Heartburn/Acid Reflux

"BillJ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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One of the great benefits of Atkins for me was curing my heartburn and

acid

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reflux. Hadn't taken Tums in more than 3 years. Then over New Year's

weekend I

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went overboard on the carbs. Probably 60g or more for a few days. I

normally

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stay under 30g. Two nights I had heartburn and one night I had acid

reflux.

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That alone is enought to get me back on the straight and narrow.

That's one of the reasons why I like this diet. I used to have acid
reflux 2 or 3 times a week with no apparent link to which food(s) it could
be. I have not had a single bout of it since lo-carbing. I suspect it was
grains but did not experiment to identify it for sure. It could also have
been the weight of my stomach pulling to one side. All I know is that I no
longer have this problem.
My brother also has acid reflux, but uses a prescription medication to
keep it under control. I've been trying to convince him to try lo-carb, but
he believes all the negative media about the diet and doesn't want to try it
right now.
Tom
210/180/180

Tom wrote:
|| "BillJ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
|| news:[email hidden]...
||| One of the great benefits of Atkins for me was curing my heartburn
||| and acid reflux. Hadn't taken Tums in more than 3 years. Then
||| over New Year's weekend I went overboard on the carbs. Probably
||| 60g or more for a few days. I normally stay under 30g. Two nights
||| I had heartburn and one night I had acid reflux. That alone is
||| enought to get me back on the straight and narrow.
|||
||
|| That's one of the reasons why I like this diet. I used to have
|| acid reflux 2 or 3 times a week with no apparent link to which
|| food(s) it could be. I have not had a single bout of it since
|| lo-carbing. I suspect it was grains but did not experiment to
|| identify it for sure. It could also have been the weight of my
|| stomach pulling to one side. All I know is that I no longer have
|| this problem. My brother also has acid reflux, but uses a
|| prescription medication to
|| keep it under control. I've been trying to convince him to try
|| lo-carb, but he believes all the negative media about the diet and
|| doesn't want to try it right now.

I think it has something to do with having a big belly and overeating.

I note now that when i do eat a lot of carbs (65+miles in the bike) I still
don't get heatburn or reflux.

Just a theory, though.

Roger Zoul said:

Tom said:

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"BillJ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> One of the great benefits of Atkins for me was curing
> my heartburn
> and acid reflux. Hadn't taken Tums in more than 3
> years. Then
> over New Year's weekend I went overboard on the carbs.
> Probably
> 60g or more for a few days. I normally stay under 30g.
> Two nights
> I had heartburn and one night I had acid reflux. That
> alone is
> enought to get me back on the straight and narrow.
>

That's one of the reasons why I like this diet. I
used to have
acid reflux 2 or 3 times a week with no apparent link to
which
food(s) it could be. I have not had a single bout of it
since
lo-carbing. I suspect it was grains but did not
experiment to
identify it for sure. It could also have been the weight
of my
stomach pulling to one side. All I know is that I no
longer have
this problem. My brother also has acid reflux, but
uses a
prescription medication to
keep it under control. I've been trying to convince him
to try
lo-carb, but he believes all the negative media about
the diet and
doesn't want to try it right now.

I think it has something to do with having a big belly and
overeating.

I note now that when i do eat a lot of carbs (65+miles in
the bike) I
still don't get heatburn or reflux.

Just a theory, though.

In my case the heartburn and reflux went away long before
the large gut diminished...within the first couple of weeks.

--
JJ.

JJ wrote:
|| Roger Zoul wrote:
||| Tom wrote:
||||| "BillJ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
||||| news:[email hidden]...
|||||| One of the great benefits of Atkins for me was curing
|||||| my heartburn
|||||| and acid reflux. Hadn't taken Tums in more than 3
|||||| years. Then
|||||| over New Year's weekend I went overboard on the carbs.
|||||| Probably
|||||| 60g or more for a few days. I normally stay under 30g.
|||||| Two nights
|||||| I had heartburn and one night I had acid reflux. That
|||||| alone is
|||||| enought to get me back on the straight and narrow.
||||||
|||||
||||| That's one of the reasons why I like this diet. I
||||| used to have
||||| acid reflux 2 or 3 times a week with no apparent link to
||||| which
||||| food(s) it could be. I have not had a single bout of it
||||| since
||||| lo-carbing. I suspect it was grains but did not
||||| experiment to
||||| identify it for sure. It could also have been the weight
||||| of my
||||| stomach pulling to one side. All I know is that I no
||||| longer have
||||| this problem. My brother also has acid reflux, but
||||| uses a
||||| prescription medication to
||||| keep it under control. I've been trying to convince him
||||| to try
||||| lo-carb, but he believes all the negative media about
||||| the diet and
||||| doesn't want to try it right now.
|||
||| I think it has something to do with having a big belly and
||| overeating.
|||
||| I note now that when i do eat a lot of carbs (65+miles in
||| the bike) I
||| still don't get heatburn or reflux.
|||
||| Just a theory, though.
||
|| In my case the heartburn and reflux went away long before
|| the large gut diminished...within the first couple of weeks.

