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  1. Hi all,

    (Very long post, sorry, I didn't know how to make it more concise!)

    A few good years ago, I bought myself a Specialized FSR 1999
    (http://www.epinions.com/bike-Bicycles-All-82379-Specialized_FSR__1999/display_~full_specs),
    decided to do some mountain biking. It was my first bike and my first
    experience with mountain biking.

    The problem was none of my friends did it, so I was stuck alone, mostly
    having fun in some rough plains outside my city. Finally, I got tired
    and started looking for a mountain bike club in Montreal.

    The guys I met were most helpful, I rode with them only a couple of
    times and then had an accident to one of my knees because of the bike
    (and other fators). I lost touch with them after leaving the country
    for a few years and now their web page says "Last updated, December
    2001" and the e-mail address is not responding.

    Now I'm back, and I'd love to take my bike out in the mountains, but
    I'm still a "newbie" when it comes to taking care of it, fixing it,
    fine-tuning it. I have a couple of questions:

    I brought the bike to a shop to give it a tune-up, and after charging
    me 75$, I discovered they didn't do anything. We argued over it, but
    after keeping it a further 2 weeks, the bike was in the same condition,
    less some grease over the gears to show me they have touched it. The
    problem I discovered this weekend is that the rear derailer (Shimano
    Deore LX SGS) is no longer able to use the largest sprockets. Besides,
    I have to push the gear lever for the front derailer one time and a
    half (so two pushes) to make it switch gears.

    I can bring it to another shop, but frankly the idea of risking another
    episode of "We fixed it! - No you didn't!" and lose some more money,
    I'd love to get my own hands into this and become self-sufficient.

    What I was wondering is if I can find out some information about how to
    fine tune the derailers/etc. so that they work as they did in the
    beginning (I was most pleased with how fast and painless the gears were
    changing).

    Of course, I'm all ears if you say "bring it to a shop, because..." and
    list the possible things that can go wrong while I try to fix it, or
    list some of the things I would want to let a professional fix it.

    Another thing is, I wanted to replace the brakes on the stock bike and
    get some disk brakes. I know it's relatively easy to do it for the
    front wheel, but it seems my rear-frame doesn't support disk brakes. I
    found out there's an adapter from Specialized (specifically for the FSR
    1999/2000 models) but I can no longer find it in any shops around me,
    nor can they order it for me it seems. Do you have any suggestions?

    The last thing is more of an invitation to people biking in Montreal to
    take me with them 🙂 I'm a bit of a beginner and right now I am
    completely out of shape, but hope to change that again.

  2. "Alex" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hi all,

    Zinn and the Art of Mountain Bike Maintenance - get the book and a set of
    tools.

  3. Alex said:


    What I was wondering is if I can find out some information about how to
    fine tune the derailers/etc. so that they work as they did in the
    beginning (I was most pleased with how fast and painless the gears were
    changing).

    Start here: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/
    and here: http://www.parktool.com/repair/

    Quoted message said:


    Another thing is, I wanted to replace the brakes on the stock bike and
    get some disk brakes. I know it's relatively easy to do it for the
    front wheel, but it seems my rear-frame doesn't support disk brakes. I
    found out there's an adapter from Specialized (specifically for the FSR
    1999/2000 models) but I can no longer find it in any shops around me,
    nor can they order it for me it seems. Do you have any suggestions?

    While there are aftermarket add-on gimmicks (I had two of them), they
    don't work.

    Quoted message said:

    --
    o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
    www.schnauzers.ws

  4. Alex said:

    Hi all,
    Another thing is, I wanted to replace the brakes on the stock bike and
    get some disk brakes. I know it's relatively easy to do it for the
    front wheel, but it seems my rear-frame doesn't support disk brakes. I
    found out there's an adapter from Specialized (specifically for the FSR
    1999/2000 models) but I can no longer find it in any shops around me,
    nor can they order it for me it seems. Do you have any suggestions?

    The last thing is more of an invitation to people biking in Montreal to
    take me with them 🙂 I'm a bit of a beginner and right now I am
    completely out of shape, but hope to change that again.

    I'm not knowledgable enought to comment on you brake/mechanic problem
    specifically, although I think you would also need a new hub/wheelset
    on a bike that old to convert to disk brakes.

    Penny's suggestion is a good one. As I recall, she has pretty much
    taught herself how to repair/replace most parts on her bike using a
    book, her common sense, and some advice from folks on this newsgroup.

    I also suggest you check out the MEC store in Montreal. They might
    very well have some cheap/free to members basic bike repair classes. I
    know the US equals (REI and EMS do). At the very least, there should
    be someone there who can point you to a lcoal bike club if the local
    club does not have a brochure on the cummunity bulletin board at MEC.

    TS

  5. small change said:

    Zinn and the Art of Mountain Bike Maintenance - get the book and a set of
    tools.

