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  1. Just out of interest,

    how many of the regulars here *never* wear a helmet?

    pk

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  2. PK said:

    Just out of interest,

    how many of the regulars here *never* wear a helmet?

    pk

    Never.

    And my children (both under 8) are under no compulsion from me to wear one. They both own helmets
    but the choice is theirs. Both love cycling & eldest rides to school - on the road.

  3. PK said:

    Just out of interest,

    how many of the regulars here *never* wear a helmet?

    pk

    When I bought my bike from Fatbirds I was kinda forced into taking a freebie. Never worn it - don't
    intend to unless I get a helmet-cam stuck on the side of it.

    I can't really see how a helmet is gonna help me if I get hit by White Van Man doin' 70 in a 30
    zone, or some ijut in a 4X4 with his phone stuck to his ear and his eyes on his seat cover.

    Gary

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  4. "[Not Responding]" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    PK said:

    Just out of interest,

    how many of the regulars here *never* wear a helmet?

    I have never worn one, I think they foster a feeling of false security.I'd much prefer to avoid a
    collision in the first place than to rely on a helmet to bail me out.
    --
    Simon

  5. In article <[email hidden]>, spam.trap100 @btinternet.com says...

    Quoted message said:

    Just out of interest,

    how many of the regulars here *never* wear a helmet?

    pk

    This argument always seems to run for ages but I can only see one sensible answer. Surely it HAS to
    be best to wear a helmet. Sure, if a car comes piling into you at 70mph then you're probably toast
    but what about all other eventualities? An unexpected side swipe sends you down to the pavement, you
    don't have chance to fully react and your head hits the pavement. Who comes off best here....helmet
    or no-helmet. It's a no- brainer. I just don't get it. Sure, it feels great without the helmet but I
    value my life much more than the slight discomfort of wearing the
    lid. They said that if Andrei Kivilev (sp?) would have probably survived if he was wearing a lid,
    that's enough for me. Here's a picture of my friend Michael on a training ride with Lance
    Armstrong. Hemlets galore.

    wardworldwide.commikeandthebike

    Cheers

    Dene

  6. Quoted message said:

    Never.

    Always

    Quoted message said:

    And my children (both under 8) are under no compulsion from me to wear one. They both own helmets
    but the choice is theirs. Both love cycling & eldest rides to school - on the road.

    My teenager always wears one too - and he cycles to school and he does time trials and he enjoys
    cycling - on the road. Wearing of a helmet has not put him off.

    A helmet is not some sort of magic talisman that will prevent the wearer form all injury, but it
    does provide some protection in some circumstances.

    If you want to wear a helmet - do so, If you don't then don't - personal choice. It just so happens
    I think the choice of wearing one is a better choice than not wearing one.

    Cheers, helen s

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  7. PK said:

    Just out of interest,

    how many of the regulars here *never* wear a helmet?

    How many of the regulars here can resist pitching in to yet another interminable heard it all before
    not going to change my mind helmet thread?

    Yawn

    Tony

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  8. PK must be edykated coz e writed:

    Quoted message said:

    Just out of interest,

    how many of the regulars here *never* wear a helmet?

    pk


    I usually wear a helmet, but occasionally I go without, but riding a recumbent trike I'm less likely
    to fall over, (although it has happened on more spirited rides).

    --
    Ian

    catrike.co.ukcatrike.co.uk

  9. PK said:

    Just out of interest,

    how many of the regulars here *never* wear a helmet?

    pk

    No comment.

  10. "PK" <[email hidden]>typed

    Quoted message said:

    Just out of interest,

    Quoted message said:

    how many of the regulars here *never* wear a helmet?

    I don't. I don't cycle anymore. I don't wear a h*lm*t in the house or when crossing the
    street either.

    I did wear a lid in the last few years I cycled. I called it the 'Neurotrauma Condom'.

    --
    Helen D. Vecht: [email hidden] Edgware.

  11. Not Responding said:
    PK said:

    Just out of interest,

    how many of the regulars here *never* wear a helmet?

    pk

    Never.

    And my children (both under 8) are under no compulsion from me to wear one. They both own helmets
    but the choice is theirs. Both love cycling & eldest rides to school - on the road.

    Reading my post this AM, it's a bit ambiguous.

    Their choice at the moment seems to be NOT to wear helmets but that's fine by me.

    She is the only child to arrive at her school by bike - that's the important fact, not the
    type of hat.

  12. Helen Deborah Vecht must be edykated coz e writed:

    Quoted message said:

    "PK" <[email hidden]>typed

    Quoted message said:

    Just out of interest,

    Quoted message said:

    how many of the regulars here *never* wear a helmet?

    I don't. I don't cycle anymore. I don't wear a h*lm*t in the house or when crossing the
    street either.

    I did wear a lid in the last few years I cycled. I called it the 'Neurotrauma Condom'.


