Heiden chasing Longo

[Michael Press]

In article <[email protected]>,
MagillaGorilla <[email protected]> wrote:

> [email protected] wrote:
> > On Jan 21, 7:42 pm, MagillaGorilla <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>Why don't you post her times compared to today's skaters and see how
> >>supposedly 'great' she was.
> >>
> >>Magilla
> >
> >
> > This is truly impressive ignorance. Skating time today can no longer
> > be compared meaningfully to anything
> > previous to 1998 because of the introduction of clap skates. It's like
> > comparing time trial times today to those before aero bars.
> >
> > I'm wondering how you're going to get out of this one.
> >
> > -ilan
> >
>
>
> So compare to 1998. That should be good enough to show that Heiden
> wouldn't have qualified for the Olympics had she competed in the 1990's.
>
> Even Floyd Landis says the Olympics is ********:
>
> http://www.velonews.com/race/int/articles/13939.0.html

He [Steve Johnson] explained that USA Cycling is not
responsible for deciding [a sentence], they are only
responsible for enforcing it. That means that had he
paid attention, and made the decision that that was the
wrong outcome, he was not under any obligation to
enforce it. It's evident in the way the Spanish
federation has dealt with Iban Mayo, where the UCI just
goes around shopping for test results that they like.

The Spanish federation decided we're not going to
enforce that, sorry. That's what Steve Johnson could
have done - had he been astute enough to pay attention
and intelligent enough to understand it. It's possible
he's not smart enough to understand the science. But
in that case he shouldn't be in charge of USA Cycling.

--
Michael Press

 

[Michael Press]

In article <[email protected]>,
MagillaGorilla <[email protected]> wrote:

> [email protected] wrote:
> > On Jan 21, 7:42 pm, MagillaGorilla <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>Why don't you post her times compared to today's skaters and see how
> >>supposedly 'great' she was.
> >>
> >>Magilla
> >
> >
> > This is truly impressive ignorance. Skating time today can no longer
> > be compared meaningfully to anything
> > previous to 1998 because of the introduction of clap skates. It's like
> > comparing time trial times today to those before aero bars.
> >
> > I'm wondering how you're going to get out of this one.
> >
> > -ilan
> >
>
>
> So compare to 1998. That should be good enough to show that Heiden
> wouldn't have qualified for the Olympics had she competed in the 1990's.
>
> Even Floyd Landis says the Olympics is ********:
>
> http://www.velonews.com/race/int/articles/13939.0.html

From my point of view, the problem that is taking
cycling backwards and not forwards is that it's
becoming polarized. You have teams like Team High
Horse, or whatever they're called these days, and
Jonathan Vaughters' team, and they are saying we don't
care about winning, we just want to be clean and so
it's okay with us to get whatever place we get because
we're not doping. You know what? That's one of the most
offensive things you could ever say. That immediately
accuses everyone who finishes ahead you of doping.
That's hypocrisy. That's asinine. They have to stop
saying that. It's all fine and good that they are
against doping, but for them to say we're not
interested in winning, we're just interested in being
clean is an accusation of anyone that is better than them.

--
Michael Press

 

[Michael Press]

In article <[email protected]>,
MagillaGorilla <[email protected]> wrote:

> [email protected] wrote:
> > On Jan 21, 7:42 pm, MagillaGorilla <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>Why don't you post her times compared to today's skaters and see how
> >>supposedly 'great' she was.
> >>
> >>Magilla
> >
> >
> > This is truly impressive ignorance. Skating time today can no longer
> > be compared meaningfully to anything
> > previous to 1998 because of the introduction of clap skates. It's like
> > comparing time trial times today to those before aero bars.
> >
> > I'm wondering how you're going to get out of this one.
> >
> > -ilan
> >
>
>
> So compare to 1998. That should be good enough to show that Heiden
> wouldn't have qualified for the Olympics had she competed in the 1990's.
>
> Even Floyd Landis says the Olympics is ********:
>
> http://www.velonews.com/race/int/articles/13939.0.html

"I want to make clear my intention is not to make Steve
Johnson look bad. I believe he is intelligent enough to
be in the position he's in, and I believe he has the
right intentions. But I also understand that he's
afraid politically to say anything, when that shouldn't
be the case. There shouldn't be political pressure on
Steve Johnson to avoid the answers to those questions.
The problem is not Steve Johnson, the problem is the
fact that there's pressure on him to be unable to
answer those questions. That in itself is a problem."

