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  1. -I love mild chilli Nalley or Staggs canned/tinned chilli with beef
    (presumably ground) but I can't make it remotely similar. Truth be
    known, I can't make chilli. It is always watery/soupy and bad tasting.

    -Does anybody have a recipe or know of a website where I can find a fake
    recipe for these products.

    -Your direction or help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.

    -I have an electric meat grinder so I will grind my own beef.

    -I am uncomfortable with using commerial ground meat as it starts with a
    shovel with meat from unknown places. It is the same reason I don't
    want to treat myself to canned chilli very often.

    -In the States I paid 1.59 a can of Staggs mild chilli and the same can
    in Canada is 3.50.

  2. "A Concerned [email hidden]" <"A Concerned
    Citizen"@concernedcitizen.com> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    -I love mild chilli Nalley or Staggs canned/tinned chilli with beef
    (presumably ground) but I can't make it remotely similar. Truth be
    known, I can't make chilli. It is always watery/soupy and bad tasting.

    Staggs is the worst garbage on earth. It is laundry starch with a slight
    chili flavor and adulterated with bell pepper.

    You probably ended up with a superior chili by accident simply by putting
    together reasonable ingredients (omitting the artificial thickeners and
    emulsifiers Staggs cooks up in their laboratory) and cooking them for a
    while.

    Watery is not necessarily bad chili. If you want thick, you can add beans
    and cook them down (takes a while). Good chili is easy to make. It takes
    only a few ingredients; various meats, water, ground chili, cumin, tomato
    sauce, but it is good to cook it for a long time. There is much added to it
    to make a more complex chili; tomatoes, onions, various beans. You can add
    cheese and other toppings when you serve it.

    If you want a recipe for Staggs chili, it was at the beginning of my post.
    I will repeat:

    Put 1/2 gallon of laundry starch in a pot. Wave a teaspoon of chili powder
    over the pot a couple of times and return it to its container. Chop a half
    dozen bell peppers and add them to the pot. When it is done, throw it in
    the garbage where it belongs.

    Mitch

  3. "A Concerned [email hidden]" <"A Concerned
    Citizen"@concernedcitizen.com> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:

    -I love mild chilli Nalley or Staggs canned/tinned chilli with
    beef (presumably ground) but I can't make it remotely similar.

    UGH. I have yet to find a good 'canned' chili. UGH!

    Maybe this would be close to what you want.

    http://www.recipezaar.com/246570

    Or look through more here.
    http://www.recipezaar.com/recipes/chili

    Keep cooking. You will eventually find the recipe that comes
    close to the taste you are wanting.

  4. On Aug 27, 1:08 am, "A Concerned [email hidden]" <"A

    Concerned Citizen'@concernedcitizen.com said:

    -I love mild chilli Nalley or Staggs canned/tinned chilli with beef
    (presumably ground) but I can't make it remotely similar. Truth be
    known, I can't make chilli. It is always watery/soupy and bad tasting.

    -Does anybody have a recipe or know of a website where I can find a fake
    recipe for these products.

    -Your direction or help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.

    -I have an electric meat grinder so I will grind my own beef.

    -I am uncomfortable with using commerial ground meat as it starts with a
    shovel with meat from unknown places. It is the same reason I don't
    want to treat myself to canned chilli very often.

    -In the States I paid 1.59 a can of Staggs mild chilli and the same can
    in Canada is 3.50.

    Go to the grocery store and buy chili mix. I find it in the aisle
    with spices,
    although your grocery store may stock it elsewhere.

    The brands in my grocery store are French's and McCormick's. Follow
    the instructions on the packet and I'm pretty sure you'll get what
    you're
    looking for.

    Cindy Hamilton

  5. A Concerned 'A Concerned Citizen'@concernedcitizen.com said:

    -Does anybody have a recipe or know of a website where I can find a fake
    recipe for these products.

