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  1. Katra said:

    [snip preceding]
    The "trip" resulting from this recipe lasts 8 to 12 hours and is
    considered to be pretty harmless, but it is quite illegal,
    unfortunately. :-P

    Well, _we thought_ it was harmless way back when, but I'm not so sure
    it is still considered so.

    Quoted message said:


    http://www.erowid.org/plants/cacti/cacti_guide/cacti_guide_trichoce.shtml

    Quoted message said:


    I understand it also tastes pretty vile!

    Definitely ralph-inducing, though not so much as its cousin that Carlos
    Castaneda favored for his spiritual quests....

    -aem

  2. Katra said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Damsel in dis Dress said:
    Katra said:

    Here's an herbal prescription for you...

    Find one very large, healthy San Pedro cactus. (Peruvian torch works too)
    They can easily be found on line, or at any good nursery that keeps
    landscaping plants.

    Take a 1 ft. section (or approx. 200 to 300 grams if you want to weigh
    it out). Remove all the spines with a veggie tool and slice it into one
    inch slices. Carefully remove the round woody core. The lower or older
    growth will be highest in Alkaloids so just save the upper part of the
    whole for cactus propagation.

    Cut it up into chunks and place it into the blender, and run on high
    until it's well pulverized. Strain off the juice and reduce it on a VERY
    low simmer until it's down to about 1 cup. Boiling it damages the active
    ingredient. Mix LIBERALLY with grapefruit juice and honey.

    Hold your nose and down it quickly on an empty stomach.

    Lay down and wait 2 hours.

    Wear sunglasses. ;-)

    And don't take with any other medications...
    And don't try to drive or work.
    And have your DH handy!!!

    And remember, ownership of these cacti is legal, but it is NOT legal to
    ingest them. Seriously... <sigh>

    Wow, Katra! I can't begin to tell you how grateful I am for this recipe.
    I really can't. LOL!

    It's posting was meant as humor... ;-)
    I am glad that you took it that way!

    I'd be very concerned about you if you thought I'd actually go to all that
    trouble. <G>

    Quoted message said:

    The "trip" resulting from this recipe lasts 8 to 12 hours and is
    considered to be pretty harmless, but it is quite illegal,
    unfortunately. :-P

    I feel weird enough all by myself without going to great lengths to feel
    even weirder. LOL!

    Carol
    --
    "Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
    'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
    Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

    *James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

  3. Maverick' said:

    Step 1 - Plan trip to Peru...
    Step 2 - Follow the recipe.

    You mean I can't get San Pedro cactus in Minnesota? Damn! I was gonna
    whip up a batch of this stuff for Crash. Oh well ...

    Carol
    --
    "Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
    'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
    Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

    *James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

  4. "BOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Nancy Young" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    "BOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Carole Beard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]
    > i logged on here to get recipes and food conversation,
    > (rec.food.cooking) and i would like to know what attacked daughter
    > or the price of gas has to do with this web sight.

    Same thing as your Webbie-TeeVee HTML signature

    You believe that? And it thinks it's a web site. (snork)
    What a moron.

    nancy

    Today, I'm not believing anything! ;-)
    (I've got to correct one thing, Nancy.)
    What the heck is a web sight?

    They said it was a web sight. Not me.

    nancy

  5. Damsel in dis Dress <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    I feel weird enough all by myself without going to great lengths to
    feel even weirder. LOL!

    Carol

    Welcome to my world...

    --
    No Bread Crumbs were hurt in the making of this Meal.
    Type 2 Diabetic 1AC 5.6mmol or 101mg/dl
    Continuing to be Manitoban

  6. aem said:

    Katra wrote:
    [snips]

    Quoted message said:

    Tch! Here's an herbal prescription for you...

    Find one very large, healthy San Pedro cactus. [snip the rest]

    Someathing veddy interesting here....I posted a reply to this


    (through

    Quoted message said:

    Google) in which I mentioned the common name for the active


    ingredient

    Quoted message said:

    that would result from this concoction. The reply has not appeared.
    Is there a secret moderator/censor/automated filter at work? What


    are

    Quoted message said:

    the forbidden words, I wonder?


