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Grater said:

I'm trying to find the topic that was around when OP came out which had all the code names of the riders. Anyone know where it is. I can't find it anywhere.

don't worry Grates. All the TMobile riders went to Freiburg. They did not confiscate the blood at Freiburg.

Grater said:

I'm trying to find the topic that was around when OP came out which had all the code names of the riders. Anyone know where it is. I can't find it anywhere.

Lifted from elsewhere;

[font=Trebuchet MS]List of some new suspected names (so far not implicated officialy):
[/font]Recently we learned that the Spanish court has written 6000 more pages, where additional riders are supposed to be identified. We havent yet recieved any new information about additional names. So I will just post all the old information about additional names, that has been reported by several journalists and newspapers.

Popovych (Discovery): -codename "popo" written on backside of a hotel card, where Fuentes allegedly doped several riders.
Vinokourov (Astana): -codename "vino" written on backside of a hotel card, where Fuentes allegedly doped several riders.
Mayo (Saunier Duval): -mentioned in a budget paper made by Fuentes with the codename "Ivan May".
Valverde (Caisse d’Epargne): -blood bag found with EPO, name written on backside of hotel card, and mentioned in the budget paper.


Then we have some "codenames" not identified in the first report. Some of these riders might already be on the identified list, since Fuentes sometimes used more than 1 codename for the same rider. Below is the entire list of names, where we so far only have speculation on the identity (but please note, that all blue names are now considered to be more or less certain):

* Cowboy (2003) –could this be Armstrong (many has earlier called him a Cowboy, because he lives in Texas and owns a ranch)?
* Panticosa (2003) –It’s a mountain town with 600 inhabitants, build around an alpine ski resort (located in Aragon-Huesca province)
* Pavarotti (2003) –could this be Cipollini (because he was a very “loud speaking” man from Italy)?
* Pepito (2003) –Manzano mentioned a rider called “Pepito Flores” (Bettini is called “pepito grillo”; pepito is also a nickname for Jose)
* Obelisk (2003)
* Nibelungo (2003) –confirmed to be one of Ullrichs nicknames (The title of a German national epos, rewritten as an Opera)
* LAS (2003) –could this be Lance ArmStrong? or perhaps Lastras / Laslo bodrogi?
* María (2002-03-04) -According to Manzano, this codename belongs to the deseaced rider Jose Maria Jimenez.
* Rosa (2003-04) –most likely the winner of the Giro “maglia rosa“. Could this be Simoni (won in 2001+2003) or Savoldelli (won in 2002)?
* Valv.(Piti) (2004) –Almost certain to be Valverde (he was interviewed in 2005, where he told his dog was named Piti)
* Urco (2004) -rumoured to be Pereiro (Urco is an old mythical legend about a dog, found in the local city Pontevedra he origins from)
* César (2004-05)
* MZD (2005)
* Clasicómano Luigi (2006) –most likely a special client of Dr. Luigi Cecchini (who is rumoured to have collaborated with Fuentes).
* Huerta (2006) –Its a town with 285 inhabitant in “Castilla y Leon –Salamanca”, but it could also be a region in either Murcia or Valencia.
* Clasicómano (2006) –could this be a classic rider like Bettini/DiLuca/Rebellin/Freire/Valverde?
* Gemma
* Amigo de Birillo –translates to “friend of Birillo”. Could this be Lombardi (who lives in Madrid, and is best friend with Basso)?
* Rosa
* PTNI –The seized "training" scedule from 2003, matches races done by PanTaNI (and Manzano confirmed Pantani to be a client).

Moller said:

Lifted from elsewhere;

[font=Trebuchet MS]List of some new suspected names (so far not implicated officialy):
[/font]Recently we learned that the Spanish court has written 6000 more pages, where additional riders are supposed to be identified. We havent yet recieved any new information about additional names. So I will just post all the old information about additional names, that has been reported by several journalists and newspapers.