    Chili is pretty easy to make. If you need a little help, try Carroll
    Shelby's Original Texas Brand Chili Kit. You add meat, tomato paste,
    and beans (opt) and it provides the spices and a little packet of masa
    to thicken your chili. It's also an easy way to get your
    do-it-yourelf (DIY) feet wet. You also control how hot it is. Once
    you do it this way, you'll see just how simple it is and can then come
    up with a variation of your own. As other's have already agreed,
    homemade chili is infinitely superior to anything you'll find in a
    can. Good luck.

    http://www.carrollshelby.com/chili.htm#

    nb

  6. Mitch Scherer said:

    "A Concerned [email hidden]" <"A ConcernedCitizen"@concernedcitizen.com> wrote in message

    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    -I love mild chilli Nalley or Staggs canned/tinned chilli with beef
    (presumably ground) but I can't make it remotely similar. Truth be
    known, I can't make chilli. It is always watery/soupy and bad tasting.

    Staggs is the worst garbage on earth. It is laundry starch with a slight
    chili flavor and adulterated with bell pepper.


    Stagg is really awful. It is candy sweet. I bought some on sale and
    threw it out.

    Quoted message said:


    Mitch

    --Bryan

  7. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Bobo Bonobo(R) said:
    Mitch Scherer said:

    "A Concerned [email hidden]" <"A
    ConcernedCitizen"@concernedcitizen.com> wrote in message

    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    -I love mild chilli Nalley or Staggs canned/tinned chilli with beef
    (presumably ground) but I can't make it remotely similar. Truth be
    known, I can't make chilli. It is always watery/soupy and bad tasting.

    Staggs is the worst garbage on earth. It is laundry starch with a slight
    chili flavor and adulterated with bell pepper.


    Stagg is really awful. It is candy sweet. I bought some on sale and
    threw it out.

    Quoted message said:


    Mitch

    --Bryan

    If one MUST use canned chili, at least use Hormel!
    I've used it for camping when making chili from scratch was not
    practical.

    When at home? No way! It's just not that hard to make.

    Don't ask me for a recipe. I make up chili as I go along depending on my
    mood but base ingredients include ground beef and/or pork (pre-cooked
    and drained of fat), whatever stock is handy, chili powder, tomato
    paste, garlic, onions, lemon pepper, cumin, sage, rosemary, thyme,
    mexican oregano (all herbs fresh from the live herb garden).

    Salt to taste.

    I may or may not add beans. Depends on whether or not it's a topping or
    an entree'.

    Black soy beans. They are low carb.
    --
    Peace, Om

    Remove _ to validate e-mails.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]" -- Jack Nicholson

  8. A Concerned said:

    -I love mild chilli Nalley or Staggs canned/tinned chilli with beef
    (presumably ground) but I can't make it remotely similar. Truth be
    known, I can't make chilli. It is always watery/soupy and bad tasting.

    -Does anybody have a recipe or know of a website where I can find a fake
    recipe for these products.

    -Your direction or help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.

    -I have an electric meat grinder so I will grind my own beef.

    -I am uncomfortable with using commerial ground meat as it starts with a
    shovel with meat from unknown places. It is the same reason I don't
    want to treat myself to canned chilli very often.

    -In the States I paid 1.59 a can of Staggs mild chilli and the same can
    in Canada is 3.50.

    2lbs beef
    1/2 onion
    4 cloves garlic
    2 cans(14oz) dices tomatoes, undrained
    1 can kidney beans, drained
    1 can pinto beans, drained
    1 small(8oz) can tomato sauce
    1 cup water
    between 2 and 3 tbs chili powder
    1 tbs cumin
    1 tbs paprika
    between 1 tsp - 1 tbs salt
    1 tsp garlic powder
    a dash of oregano
    if you like some heat then 1 tsp - 2 tsp cayenne powder

    brown beef in onion
    when beef is almost brown add garlic cloves
    add remaining items and simmer for a few hours