    Replying to my own post. The one referenced above showed up a half
    hour or more later. Seems unlikely to me that it was a machine-made
    glitch, rather than a man-made one.

    -aem

  7. "Nancy Young" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    "BOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Carole Beard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    i logged on here to get recipes and food conversation,
    (rec.food.cooking) and i would like to know what attacked daughter
    or the price of gas has to do with this web sight.

    Same thing as your Webbie-TeeVee HTML signature

    You believe that? And it thinks it's a web site. (snork)
    What a moron.

    nancy

    Today, I'm not believing anything! ;-)
    (I've got to correct one thing, Nancy.)
    What the heck is a web sight? Is it a pretty picture of a spider's
    web in the early morning with the sunlight glistening the droplets of
    dew?

    BOB

  8. In article <[email hidden]>,

    aem said:

    Katra wrote:
    [snip]

    Quoted message said:

    Tch! Here's an herbal prescription for you...

    Find one very large, healthy San Pedro cactus. [snip recipe]

    Hold your nose and down it quickly on an empty stomach.

    Lay down and wait 2 hours.

    Wear sunglasses. ;-)

    And don't take with any other medications...
    And don't try to drive or work.
    And have your DH handy!!!

    And remember, ownership of these cacti is legal, but it is NOT legal
    to ingest them. Seriously... <sigh>

    Mescaline is not quite as likely as peyote buttons to provoke
    ralphing, but almost.

    I've read various accounts. ;-)
    Some people can handle it no problem, others ralph their guts out before
    the 4 hour peak.... but in peyote use, that is supposed to accentuate
    the trip.

    Ayahuasca is supposed to be even worse.

    I think I'll pass. <lol>

    Quoted message said:

    We already have a thread going that is quite
    hallucinogenic. I hope the animé and wargames cross-post readers of
    that thread don't find this post.

    -aem

    <lol>

    Quoted message said:

    --
    K.

    Sprout the Mung Bean to reply...

    There is no need to change the world. All we have to do is toilet train the world and we'll never have to change it again. -- Swami Beyondanada

    Quoted message said:

    ,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<Katraatcenturyteldotnet>,,<

    http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&include=0&userid=katra

  9. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Maverick said:

    "Damsel in dis Dress" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Katra said:

    Here's an herbal prescription for you...

    Find one very large, healthy San Pedro cactus. (Peruvian torch works too)
    They can easily be found on line, or at any good nursery that keeps
    landscaping plants.

    Take a 1 ft. section (or approx. 200 to 300 grams if you want to weigh
    it out). Remove all the spines with a veggie tool and slice it into one
    inch slices. Carefully remove the round woody core. The lower or older
    growth will be highest in Alkaloids so just save the upper part of the
    whole for cactus propagation.

    Cut it up into chunks and place it into the blender, and run on high
    until it's well pulverized. Strain off the juice and reduce it on a VERY
    low simmer until it's down to about 1 cup. Boiling it damages the active
    ingredient. Mix LIBERALLY with grapefruit juice and honey.

    Hold your nose and down it quickly on an empty stomach.

    Lay down and wait 2 hours.

    Wear sunglasses. ;-)

    And don't take with any other medications...
    And don't try to drive or work.
    And have your DH handy!!!

    And remember, ownership of these cacti is legal, but it is NOT legal to
    ingest them. Seriously... <sigh>

    Wow, Katra! I can't begin to tell you how grateful I am for this recipe.
    I really can't. LOL!

    Carol

    Step 1 - Plan trip to Peru...
    Step 2 - Follow the recipe.

    LOL

    Bret

    Indeed! <g>

    Except that Trichocereus peruvianus or pachanoi are both available at a
    few nurseries in Austin....... ;-)

    And, of course, on eBay!!!
    --
    K.

  10. In article <[email hidden]>,

    aem said:
    Katra said:

    [snip preceding]
    The "trip" resulting from this recipe lasts 8 to 12 hours and is
    considered to be pretty harmless, but it is quite illegal,
    unfortunately. :-P

    Well, _we thought_ it was harmless way back when, but I'm not so sure
    it is still considered so.