Popovych (Discovery): -codename "popo" written on backside of a hotel card, where Fuentes allegedly doped several riders.
Vinokourov (Astana): -codename "vino" written on backside of a hotel card, where Fuentes allegedly doped several riders.
Mayo (Saunier Duval): -mentioned in a budget paper made by Fuentes with the codename "Ivan May".
Valverde (Caisse d’Epargne): -blood bag found with EPO, name written on backside of hotel card, and mentioned in the budget paper.


Then we have some "codenames" not identified in the first report. Some of these riders might already be on the identified list, since Fuentes sometimes used more than 1 codename for the same rider. Below is the entire list of names, where we so far only have speculation on the identity (but please note, that all blue names are now considered to be more or less certain):

* Cowboy (2003) –could this be Armstrong (many has earlier called him a Cowboy, because he lives in Texas and owns a ranch)?
* Panticosa (2003) –It’s a mountain town with 600 inhabitants, build around an alpine ski resort (located in Aragon-Huesca province)
* Pavarotti (2003) –could this be Cipollini (because he was a very “loud speaking” man from Italy)?
* Pepito (2003) –Manzano mentioned a rider called “Pepito Flores” (Bettini is called “pepito grillo”; pepito is also a nickname for Jose)
* Obelisk (2003)
* Nibelungo (2003) –confirmed to be one of Ullrichs nicknames (The title of a German national epos, rewritten as an Opera)
* LAS (2003) –could this be Lance ArmStrong? or perhaps Lastras / Laslo bodrogi?
* María (2002-03-04) -According to Manzano, this codename belongs to the deseaced rider Jose Maria Jimenez.
* Rosa (2003-04) –most likely the winner of the Giro “maglia rosa“. Could this be Simoni (won in 2001+2003) or Savoldelli (won in 2002)?
* Valv.(Piti) (2004) –Almost certain to be Valverde (he was interviewed in 2005, where he told his dog was named Piti)
* Urco (2004) -rumoured to be Pereiro (Urco is an old mythical legend about a dog, found in the local city Pontevedra he origins from)
* César (2004-05)
* MZD (2005)
* Clasicómano Luigi (2006) –most likely a special client of Dr. Luigi Cecchini (who is rumoured to have collaborated with Fuentes).
* Huerta (2006) –Its a town with 285 inhabitant in “Castilla y Leon –Salamanca”, but it could also be a region in either Murcia or Valencia.
* Clasicómano (2006) –could this be a classic rider like Bettini/DiLuca/Rebellin/Freire/Valverde?
* Gemma
* Amigo de Birillo –translates to “friend of Birillo”. Could this be Lombardi (who lives in Madrid, and is best friend with Basso)?
* Rosa
* PTNI –The seized "training" scedule from 2003, matches races done by PanTaNI (and Manzano confirmed Pantani to be a client).

amigo de birillo is Frankie Boy Schleck

god I hope they get freire de amigo de Birillo

I doubt Armstrong was that unprofessional to get his squad done by this guy

thunder said:

I doubt Armstrong was that unprofessional to get his squad done by this guy

I thought that myself but USPS's total non-performance in the 2006 Tour was a bit surprising

Moller said:

I thought that myself but USPS's total non-performance in the 2006 Tour was a bit surprising

I do concede to being very curious on those two blood bags, and all texas blood clinics about now.

thunder said:

I do concede to being very curious on those two blood bags, and all texas blood clinics about now.

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Thanks guys.

Yeah I know they went to Freiberg. There are only 3 people who can sink them. Sinkewitz, Ullrich and Pevenage

Grater said:

Thanks guys.

Yeah I know they went to Freiberg. There are only 3 people who can sink them. Sinkewitz, Ullrich and Pevenage

so why is Lance a dog, and Rogers your man? Seems to me there is no difference.

Grater said:

Thanks guys.

Yeah I know they went to Freiberg. There are only 3 people who can sink them. Sinkewitz, Ullrich and Pevenage

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