  9. Scott wrote on Mon, 27 Aug 2007 09:29:31 -0500:

    S> A Concerned [email hidden] wrote:
    ??>> -I love mild chilli Nalley or Staggs canned/tinned chilli
    ??>> with beef (presumably ground) but I can't make it remotely
    ??>> similar. Truth be known, I can't make chilli. It is
    ??>> always watery/soupy and bad tasting.
    ??>>
    ??>> -Does anybody have a recipe or know of a website where I
    ??>> can find a fake recipe for these products.
    ??>>
    ??>> -Your direction or help is appreciated. Thanks in
    ??>> advance.
    ??>>
    ??>> -I have an electric meat grinder so I will grind my own
    ??>> beef.
    ??>>
    ??>> -I am uncomfortable with using commerial ground meat as it
    ??>> starts with a shovel with meat from unknown places. It is
    ??>> the same reason I don't want to treat myself to canned
    ??>> chilli very often.
    ??>>
    ??>> -In the States I paid 1.59 a can of Staggs mild chilli and
    ??>> the same can in Canada is 3.50.

    S> 2lbs beef
    S> 1/2 onion
    S> 4 cloves garlic
    S> 2 cans(14oz) dices tomatoes, undrained
    S> 1 can kidney beans, drained
    S> 1 can pinto beans, drained
    S> 1 small(8oz) can tomato sauce
    S> 1 cup water
    S> between 2 and 3 tbs chili powder
    S> 1 tbs cumin
    S> 1 tbs paprika
    S> between 1 tsp - 1 tbs salt
    S> 1 tsp garlic powder
    S> a dash of oregano
    S> if you like some heat then 1 tsp - 2 tsp cayenne powder

    The recipe seems fine, apart from the paprika that can have very
    little effect IMHO, but I invariably add a table spoon of cocoa
    and at least six chopped tomatilloes. I have to admit that when
    I make chilli I do it by inspection and tasting so the recipe
    depends a bit on my mood and I quite often leave out the beans
    but may serve them on top of the chilli.

    James Silverton
    Potomac, Maryland

    E-mail, with obvious alterations:
    not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

  10. Omelet said:

    If one MUST use canned chili, at least use Hormel!

    Gak! Hormel is even worse than Stagg. Try Dennison's. Their
    "fat-free" turkey chili is actaully edible. Got a bit o' heat, too,
    though I always add a few shots of my beloved Cholula, anyway. That
    said, here's a hot tip:

    Need an emergency chip dip? ConAgra saves the day. Get a can of
    Dennison's no-beans chili and put it in a saucepan with an 8oz block
    of cream cheese and heat just enough to melt together. Voilà! A
    killer chip dip I gar-own-tee will get raves. ("Ooooh... nb, how many
    hours did you slave over a hot stove to make this absolutely fantastic
    dip....?"😉. Honest!

    nb

  11. "notbob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Need an emergency chip dip? ConAgra saves the day. Get a can of
    Dennison's no-beans chili and put it in a saucepan with an 8oz block
    of cream cheese and heat just enough to melt together. Voilà! A
    killer chip dip I gar-own-tee will get raves. ("Ooooh... nb, how many
    hours did you slave over a hot stove to make this absolutely fantastic
    dip....?"😉. Honest!

    Very similar to a dip my daughter and her friends like. They can devour
    this with a bag of tortilla chips before you know it: One 8 ounce tub of
    cream cheese spread on the bottom of a 9x9 glass baking dish, One can of
    Dennison's chili w/o beans spread over the cream cheese, and One package (2
    cups?) of shredded cheddar cheese layered over the chili. Microwave until
    the cheese melts and the chili and cream cheese are heated through.

    Sharon

  12. James Silverton said:


    The recipe seems fine, apart from the paprika that can have very little
    effect IMHO, but I invariably add a table spoon of cocoa and at least
    six chopped tomatilloes. I have to admit that when I make chilli I do it
    by inspection and tasting so the recipe depends a bit on my mood and I
    quite often leave out the beans but may serve them on top of the chilli.