    Why don't you cycle anymore?

    --
    Ian

    catrike.co.ukcatrike.co.uk

  13. "[Not Responding]" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    PK said:

    Just out of interest,

    how many of the regulars here *never* wear a helmet?

    pk

    Never.

    And my children (both under 8) are under no compulsion from me to wear one. They both own helmets
    but the choice is theirs. Both love cycling & eldest rides to school - on the road.

    I,m surprised they let him in the gate! mine is doing cyc prof and helmets are de rigeur. As it is
    Sunday and as News of the World hits millions of doormats (not mine) can we have a genuine "Not
    wearing a helmet saved my life" story please?

  14. "PK" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bkinng$675> how many of the regulars here
    *never* wear a helmet?

    My wife and I both cycle to work through suburban traffic. Sometimes I wait for her by a roundabout
    which she has to negotiate on her way home. My observation was that the most likely accident was
    that she would be T boned by an emerging car which would knock her off her bike, with a consequent
    possibility of hitting her head on the curb of the roundabout. I asked her to wear a helmet and
    therefore, in all concience, must wear one myself. We never wear helmets for leisure cycling on the
    tandem or our solos. In short, my judgement is that helmets may be of some use in urban traffic.

    However, I am aware of the contradiction that my concern for Sally is not objective and that I would
    not wear a helmet for road cycling if I did not want Sally to wear one. I am firmly against
    compulsory helemets. My own issues are componded by the fact that since we chose to wear helmets for
    the commute, my company has made it compulsory for any one cycling on its premises to wear a helmet
    (and issues them free). They did this at the same time as reducing the site speed limit to 20mph!

    Conclusion: There is no right answer to this problem

    cheers

  15. Not Responding' email hidden in said:

    She is the only child to arrive at her school by bike - that's the important fact, not the
    type of hat.

    I don't have children but I don't know whether I would allow mine to cycle to school if I did have
    them. Yes, I know there are long term health benefits, and yes I know that risks are low etc. It's
    just something I'm sure i would feel easy about.

    However, as a nurse currently working in paediatric trauma and orthopaedics in Birmingham, over the
    summer holiday only one injured cyclist came through the door (and s/he was helmetless and off-road
    at the time of accident).

    I'm just glad I don't have to make that decision! My hat goes off (excuse pun) to those that do
    allow their loved ones to cycle.

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  16. Rod Jenkins' email hidden in said:

    commute, my company has made it compulsory for any one cycling on its premises to wear a helmet
    (and issues them free). They did this at the same time as reducing the site speed limit to 20mph!

    And are both of these regulations observed at all times?

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  17. "PK" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Just out of interest,

    how many of the regulars here *never* wear a helmet?

    I used to (occasionally) cycle to work, wearing a helmet. When I got to work, I'd always take the
    helmet off.

    I suffered concussion twice.

    Both times when I hit my head on the low doorway into my office.

    In terms of risk evaluation, I'd have been better off wearing the helmet in my office than
    on my bike!

    The fact that I wear a helmet (or not) should not affect anyone else. It's a free world (still, and
    just about!), so people can do as they want to.

    Regards,

    Pete. Derby UK

  18. PK said:

    Just out of interest,

    how many of the regulars here *never* wear a helmet?

    pk

    Always and always, and the boy (age 9) wears his as well or he doesn't go out.

    It does no harm to wear a helmet, and I'd rather wear one than not, just in case. It's not going
    to save me if some idiot drives into me, but if I fall off then it might save me from
    concussion, or worse.

    FWIW when my boys were younger I used to make then wear helmets and knee and elbow pads on their
    scooters and roller skates - because they used to fall off/over a lot and small heads and hard
    pavements/floors aren't a happy combination.

    In fact the only time I really needed to be wearing a helmet (crashed into a wall) I wasn't wearing
    one - but then I was playing squash! Spent a long time in Casualty though getting X-rays and so on.
    --
    Tina Eager

  19. PK said:

    Just out of interest,

    how many of the regulars here *never* wear a helmet?

    Prior to joining this group and being exposed to the real figures, I rarely wore a helmet and then
    only for fast difficult downhills off-road. I now never wear a helmet because on the basis of the
    research evidence, under the conditions under which I used to wear one it would have been unlikely
    to do any good anyway.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) jasmine.org.uk~simon

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  20. PK said:

    Just out of interest,

    how many of the regulars here *never* wear a helmet?

    pk

    <G&S> What *never*? </G&S>

    I'll have to go for "hardly ever" because I have worn one on odd [1] occasions - but it wasn't a
    cycle helmet... it was one of those industrial hard hat things. And my reason for wearing it was
    nothing to do with safety.

    And, of course, I have to wear a helmet when riding the motorised bicycles.

    [1] and I mean odd.

    --
    Andrew Pattle

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