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Hell Ride Solution - simple!

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  1. The problems associated with the Hell Ride are well documented and one
    would argue that the recent tragety could have been predicted.

    To me the solution is either...

    Manage the Hell Ride with adequate supervision and control

    OR

    Police the hell out of it to ensure traffic lights are adhered to

    OR

    Have a lead car fitted with this technology to allow the pack
    uninterupted cycling......

    http://www.themirt.com/

    http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20031027/0040234.shtml

    Karl aka Stomper

  2. Stomper said:

    Have a lead car fitted with this technology to allow the pack
    uninterupted cycling......

    http://www.themirt.com/

    me wonders why that needs to be fitted to a lead car since it operates
    from 4,000', a few fitted to bicycles should be fine.

    me also wonders who the suckers are that would buy this sort of thing {:-)

  3. Don't emergency service vehicles already have a similiar device? (Or was that just for the Comms Games? :p )

  4. cfsmtb said:

    Don't emergency service vehicles already have a similiar device? (Or was
    that just for the Comms Games? :p )

    Tell me, which would you deploy

    1) a set of traffic lights with a sensor that any [censored]
    criminal, monied, annachist, etc ) could activate to get a green, or
    conversely give someone else a red light, or

    2) a integrated set of lights that can all be controlled from a central
    command centre (which already exists) and simply requires ambulance to
    be fitted with a gps/gsm tracking device and the ability to flick a
    switch that says "emergency - unfettered path to hospital required"
    which little man at control centre responds to and sets the lights?

  5. Stomper said:

    Have a lead car fitted with this technology to allow the pack
    uninterupted cycling......

    http://www.themirt.com/

    The vast majority of places which have traffic lights which are
    affected by MIRTs have made their use illegal except by emergency
    vehicles. They're also fairly easy to detect if the lights have cameras
    on them (not the enforcement ones, just the traffic observation type)
    as they emit infrared which shows up as a nice bright light on the
    screen.

    Legalities aside, why should cyclists (or any other road users) have
    the ability to disrupt traffic flow purely for their own convenience?

    Graeme

  6. Terryc said:
    cfsmtb said:

    Don't emergency service vehicles already have a similiar device? (Or was
    that just for the Comms Games? :p )

    Tell me, which would you deploy

    1) a set of traffic lights with a sensor that any [censored]
    criminal, monied, annachist, etc ) could activate to get a green, or
    conversely give someone else a red light, or

    2) a integrated set of lights that can all be controlled from a central
    command centre (which already exists) and simply requires ambulance to
    be fitted with a gps/gsm tracking device and the ability to flick a
    switch that says "emergency - unfettered path to hospital required"
    which little man at control centre responds to and sets the lights?

    Would think that traffic lights equipped with a sensor system that requires
    an encripted code to activate (code specific to emergency services) would be
    the best way to go. The little man might be on his coffee break, or napping,
    when the call goes out.

    --
    Cheers
    Peter

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  7. Peter Signorini said:


    Terryc said:
    cfsmtb said:

    Don't emergency service vehicles already have a similiar device? (Or was
    that just for the Comms Games? :p )

    Tell me, which would you deploy

    1) a set of traffic lights with a sensor that any [censored]
    criminal, monied, annachist, etc ) could activate to get a green, or
    conversely give someone else a red light, or

    2) a integrated set of lights that can all be controlled from a central
    command centre (which already exists) and simply requires ambulance to
    be fitted with a gps/gsm tracking device and the ability to flick a
    switch that says "emergency - unfettered path to hospital required"
    which little man at control centre responds to and sets the lights?

    Would think that traffic lights equipped with a sensor system that
    requires an encripted code to activate (code specific to emergency
    services) would be the best way to go. The little man might be on his
    coffee break, or napping, when the call goes out.


    When my dad worked for Vic Roads he often had to escort large loads through
    the city in the wee small hours of the morning. I went one morning and it
    was really cool the way they would radio the traffic control centre and
    "request a green". The next lights would change immediately to green and
    stay green until we had cleared the intersection regardless of how long it
    took. Often in the city the control centre would simply watch on the
    traffic cameras and change the traffic lights when they saw us approaching
    the intersection. I assume it must be manned 24/7.

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