs, he may
very well require his own king size bed in his own king size bedroom.

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

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$kip said:

Oh, that must be the bike road that William F. Buckley proposed when he
ran
for Mayor way back when against John Linsay....

Who is "John Linsay"? [1]

I shall henceforth make it my mission to POUNCE on Tom Sherman for each and
every error that he makes posting to ARBR. It will be my pleasure to perform
this modest service on behalf of the group. You don't think Tom Sherman ever
makes any errors? Think again. I have spotted many over the years. He had
better be very, very careful from here on out. I was not a Great Reader all
my life for nothing.

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Edward Dolan said:

...
Jeff Grippe is most likely engaged in manual labor and has no need of
showers. If he can't learn to post properly, how could he ever do anything
that required any brains. No, Jeff Grippe is most likely engaged in sewer
work in the City of New York. Sewers are very important of course, but I
would think such work falls into the category of unskilled labor....

Prevailing wage for a plumber on a public works project in New York
City is $47.91/hour. I believe, even after adjusting for cost of living
(all else being equal), a person earning that wage could afford to
spend much more on recumbent bicycles and trikes than a community
college librarian in Minnesota (assuming no significant unearned
income).
--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

"We are discussing whether humans as prey are 'natural'. Clearly,
they are, or that mountain lion wouldn't have been trying to eat a
human." - M.V.

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Jeff Grippe said:

Your advice was (I assume) completely accurate and totally useless.

As was the generic subject line of your original post.

True, but I really am a consultant. Occupational habit!

"Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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$kip said:

Oh, that must be the bike road that William F. Buckley proposed when he
ran
for Mayor way back when against John Linsay....

Who is "John Linsay"? [1]

Here's a "d" for you. Insert it where ever it pleases you the most.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I'm kind of curious if you are required to wear a business suit at work,
what you do about showers, and what kind of storage situation you have
there
for the trike.

The government should provide heavy tax incentives to provide secure
human powered vehicle (HPV) parking and showers for human powered
commuters. The lost revenue could be made up by taxing automotive
parking spaces, or better yet, and increased inheritance tax. I am sure
$kip would approve of the latter. 😉

Why should the government tax its citizens to put a shower in in a private
business for your benefit?

It should be noted here that as long as someone can be taxed to pay for the
things Tom wants he thinks the world is just. His favorite tax, naturally,
is on the dead because they are no longer able to fight back.

"Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

The government should provide heavy tax incentives to provide secure
human powered vehicle (HPV) parking and showers for human powered
commuters. The lost revenue could be made up by taxing automotive
parking spaces, or better yet, and increased inheritance tax. I am sure
$kip would approve of the latter. 😉

That and "urban rail trails" that are graded. The ride I did on Broadway
through Yonkers, Ardsley, ... up to Tarrytown was hill after hill. I will
never "commute" to NYC by trike again but if there were HPV parking,
showers, and a well graded path then I could actually consider the 70 mile
round trip during most of the spring and fall.

Jeff

"skip" <[email hidden]> wrote

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"Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic" <[email hidden]> wrote

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The government should provide heavy tax incentives to provide secure
human powered vehicle (HPV) parking and showers for human powered
commuters. [...]

Why should the government tax its citizens to put a shower in a private
business for your benefit?

The public benefit of showers for bike commuters should not
be underestimated. %^P

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His favorite tax, naturally,
is on the dead because they are no longer able to fight back.

Actually on the unrealized capital gains when transferred by
inheritance. What is the net present value of a sunset or
a Sunset? Priceless, both, in the eye of the beholder.

The real question is who is named in Tom's will to inherit
the Sunsets. Is it true he has a bumper sticker that says,
"You can have my bike when you pry my cold dead fingers
from the handlebars..." ?

Jon Meinecke
I bike, therefore I am.