Come one Floyd, don't pull punches.
Call him a spineles invertebrate.

--
Michael Press

 

[Donald Munro]

ilanpsi wrote:
> I find Magilla somewhat similar to the failed graduate student types who
> dominate Wikipedia editing. They will insist on removing anything you
> contribute on your own area of expertise and will be undaunted until I
> call on one of my own WIkipedia admin friends. It's all part of the
> democratization of the Internet, the price to pay for freedom.

I wonder if he's tried to edit this page:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorilla>

 

[[email protected]]

On Jan 21, 5:49 pm, Steven Bornfeld <[email protected]>
wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> > I remember poor old Eddy Merckx not getting a lot of slack from you,
> > either, Maggie. Actually, the word is "respect". That's OK, like they
> > say, you know he is but I doubt the reverse is true <g>.
>
> > I never saw Eddy race, except with Lance at the Greune two-man TT. I
> > saw Beth ride in the Coors, 1980. Class of the field.
>
> > They're both still "great", and you don't have to agree, feces-
> > flinger.
>
> > And my God, what will the world come to if people compete in non-
> > professional sports and *enjoy themselves* while having successful
> > careers and raising families and so forth? Extra props for former
> > pros, Olympians, UCI (international class) riders, etc. who can juggle
> > "all the above".
>
> > I mean, we get the hierarchy and history stuff already, OK?
>
> > Give it a rest, go on to the Superbowl?
>
> > Giants by 11.  --D-y
>
>         Nice post--thanks.

You're welcome, Giants fan <g>. --D-y

 

[[email protected]]

On Jan 22, 7:17 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jan 21, 5:49 pm, Steven Bornfeld <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > [email protected] wrote:
>
> > > I remember poor old Eddy Merckx not getting a lot of slack from you,
> > > either, Maggie. Actually, the word is "respect". That's OK, like they
> > > say, you know he is but I doubt the reverse is true <g>.
>
> > > I never saw Eddy race, except with Lance at the Greune two-man TT. I
> > > saw Beth ride in the Coors, 1980. Class of the field.
>
> > > They're both still "great", and you don't have to agree, feces-
> > > flinger.
>
> > > And my God, what will the world come to if people compete in non-
> > > professional sports and *enjoy themselves* while having successful
> > > careers and raising families and so forth? Extra props for former
> > > pros, Olympians, UCI (international class) riders, etc. who can juggle
> > > "all the above".
>
> > > I mean, we get the hierarchy and history stuff already, OK?
>
> > > Give it a rest, go on to the Superbowl?
>
> > >Giantsby11.  --D-y
>
> >         Nice post--thanks.
>
> You're welcome,Giantsfan <g>.  --D-y

Missed the spread. Had confidence in the D. Got the V. Sweet.

Sons of Niskayuna, rejoice! --D-y

 

[Bill C]

On Feb 3, 11:44 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jan 22, 7:17 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 21, 5:49 pm, Steven Bornfeld <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > [email protected] wrote:
>
> > > > I remember poor old Eddy Merckx not getting a lot of slack from you,
> > > > either, Maggie. Actually, the word is "respect". That's OK, like they
> > > > say, you know he is but I doubt the reverse is true <g>.
>
> > > > I never saw Eddy race, except with Lance at the Greune two-man TT. I
> > > > saw Beth ride in the Coors, 1980. Class of the field.
>
> > > > They're both still "great", and you don't have to agree, feces-
> > > > flinger.
>
> > > > And my God, what will the world come to if people compete in non-
> > > > professional sports and *enjoy themselves* while having successful
> > > > careers and raising families and so forth? Extra props for former
> > > > pros, Olympians, UCI (international class) riders, etc. who can juggle
> > > > "all the above".
>
> > > > I mean, we get the hierarchy and history stuff already, OK?
>
> > > > Give it a rest, go on to the Superbowl?
>
> > > >Giantsby11.  --D-y
>
> > >         Nice post--thanks.
>
> > You're welcome,Giantsfan <g>.  --D-y
>
> Missed the spread. Had confidence in the D. Got the V. Sweet.
>
> Sons of Niskayuna, rejoice!   --D-y- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yep, nice job by the Giants. They kcked our ass from beginning to end.
No fluke that they won. They were tougher and the better team last
night.
Looks like little Eli's grown up.
Bill C