    Well, that goes for _any_ psychoactive plant! Mushrooms included.
    It's pretty harmless if you are not stupid enough to overdose, or if you
    have a pre-disposing psychotic condition, it can either cure it or make
    it worse.

    Some psychiatrists are now experimenting with psilocybin to enhance
    treatment under supervision. Takes some heavy duty DEA licensing to do
    it but the use of Mescalin, Psilocybin and Ibogaine is supposed to
    really REALLY help cure alcoholism and other substance abuse addictions.

    The interesting thing about the basic psychoactives is that they are not
    capable of becoming addictive due to receptor upload in the brain. After
    the first couple of doses, they won't work for awhile... At all.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    http://www.erowid.org/plants/cacti/cacti_guide/cacti_guide_trichoce.shtml

    Quoted message said:


    I understand it also tastes pretty vile!

    Definitely ralph-inducing, though not so much as its cousin that Carlos
    Castaneda favored for his spiritual quests....

    But then there was Castaneda's use of Datura!
    Much more dangerous!

    Beautiful plants tho' and highly available as a landscaping item.

    Quoted message said:


    -aem

    --
    K.

    Sprout the Mung Bean to reply...

    There is no need to change the world. All we have to do is toilet train the world and we'll never have to change it again. -- Swami Beyondanada

    Quoted message said:

    ,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<Katraatcenturyteldotnet>,,<

    http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&include=0&userid=katra

  11. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Damsel in dis Dress said:
    Katra said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Damsel in dis Dress said:

    Katra <[email hidden]>, if that's their real name, wrote:

    >Here's an herbal prescription for you...
    >
    >Find one very large, healthy San Pedro cactus. (Peruvian torch works too)
    >They can easily be found on line, or at any good nursery that keeps
    >landscaping plants.
    >
    >Take a 1 ft. section (or approx. 200 to 300 grams if you want to weigh
    >it out). Remove all the spines with a veggie tool and slice it into one
    >inch slices. Carefully remove the round woody core. The lower or older
    >growth will be highest in Alkaloids so just save the upper part of the
    >whole for cactus propagation.
    >
    >Cut it up into chunks and place it into the blender, and run on high
    >until it's well pulverized. Strain off the juice and reduce it on a VERY
    >low simmer until it's down to about 1 cup. Boiling it damages the active
    >ingredient. Mix LIBERALLY with grapefruit juice and honey.
    >
    >Hold your nose and down it quickly on an empty stomach.
    >
    >Lay down and wait 2 hours.
    >
    >Wear sunglasses. ;-)
    >
    >And don't take with any other medications...
    >And don't try to drive or work.
    >And have your DH handy!!!
    >
    >And remember, ownership of these cacti is legal, but it is NOT legal to
    >ingest them. Seriously... <sigh>

    Wow, Katra! I can't begin to tell you how grateful I am for this recipe.
    I really can't. LOL!

    It's posting was meant as humor... ;-)
    I am glad that you took it that way!

    I'd be very concerned about you if you thought I'd actually go to all that
    trouble. <G>

    Not. ;-)
    And one would hope you'd do a lot of research too before trying anything
    like this! <lol>

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    The "trip" resulting from this recipe lasts 8 to 12 hours and is
    considered to be pretty harmless, but it is quite illegal,
    unfortunately. :-P

    I feel weird enough all by myself without going to great lengths to feel
    even weirder. LOL!

    Carol

    But then again...... with proper use, stuff like this is supposed to be
    therapeutic.

    Personally, I've studied it as part of my "ancient religious" studies,
    but would most likely never have the guts to actually try it! <sigh>

    Kat the coward......

    --
    K.

    Sprout the Mung Bean to reply...

    There is no need to change the world. All we have to do is toilet train the world and we'll never have to change it again. -- Swami Beyondanada

    Quoted message said:

    ,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<Katraatcenturyteldotnet>,,<

    http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&include=0&userid=katra

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