    Second that. Learning to fix your bike is much, much better than taking it
    to the shop. Not only does it get the bike tuned up for less money, you
    get a better understanding of how everything works and are better able to
    fix things on the trail. Zinn is as good a book as any I've seen.

    It also gives you a chance to try out with the tools you'll use on the
    trail. You might be amazed at how poorly some multi-tools work!

    About the brake, you might consider just having a disk brake in the front.
    Thats where some 70% of the stopping power is anyway.

    --
    -BB-
    To e-mail me, unmunge my address

  6. Alex said:

    I brought the bike to a shop to give it a tune-up, and after charging
    me 75$, I discovered they didn't do anything. We argued over it, but
    after keeping it a further 2 weeks, the bike was in the same condition,
    less some grease over the gears to show me they have touched it. The
    problem I discovered this weekend is that the rear derailer (Shimano
    Deore LX SGS) is no longer able to use the largest sprockets. Besides,
    I have to push the gear lever for the front derailer one time and a
    half (so two pushes) to make it switch gears.

    Since you are a newbie, there's a chance you wouldn't be able to notice
    all or any of the things they did to the bike. Tune-ups are minor
    adjustments & greasing the easy-to-reach parts. Thorough shops will wipe
    your bike clean for you, but if it's already clean... When I take my
    bike for a tune, there might (or not) be something in particular that I
    know needs adjusting or fixing, and I can spot those. Sometimes it's
    just a de rigeur shop visit.

    There's also a chance the shop did crappy work.

    Your rear derailleur problem is common and typically requires a screw
    turn. A good shop should be willing to make that adjustment for free
    especially if your tune-up was recent.

    Your front derailleur "issue" is normal when shifting to a larger cog.
    Shifting up always takes a bigger push.

    --
    Lynn Wallace http://www.xmission.com/~lawall
    I have nothing but contempt and anger for those who betray the
    trust by exposing the name of our sources. They are, in my view,
    the most insidious of traitors."
    George H.W. Bush, April 16, 1999,

  7. Thank you all for the responses.

    I checked out the Park Tool website, and I think this will help me fix
    the derailleur problem. From what I was able to asses on the trail, and
    have it almost confirmed by the website, it's just cable tension, but I
    had no tools to fix that on the spot - which means I messed up with
    some other screws that I was able to turn with my hand. Hopefully, I
    can put things back in order 🙂 Last night I went out and bought me a
    set of tools that I think will be enough to do most of the jobs I want
    (I'll upgrade as needed).

    I'll deffinitely check out the Zinn book, there's a shop selling it
    abot 15 minutes walk from my work.

    Ride-A-Lot said:

    While there are aftermarket add-on gimmicks [_disk brake adapters_] (I had two of
    them), they don't work.

    What exactly doesn't work for them? I googled a bit more for adapters
    and found this Therapy Components adapter that had good reviews, with
    one person saying it broke their frame (which in my
    not-so-knowleadgeable oppinion could only happen at an extreme speed
    with a sudden brake?), rear wheel is slightly harder to get in and out
    and there might be a little play when you break.

    I am tempted to look for one, but I want to know what makes you say
    they don't work before I make up my mind and dish out the money.

    I know I also have to change the hubs, and I think the total price for
    changing the brake system on my bike would come up to a pretty
    expensive 4-500$ or more, which is quite a lot of money for how long I
    make use of the bike. I did think of only installing the front wheel
    brake.

    troutboy said:

    I also suggest you check out the MEC store in Montreal. They might
    very well have some cheap/free to members basic bike repair classes. I
    know the US equals (REI and EMS do). At the very least, there should
    be someone there who can point you to a lcoal bike club if the local
    club does not have a brochure on the cummunity bulletin board at MEC.

    Yup, found out they're in Montreal too and I think I'll pay them a
    visit. I incidentally found out the old club I knew just changed names
    and websites, but still exists.

    Raptor said:

    Since you are a newbie, there's a chance you wouldn't be able to notice
    all or any of the things they did to the bike.

    I'm perfectly aware it is possible that I didn't notice all the things.
    As a matter of fact, I took at look at the bike last night and I
    noticed they got the breaks aligned properly (I remember having twisted
    one of them in a fall) and fixed the tension for the front wheel. I'm
    just a bit surprised that the rear derailleur cable got loose so fast
    after the tuneup.

    Raptor said:

    Your front derailleur "issue" is normal when shifting to a larger cog.
    Shifting up always takes a bigger push.


    I thought I remembered having to only push once to change from the
    smallest cog to the second one, and only on occasion having to do a 1
    1/2 push for the largest cog. It was one of the things I noticed as
    soon as I bought the bike, as anything I had before this bike would
    require me to do the 1 1/2 push. I'll see if I can play around with it
    and get it to work as before, if not, this is a smaller issue.

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