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  1. Dan B. said:

    On Feb 9, 7:23 am, Buck <[email hidden]>
    wrote:
    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    I have a bar mounted mirror on the trike but have never tried a helmet
    mounted one,
    wouldn't it cause a problem in an accident with snagging or applied localised
    pressure to a point on the helmet?


    <snip>
    Possible, if unlikely, IMO. I'll take that potential increased risk,
    in exchange for the benefit of being able to better perceive my
    surroundings and (hopefully) avoid the accident in the first place.

    Best,

    Dan


    I have the two bar end mirrors on the trike and prefer the wider view,
    plus I don't think I would function well with a helmet mounted mirror.
    What ever happened to the company that made a periscope type system
    built into there helmet.

  2. Joel said:

    What ever happened to the company that made a periscope type system
    built into there helmet.

    Looking at their site (reevu.com) I'd say they've given up hats for
    pedal cyclists in favour of motorcyclists.

    I did try a Reevu briefly (it was back when I always wore a lid). It
    was okay... but not better than that and in practice I found having to
    move my head to the correct angle to get the right view made it no
    better than a bar mirror, and in practice your head could well be at an
    angle on a 'bent other than that which the designers assumed.

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
    net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

  3. Peter Clinch said:
    Joel said:

    What ever happened to the company that made a periscope type system
    built into there helmet.

    Looking at their site (reevu.com) I'd say they've given up hats for
    pedal cyclists in favour of motorcyclists.

    I did try a Reevu briefly (it was back when I always wore a lid). It
    was okay... but not better than that and in practice I found having to
    move my head to the correct angle to get the right view made it no
    better than a bar mirror, and in practice your head could well be at an
    angle on a 'bent other than that which the designers assumed.

    Pete.


    I think they have a good idea, but I think a small video monitor as the
    type sold for miniature computers and a CCD helmet camera facing rear
    would be the ultimate. The miniature LCD hangs like a helmet mount
    mirror, but gives you the view of a full screen monitor.

  4. "Joel" <joelw135atcomcast.net> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Peter Clinch said:
    Joel said:

    What ever happened to the company that made a periscope type system
    built into there helmet.

    Looking at their site (reevu.com) I'd say they've given up hats for pedal
    cyclists in favour of motorcyclists.

    I did try a Reevu briefly (it was back when I always wore a lid). It was
    okay... but not better than that and in practice I found having to move
    my head to the correct angle to get the right view made it no better than
    a bar mirror, and in practice your head could well be at an angle on a
    'bent other than that which the designers assumed.

    Pete.


    I think they have a good idea, but I think a small video monitor as the
    type sold for miniature computers and a CCD helmet camera facing rear
    would be the ultimate. The miniature LCD hangs like a helmet mount mirror,
    but gives you the view of a full screen monitor.

    Battery life problems...going rear blind when the battery dies. Cost! LCD
    not so good in bright light. Weight! If a system was developed with a CCD
    and LCD, there would be no absolute reason to mount the LCD on the helmet,
    and on a helmet focus distance would probably be a big issue, especially
    amongst us presbyopic old codgers. With a mirror the focus isn't at the
    mirror, but rather at the object (I could be wrong here...it's been a long
    time since high school phyisics). With a LCD the focus is at the surface of
    the display, and unless you had special lenses ground where the near vision
    was at the top, you wouldn't be able to focus on the display. Moving the
    display to a more remote position would require a larger display and more
    power and then we get back to the bright ambient light display problems.

    --
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  5. Joel said:

    I think they have a good idea, but I think a small video monitor as the
    type sold for miniature computers and a CCD helmet camera facing rear
    would be the ultimate.

    Nah... head-up display in your radar-equipped velomobile ;-)

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
    net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

  6. gotbent said:

    "Joel" <joelw135atcomcast.net> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Peter Clinch said:

    Joel wrote:

    > What ever happened to the company that made a periscope type system
    > built into there helmet.
    Looking at their site (reevu.com) I'd say they've given up hats for pedal
    cyclists in favour of motorcyclists.

    I did try a Reevu briefly (it was back when I always wore a lid). It was
    okay... but not better than that and in practice I found having to move
    my head to the correct angle to get the right view made it no better than
    a bar mirror, and in practice your head could well be at an angle on a
    'bent other than that which the designers assumed.

    Pete.


    I think they have a good idea, but I think a small video monitor as the
    type sold for miniature computers and a CCD helmet camera facing rear
    would be the ultimate. The miniature LCD hangs like a helmet mount mirror,
    but gives you the view of a full screen monitor.

    Battery life problems...going rear blind when the battery dies. Cost! LCD
    not so good in bright light. Weight! If a system was developed with a CCD
    and LCD, there would be no absolute reason to mount the LCD on the helmet,
    and on a helmet focus distance would probably be a big issue, especially
    amongst us presbyopic old codgers. With a mirror the focus isn't at the
    mirror, but rather at the object (I could be wrong here...it's been a long
    time since high school phyisics). With a LCD the focus is at the surface of
    the display, and unless you had special lenses ground where the near vision
    was at the top, you wouldn't be able to focus on the display. Moving the
    display to a more remote position would require a larger display and more
    power and then we get back to the bright ambient light display problems.


