HELP: liver/kidney troubles

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Subject: HELP: liver/kidney troubles
From: [email hidden] (Kevin Cheng)
Date: 6/14/2004 6:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time
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I need advice on the restoration/rebuilding of my liver and
kidneys. I had 3,4 blood tests over the past couple of
months and all the results were sky high.

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I haven't told my doctor about my past steroid taking or

return to your doc PRONTO and confess past steroid
transgressions...

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The fact is that I am on prescription of a mild dose
(250mg) of antibiotics ( for mild ance) and another for my
anti-ich, and another for my depression. I think these are
enough for my liver

It is impossible to state what effects these three meds can
have on your liver...likely all three need to be stopped
until your "skyhigh" enzymes return to normal...

do not waste time on newsgroups seeking an easy
answer...livers can heal..but only by removing the offending
substances..

you may still be taking some...

hawki.....

You are probably celiac.

"Kevin Cheng" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Dear people

I am 23 years old male and ethnic origin chinese but born
and brought up

in UK.

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I took 2 or 3 anabolic dianabol steroid tablets a day for
roughly two

weeks

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last year. I then found alternatives called RipFast
(www.ripfast.com) and changed my muscle building daily
intake to their products (which consisted

of

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more tablets (similar to anabolic dianabol steroids)) -
reason for all

this was

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to impress and protect my girlfriend - I am a weakling
with muscles small compared to average 23 year old males.
I also was a fan of many

high-strength

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vitamin tablets like Berroca (1667% RDA for various vits)
and took them everyday. Now I stopped everything once I
realised the damaging effects on

my

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liver and kidneys.

I need advice on the restoration/rebuilding of my liver
and kidneys. I had

3,4

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blood tests over the past couple of months and all the
results were sky

high.

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Abnormal values for certain zymines (or whatever they
are). I haven't told

my

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doctor about my past steroid taking or muscle-building
product/tablets. The fact is that I am on prescription of
a mild dose (250mg) of

antibiotics (

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for mild ance) and another for my anti-ich, and another
for my depression.

I

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think these are enough for my liver.

I am wondering if someone can give me advice on
meat/vegetables/fruits

which

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are strong and good for the liver/kidneys to heal/rebuild.
How about red

wine?

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Is it true it's good for the liver? I know I have been
stupid with these

drugs

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(good and bad). I have learnt my lesson. Please help me.
Also I have been feeling pains in the lower right.

"Gymmy Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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You are probably celiac.

What's celiac?

You definitely are a moron.

This jerk took steroids and has liver problems.

"Gymmy Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bJSdnXSUwrjxIlPdRVn-
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You are probably celiac.

"Kevin Cheng" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Dear people

I am 23 years old male and ethnic origin chinese but
born and brought up

in UK.

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I took 2 or 3 anabolic dianabol steroid tablets a day
for roughly two

weeks

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last year. I then found alternatives called RipFast
(www.ripfast.com)

and

Quoted message said:

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changed my muscle building daily intake to their
products (which

consisted

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of

Quoted message said:

more tablets (similar to anabolic dianabol steroids)) -
reason for all

this was

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to impress and protect my girlfriend - I am a weakling
with muscles

small

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compared to average 23 year old males. I also was a fan
of many

high-strength

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vitamin tablets like Berroca (1667% RDA for various
vits) and took them everyday. Now I stopped everything
once I realised the damaging effects

on

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my

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liver and kidneys.

I need advice on the restoration/rebuilding of my liver
and kidneys. I

had

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3,4

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blood tests over the past couple of months and all the
results were sky

high.

Quoted message said:

Abnormal values for certain zymines (or whatever they
are). I haven't

told

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my

Quoted message said:

doctor about my past steroid taking or muscle-building
product/tablets. The fact is that I am on prescription
of a mild dose (250mg) of

antibiotics (

Quoted message said:

for mild ance) and another for my anti-ich, and another
for my

depression.

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I

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think these are enough for my liver.

I am wondering if someone can give me advice on
meat/vegetables/fruits

which

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are strong and good for the liver/kidneys to
heal/rebuild. How about red

wine?

Quoted message said:

Is it true it's good for the liver? I know I have been
stupid with these

drugs

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(good and bad). I have learnt my lesson. Please help me.
Also I have

been

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feeling pains in the lower right.

You need to look it up. You have internet access, do you
not?

"Kevin Cheng" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Gymmy Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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You are probably celiac.

What's celiac?

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Subject: Re: liver/kidney troubles
From: "Gymmy Bob" [email hidden]
Date: 6/15/2004 2:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

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You are probably celiac.

this is what scares me about this group!!!

a poster comes on and admits to taking heavy duty anabolic
steroids...and that his liver enzymes are "sky high" and
someone jumps in with a diagnosis

HELLLLOOOOO.....what about the drugs he has been taking??

the only advice for this kid is to return to doc
ASAP...admit the steroids..and be evaluated to eliminate at
least for awhile ANY meds that can further tax the liver....

hawki.....

It wasn't a dark and stormy night when Kevin Cheng said:

Thanks for all your help. I spoken to my doctor and told
him about my past steroid taking. He's told me to stop all
medications (anti-biotics, and prozac). Just wait 2,3
weeks for another liver/kidney test - my last one was just
slightly worst than previous one.

That's great to hear, how did he take it? Hopefully your
next test will have better results. Did your doctor say
anything about seeing a specialist, maybe depending upon the
results of your next test or give you any idea of what he
thought further treatment would entail?

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I still didn't get any advice on eating. But I will seek a
qualified herbalist for some liver/kidney healing stuff
(milk thistle, etc) - and I'll try and get a juicer and
make lots of juices.

I'm wondering whether maybe a good dietitian would be of any
help in determining what foods you should and shouldn't eat?
Just a thought...

Anyway, good luck!

Vashti

Thanks for all your help. I spoken to my doctor and told him
about my past steroid taking. He's told me to stop all
medications (anti-biotics, and prozac). Just wait 2,3 weeks
for another liver/kidney test - my last one was just
slightly worst than previous one.

I still didn't get any advice on eating. But I will seek a
qualified herbalist for some liver/kidney healing stuff
(milk thistle, etc) - and I'll try and get a juicer and make
lots of juices.