    James Silverton
    Potomac, Maryland

    E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

    Cocoa!! I don't know about that. I think the paprika adds more coloring
    then it does flavor. One day I'm going to add some beer to my chili.
    I've been working on this recipe for a few years now tweaking it a
    little at a time. Something else I want to try is adding some whole
    jalapenos without breaking them up and then remove. Sorta like using a
    bay leave.

  13. On Aug 27, 1:08?am, "A Concerned [email hidden]" <"A

    Concerned Citizen'@concernedcitizen.com said:

    -I love mild chilli Nalley or Staggs canned/tinned chilli with beef
    (presumably ground) but I can't make it remotely similar. Truth be
    known, I can't make chilli. It is always watery/soupy and bad tasting.

    -Does anybody have a recipe or know of a website where I can find a fake
    recipe for these products.

    -Your direction or help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.

    If you already "love" the canned stuff then why bother... making
    really good chili is a ton of work and takes all day tending a pot...
    people telling you that chili is easy and takes no time are making
    what amounts to canned, not even as good.

    If you want the very best chili possible use my recipe... search for
    it...someone may post it... or find it in the rfc cookbook.

    Sheldon

  14. Scott said:

    One day I'm going to add some beer to my chili.
    I've been working on this recipe for a few years now tweaking it a
    little at a time. Something else I want to try is adding some whole
    jalapenos without breaking them up and then remove. Sorta like using a
    bay leave.

    Sam Arnold's "Historic Jailhouse Chili"
    from "The Fort" restaurant in the foothills overlooking Denver

    6 slices bacon
    1/2 lb hot bulk pork sausage
    2 pounds ground chili beef or
    chopped stew meat
    1 cup of chopped onions
    2 mashed garlic cloves
    2/3 cup chopped red or green pepper
    4 tablespoons pure New Mexico red chili powder
    2 teaspons of cilantro
    1 teaspoon or leaf oregano
    1/2 teaspoon cumin seed
    2 cans of beer (bottled brown ale is best)
    1 12-oz can of tomato paste
    3 cups cooked anasazi or pinto beans (canned beans may be used, but
    they're not nearly as good as cooking them from scratch!)

    Preparation:
    Cook bacon crisp, drain, cool and crumble, set aside. Brown sausage,
    drain, set aside. Keep 1/4 cup of the fat. Brown ground beef. Cook
    pepper, garlic and onion and combine with cooked beef, sausage. Add beer
    and tomato paste, and simmer at low heat (200 degree F) for two hours.
    Add beans, cook 20 minutes longer and serve with shredded cheese and
    chopped onion over the top. If you like it hotter, add finely minced
    serrano chilies (not jalapenos).

    I have made this dozens of times, with variations, and it's terrific.
    It often needs the addition of some cayenne for heat.

    Sam Arnold was a real character who built "The Fort" as a historic
    reproduction of Bent's Fort and served presidents to popes with game
    meats and things like rattlesnake, peanut butter stuffed jalapeno
    poppers, Rocky Mt. oysters, and a killer chocolate dessert called a
    "Negrita"--chocolate mousse in a thick chocolate shell.

    He often prowled the restaurant in mountain trapper garb, reciting a
    special toast, ending in "Waaauuuuugh!"

    gloria p

  15. notbob said:

    Need an emergency chip dip? ConAgra saves the day. Get a can of
    Dennison's no-beans chili and put it in a saucepan with an 8oz block
    of cream cheese and heat just enough to melt together. Voilà! A
    killer chip dip I gar-own-tee will get raves.

    Did you get that from me? I've bee doing that for over 20 years
    and have mentioned it here and ba.food several times.

    Unfortunately we don't get Dennison's here in Texas since the
    Governor Bush declared Wolf the official chili of Texas.

    I miss Dennison's Lime Beans with Ham sauce, too.

    -sw

  16. In article <[email hidden]>,

    notbob said:
    Omelet said:

    If one MUST use canned chili, at least use Hormel!