    The LCD system I saw gives you the ability to see picture as if it was
    on a 50" TV at 7.5' from screen. I had a expermental one for a portable
    wrist mount computer, which I field tested, and it worked fine, but the
    computer was crashing all the time. It was designed for the military as
    a way for a spotter to remain hiden, but still get the view. I
    simplified it, but you get the point. The camera also had an extreme
    wide angle view which was adjustable. The battery life for the LCD was
    15 hours, and the camera was only 6 hrs. When I tested it the supply was
    Nicad, but with todays technology for batteries I would think the life
    would be extended.

  7. Peter Clinch said:
    Joel said:

    I think they have a good idea, but I think a small video monitor as the
    type sold for miniature computers and a CCD helmet camera facing rear
    would be the ultimate.

    Nah... head-up display in your radar-equipped velomobile ;-)

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
    net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

    I'd vote for having a stoker on a back-to-back tandem as the ultimate
    in rear vision. Unless they're asleep, or their vocal cords have been
    paralyzed by fear, it's hard to do better for monitoring the world
    behind you. :-)

    Dan

  8. gotbent said:


    "Joel" <joelw135atcomcast.net> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Peter Clinch said:

    Joel wrote:

    > What ever happened to the company that made a periscope type system
    > built into there helmet.

    Looking at their site (reevu.com) I'd say they've given up hats for
    pedal cyclists in favour of motorcyclists.

    I did try a Reevu briefly (it was back when I always wore a lid). It
    was okay... but not better than that and in practice I found having to
    move my head to the correct angle to get the right view made it no
    better than a bar mirror, and in practice your head could well be at an
    angle on a 'bent other than that which the designers assumed.

    Pete.


    I think they have a good idea, but I think a small video monitor as the
    type sold for miniature computers and a CCD helmet camera facing rear
    would be the ultimate. The miniature LCD hangs like a helmet mount
    mirror, but gives you the view of a full screen monitor.

    Battery life problems...

    Power it from a lithium cell, charged by a miniture wind turbine
    mounted in the vents of your helmet.

    --
    Three wheels good, two wheels ok

    www.catrike.co.uk

  9. Zebee Johnstone said:

    Never occurred to me to use one when I was commuting on an upright so
    perhaps it's just exposure.

    Zebee

    I didn't start using a mirror on a bike until I started riding a bent.
    I found that on an upright it was easier to quickly twist my body and
    look behind me. On my bent I find that very difficult to do. I ride in
    a fairly reclined position, so the same sort of maneuver I did on an
    upright tends to produce a view of the ground. I've found I get a
    better view of the rear with a mirror on a recumbent than I did twisting
    and looking back on the upright. I didn't know what I was missing when I
    rode an upright, and if I was to start riding an upright again, I would
    undoubtedly get a mirror for it.

    ---
    John Knez

  10. Buck said:
    gotbent said:


    "Joel" <joelw135atcomcast.net> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Peter Clinch wrote:
    > Joel wrote:
    >
    >> What ever happened to the company that made a periscope type system
    >> built into there helmet.
    >
    > Looking at their site (reevu.com) I'd say they've given up hats for
    > pedal cyclists in favour of motorcyclists.
    >
    > I did try a Reevu briefly (it was back when I always wore a lid).
    > It was okay... but not better than that and in practice I found
    > having to move my head to the correct angle to get the right view
    > made it no better than a bar mirror, and in practice your head could
    > well be at an angle on a 'bent other than that which the designers
    > assumed.
    >
    > Pete.
    I think they have a good idea, but I think a small video monitor as
    the type sold for miniature computers and a CCD helmet camera facing
    rear would be the ultimate. The miniature LCD hangs like a helmet
    mount mirror, but gives you the view of a full screen monitor.

    Battery life problems...

    Power it from a lithium cell, charged by a miniture wind turbine mounted
    in the vents of your helmet.


    Now how about add a little Infra Red technology for not riding?

  11. Joel joelw135atcomcast.net said:
    Buck said:
    gotbent said:


    "Joel" <joelw135atcomcast.net> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > Peter Clinch wrote:
    >> Joel wrote:
    >>
    >>> What ever happened to the company that made a periscope type system
    >>> built into there helmet.
    >>
    >> Looking at their site (reevu.com) I'd say they've given up hats for
    >> pedal cyclists in favour of motorcyclists.
    >>
    >> I did try a Reevu briefly (it was back when I always wore a lid). It
    >> was okay... but not better than that and in practice I found having to
    >> move my head to the correct angle to get the right view made it no
    >> better than a bar mirror, and in practice your head could well be at an
    >> angle on a 'bent other than that which the designers assumed.
    >>
    >> Pete.
    > I think they have a good idea, but I think a small video monitor as the
    > type sold for miniature computers and a CCD helmet camera facing rear
    > would be the ultimate. The miniature LCD hangs like a helmet mount
    > mirror, but gives you the view of a full screen monitor.

    Battery life problems...

    Power it from a lithium cell, charged by a miniture wind turbine
    mounted in the vents of your helmet.


    Now how about add a little Infra Red technology for not riding?

    Let's just go all the way and integrate a particle beam generator to
    deal with errant cagers.
    --
    Three wheels good, two wheels ok

    www.catrike.co.uk

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