height profile for route

Ben wrote on 06/05/2007 10:18:

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Does anyone know of a way of producing height profiles for planned
cycle routes? I know I can use memorymap, but it's for a ride from
London to Paris and buying all the map tiles would be extremely
expensive. I know map data is not cheap, so it may be back to the
paper maps...

www.gmap-pedometer.com has some elevation profiles, but whether it will
have all of it I don't know. It's not perfect, but it gives the gist of it.

I use it for keeping track of what I cycle - eg

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=837715

I don't know where the elevation data comes from and you might find
another google map app that does it better, but it's a start...

HTH

Peter

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Ben wrote on 06/05/2007 10:18 +0100:

Quoted message said:

Hi,

Does anyone know of a way of producing height profiles for planned
cycle routes? I know I can use memorymap, but it's for a ride from
London to Paris and buying all the map tiles would be extremely
expensive. I know map data is not cheap, so it may be back to the
paper maps...

Cheers,

Ben

http://www.sanoodi.com

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Tony

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is no good evidence either way."
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Tony Raven said:

Ben wrote on 06/05/2007 10:18 +0100:

Quoted message said:

Hi,

Quoted message said:

Does anyone know of a way of producing height profiles for planned
cycle routes? I know I can use memorymap, but it's for a ride from
London to Paris and buying all the map tiles would be extremely
expensive. I know map data is not cheap, so it may be back to the
paper maps...

Quoted message said:

Cheers,

Quoted message said:

Ben

http://www.sanoodi.com

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Tony

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- Bertrand Russell

Hi Tony,

That one looks good. I've been using the marengo gpx route planner
(http://www.marengo-ltd.com/map/), which is absolutely awesome, but
doesn't show height profiles. Ideally I'm looking for something that I
can upload my gpx route to and view the resulting profile, but I
realise I may not be able to both have and eat my cake :-)

Cheers,

Ben

Ben said:

Hi,

Does anyone know of a way of producing height profiles for planned
cycle routes? I know I can use memorymap, but it's for a ride from
London to Paris and buying all the map tiles would be extremely
expensive. I know map data is not cheap, so it may be back to the
paper maps...

http://www.bikely.com/
(see my evening ride as an example)
http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Blakeney-Circuit17896
and
http://www.toporoute.com/routePlanner.html
based on Google so you have to scroll across to Europe Toporoute does
follow roads so you don't have to enter waypoints - example of one I did
on toporoute and put on bikely
http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/arenas-lagos-de-covadonga
Enjoy your ride
Dan Gregory

Ben wrote on 06/05/2007 10:45 +0100:

Quoted message said:

Hi Tony,

That one looks good. I've been using the marengo gpx route planner
(http://www.marengo-ltd.com/map/), which is absolutely awesome, but
doesn't show height profiles. Ideally I'm looking for something that I
can upload my gpx route to and view the resulting profile, but I
realise I may not be able to both have and eat my cake :-)

Sanoodi shows height profiles and has a contour map view on the Google
mapping to help choose your route. Once you've saved a route you can
download it to GPX and you can also link points on your route to your
Flikr photos. Uploading of GPX files is also catered for. So it looks
like its eating cake day!

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Ben wrote on 06/05/2007 10:18 +0100:

Quoted message said:

Hi,

Does anyone know of a way of producing height profiles for planned
cycle routes? I know I can use memorymap, but it's for a ride from
London to Paris and buying all the map tiles would be extremely
expensive. I know map data is not cheap, so it may be back to the
paper maps...