    Gak! Hormel is even worse than Stagg. Try Dennison's. Their
    "fat-free" turkey chili is actaully edible. Got a bit o' heat, too,
    though I always add a few shots of my beloved Cholula, anyway. That
    said, here's a hot tip:

    Need an emergency chip dip? ConAgra saves the day. Get a can of
    Dennison's no-beans chili and put it in a saucepan with an 8oz block
    of cream cheese and heat just enough to melt together. Voilà! A
    killer chip dip I gar-own-tee will get raves. ("Ooooh... nb, how many
    hours did you slave over a hot stove to make this absolutely fantastic
    dip....?"😉. Honest!

    nb

    Chip dip:

    Crock Pot
    Velveeta
    Ro-tel

    http://www.mygiftsolutions.com/shop-owner/33/site22/web/Rotel/main.htm

    I have a friend tho' that substitutes cream cheese for the Velveeta.

    It's tasty. ;-d
    --
    Peace, Om

    Remove _ to validate e-mails.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]" -- Jack Nicholson

  17. Omelet said:


    Chip dip:

    Crock Pot
    Velveeta
    Ro-tel

    http://www.mygiftsolutions.com/shop-owner/33/site22/web/Rotel/main.htm

    I have a friend tho' that substitutes cream cheese for the Velveeta.

    It's tasty. ;-d

    Try using American cheese slices instead of Velveeta. It only takes
    about 12 ounces of real cheese per can of Rotel instead of a whole pound
    of Velveeta. I buy 5# blocks of American cheese slices (not
    individually wrapped) at Sam's Club.

    Bob

  18. In article <[email hidden]>,

    zxcvbob said:
    Omelet said:


    Chip dip:

    Crock Pot
    Velveeta
    Ro-tel

    http://www.mygiftsolutions.com/shop-owner/33/site22/web/Rotel/main.htm

    I have a friend tho' that substitutes cream cheese for the Velveeta.

    It's tasty. ;-d

    Try using American cheese slices instead of Velveeta. It only takes
    about 12 ounces of real cheese per can of Rotel instead of a whole pound
    of Velveeta. I buy 5# blocks of American cheese slices (not
    individually wrapped) at Sam's Club.

    Bob

    I'll pass that on to Lynn'.
    --
    Peace, Om

    Remove _ to validate e-mails.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]" -- Jack Nicholson

  19. Steve Wertz said:

    Unfortunately we don't get Dennison's here in Texas since the
    Governor Bush declared Wolf the official chili of Texas.

    It's funny, I'd heard so much about Wolf (Wolf's?) chili. They finally
    started carrying it here, and I was pretty disappointed in it. I
    haven't tried Dennison's.

    Still the best canned to my taste is Chilli Man. It's not what it was,
    back when it was made by Joe DeFrates. He sold it to Milnot and they've
    degraded the recipe a few times. It's still not bad though.

    Brian

    --
    If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
    won't shut up.
    -- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

  20. notbob said:
    Omelet said:

    If one MUST use canned chili, at least use Hormel!

    Gak! Hormel is even worse than Stagg.

    You're right, "Hormel is even worse than Stagg." Armour is bad too.
    For canned chili, Chilli Man Lean Beef variety is passable.

    Quoted message said:

    Try Dennison's. Their
    "fat-free" turkey chili is actaully edible. Got a bit o' heat, too,
    though I always add a few shots of my beloved Cholula, anyway. That
    said, here's a hot tip:

    Cholula on fried chicken, OK, but in chili? No thanks. No vinegar in
    my chili.

    Quoted message said:


    Need an emergency chip dip? ConAgra saves the day. Get a can of
    Dennison's no-beans chili and put it in a saucepan with an 8oz block
    of cream cheese and heat just enough to melt together. Voilà! A
    killer chip dip I gar-own-tee will get raves. ("Ooooh... nb, how many
    hours did you slave over a hot stove to make this absolutely fantastic
    dip....?"😉. Honest!

    A good appetizer before the possum stew?
    Sandra Lee would appreciate your recipe.

    Quoted message said:


    nb

    --Bryan

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