Cheers,

Ben

http://www.sanoodi.com

--

Thanks for the link! I've just used it to plot the profile of a route in
the Canadian Rockies that I've ridden a couple of times. It looks
horrifying in retrospect!
Graham

Dan Gregory said:

Ben said:

Hi,

Does anyone know of a way of producing height profiles for planned
cycle routes? I know I can use memorymap, but it's for a ride from
London to Paris and buying all the map tiles would be extremely
expensive. I know map data is not cheap, so it may be back to the
paper maps...

http://www.bikely.com/
(see my evening ride as an example)
http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Blakeney-Circuit17896
and
http://www.toporoute.com/routePlanner.html
based on Google so you have to scroll across to Europe Toporoute does
follow roads so you don't have to enter waypoints - example of one I
did on toporoute and put on bikely
http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/arenas-lagos-de-covadonga
Enjoy your ride
Dan Gregory

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Thanks for the link to Toporoute. I've been using Bikely for a while now
and the road following feature in Toporoute seems to be just the thing for
capturing the little twists and turns which can get missed.

Nigel

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Dan Gregory said:

Ben said:

Hi,

Does anyone know of a way of producing height profiles for planned
cycle routes? I know I can use memorymap, but it's for a ride from
London to Paris and buying all the map tiles would be extremely
expensive. I know map data is not cheap, so it may be back to the
paper maps...

http://www.bikely.com/
(see my evening ride as an example)
http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Blakeney-Circuit17896
and
http://www.toporoute.com/routePlanner.html
based on Google so you have to scroll across to Europe Toporoute does
follow roads so you don't have to enter waypoints - example of one I
did on toporoute and put on bikely
http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/arenas-lagos-de-covadonga
Enjoy your ride
Dan Gregory

Thanks for the link to Toporoute.  I've been using Bikely for a while now
and the road following feature in Toporoute seems to be just the thing

for

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capturing the little twists and turns which can get missed.

I played with both yesterday (Linux, both Konqueror and Firefox) Toporoute
worked extremely well for short routes, but beyond a certain point - I
don't know whether it's number of waypoints, number of junctions, or just
distance - it locks up. Also, the elevation button remained greyed for me
all the time and never ungreyed. Does it work better with Internet
Exploder?

Sanoodi is obviously more primitive but Just Worked[tm].

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Simon Brooke wrote on 07/05/2007 08:46 +0100:

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I played with both yesterday (Linux, both Konqueror and Firefox) Toporoute
worked extremely well for short routes, but beyond a certain point - I
don't know whether it's number of waypoints, number of junctions, or just
distance - it locks up. Also, the elevation button remained greyed for me
all the time and never ungreyed. Does it work better with Internet
Exploder?

Sanoodi is obviously more primitive but Just Worked[tm].

I was looking to see if there was a way to export a GPX from Toporoute
into Sanoodi but there doesn't seem to be an export function. There is
a GPX button but its greyed out. I didn't have your problem with a 100k
route except that there were multiple points on the elevation profile
that created script errors. I had to switch off the refresh function to
stop the warnings popping up after every few waypoints added. Using
Firefox.

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Tony

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is no good evidence either way."
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I was looking to see if there was a way to export a GPX from Toporoute
into Sanoodi but there doesn't seem to be an export function. There is a
GPX button but its greyed out. I didn't have your problem with a 100k
route except that there were multiple points on the elevation profile that
created script errors. I had to switch off the refresh function to stop
the warnings popping up after every few waypoints added. Using Firefox.

--
Tony

"The most savage controversies are those about matters as to which there
is no good evidence either way."
- Bertrand Russell

I have been using gmap-pedometer but at first glance Toporoute seems better
with its road following and larger map area - thanks urcers for the link.

The GPX button seems to work OK in IE7 on the route that I tried.

John Wilton wrote on 07/05/2007 09:42 +0100:

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I have been using gmap-pedometer but at first glance Toporoute seems better
with its road following and larger map area - thanks urcers for the link.

The GPX button seems to work OK in IE7 on the route that I tried.

Just tried switching the route I tried to IE7 and the GPX button
remained greyed out.

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John Wilton wrote on 07/05/2007 09:42 +0100:

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I have been using gmap-pedometer but at first glance Toporoute seems
better with its road following and larger map area - thanks urcers for
the link.

The GPX button seems to work OK in IE7 on the route that I tried.

Just tried switching the route I tried to IE7 and the GPX button remained
greyed out.

--
Tony

"The most savage controversies are those about matters as to which there
is no good evidence either way."
- Bertrand Russell

I kept on adding points to a random route and eventually the GPX button
greyed out - there appears to be a limit of approximately 1000 trackpoints.
I think that the follow roads feature adds lots of trackpoints on twiddly
bits.

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Simon Brooke wrote on 07/05/2007 08:46 +0100:

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I played with both yesterday (Linux, both Konqueror and Firefox)
Toporoute worked extremely well for short routes, but beyond a certain
point - I don't know whether it's number of waypoints, number of
junctions, or just distance - it locks up. Also, the elevation button
remained greyed for me all the time and never ungreyed. Does it work
better with Internet Exploder?

Sanoodi is obviously more primitive but Just Worked[tm].

I was looking to see if there was a way to export a GPX from Toporoute
into Sanoodi but there doesn't seem to be an export function. There is
a GPX button but its greyed out.

H'mmm... I've now been playing with Toporoute on IE 7 on Windows XP. It
performs much better than on Firefox on Linux, and the GPX button works,
saving a GPX file to your local machine. Interestingly routes created on
IE7 on Windows open OK with Firefox on Linux, but they still don't scroll
or scale very well.

The route of next month's 7/24 is here:

http://www.toporoute.com/cgi-bin/getSavedRoute.cgi?routeKey=HLHGJJAFELUGHLB
http://www.toporoute.com/cgi-bin/getSavedRoute.cgi?routeKey=ORJSPPXTIRNFHYF
http://www.toporoute.com/cgi-bin/getSavedRoute.cgi?routeKey=VRSVECUWJYDGLMJ
http://www.toporoute.com/cgi-bin/getSavedRoute.cgi?routeKey=JYNBXJAYFXDBLHQ
http://www.toporoute.com/cgi-bin/getSavedRoute.cgi?routeKey=GXNGQQYDEPAJJRC

(it's in stages because Toporoute refuses to save a single route that
long).

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John Wilton wrote on 07/05/2007 10:19 +0100:

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I kept on adding points to a random route and eventually the GPX button
greyed out - there appears to be a limit of approximately 1000 trackpoints.
I think that the follow roads feature adds lots of trackpoints on twiddly
bits.

I tried that with a new route and got the GPX button to work.
Unfortunately the file it creates does not import into Sanoodi. Shame.

--
Tony

"The most savage controversies are those about matters as to which there
is no good evidence either way."
- Bertrand Russell

Simon Brooke said:

The route of next month's 7/24 is here:

http://www.toporoute.com/cgi-bin/getSavedRoute.cgi?routeKey=HLHGJJAFELUGHLB
http://www.toporoute.com/cgi-bin/getSavedRoute.cgi?routeKey=ORJSPPXTIRNFHYF
http://www.toporoute.com/cgi-bin/getSavedRoute.cgi?routeKey=VRSVECUWJYDGLMJ
http://www.toporoute.com/cgi-bin/getSavedRoute.cgi?routeKey=JYNBXJAYFXDBLHQ
http://www.toporoute.com/cgi-bin/getSavedRoute.cgi?routeKey=GXNGQQYDEPAJJRC

(it's in stages because Toporoute refuses to save a single route that
long).

Very useful, thank you. I will share with the team.

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Tony Raven said:

John Wilton wrote on 07/05/2007 10:19 +0100:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I kept on adding points to a random route and eventually the GPX button
greyed out - there appears to be a limit of approximately 1000 trackpoints.
I think that the follow roads feature adds lots of trackpoints on twiddly
bits.

I tried that with a new route and got the GPX button to work.
Unfortunately the file it creates does not import into Sanoodi. Shame.

Have you tried GPSBabel? It can read the GPX file from Toporoute, and
can export many different formats.

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