What about the overeating?

Roger Zoul said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>
> I think it has something to do with having a big belly
> and
> overeating.
>
> I note now that when i do eat a lot of carbs (65+miles
> in
> the bike) I
> still don't get heatburn or reflux.
>
> Just a theory, though.

In my case the heartburn and reflux went away long
before
the large gut diminished...within the first couple of
weeks.

What about the overeating?

I would not deny a connection to overeating but that was
certainly not the only factor, nor necessarily the factor of
greatest influence...for me at least. I can recall many
months (and several times) of eating on a low-fat diet at
1000-1200 calories/day where there was no relief whatsoever
from the heartburn, though it did finally tend to diminish
after a substantial loss in weight, compared to difference
with low-carb where the effect was quite rapid.

I don't know that there is one correct answer to this but
I've tended to attribute this more to food types than
quantities. There are two foods which to this day will
cause me great anguish in terms of heartburn--radishes and
raw green peppers in any quantity--but it would not surprise
me at all to find that the re-introduction of refined sugar
or batter fried stuff would start it all over again, but I'm
not about to experiment to find out.

This is certainly one of those things with lots of
variables, none of which I could begin to catalog and track
to any meaningful end outside my own experience. However,
in my own experience the difference was profound and
immediate.

Whatever the reason, I will graciously accept the end
result.

--
JJ.

Roger Zoul said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>
> I think it has something to do with having a big belly
> and
> overeating.
>
> I note now that when i do eat a lot of carbs (65+miles
> in
> the bike) I
> still don't get heatburn or reflux.
>
> Just a theory, though.

In my case the heartburn and reflux went away long
before
the large gut diminished...within the first couple of
weeks.

What about the overeating?

I would not deny a connection to overeating but that was
certainly not the only factor, nor necessarily the factor of
greatest influence...for me at least. I can recall many
months (and several times) of eating on a low-fat diet at
1000-1200 calories/day where there was no relief whatsoever
from the heartburn, though it did finally tend to diminish
after a substantial loss in weight, compared to difference
with low-carb where the effect was quite rapid.

I don't know that there is one correct answer to this but
I've tended to attribute this more to food types than
quantities. There are two foods which to this day will
cause me great anguish in terms of heartburn--radishes and
raw green peppers in any quantity--but it would not surprise
me at all to find that the re-introduction of refined sugar
or batter fried stuff would start it all over again, but I'm
not about to experiment to find out.

This is certainly one of those things with lots of
variables, none of which I could begin to catalog and track
to any meaningful end outside my own experience. However,
in my own experience the difference was profound and
immediate.

Whatever the reason, I will graciously accept the end
result.

--
JJ.

"BillJ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

One of the great benefits of Atkins for me was curing my heartburn and
acid
reflux. Hadn't taken Tums in more than 3 years. Then over New Year's
weekend I
went overboard on the carbs. Probably 60g or more for a few days. I
normally
stay under 30g. Two nights I had heartburn and one night I had acid
reflux.
That alone is enought to get me back on the straight and narrow.

I know what you mean! I used to take something (forgot what it was) that my
(ex) wife used to supply for me regularly. When I went low-carb all that
went away.

Then, one night, I was at a bar where they had free pizza. I ate.

MAJOR mistake! Haven't done that since!

"Ignoramus7928" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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When I was fat, I had AR about 3x per week. I started dieting by
eating less and dropping sugar and junk food, and walking. AR went
away almost instantly. I was not low carbing, but it was a moderate
carb diet (150/day).

I have not had AR in 1.5 years. That's despite eating "fatty foods".

I like the theory that suggests that AR is due to high post meal blood
sugar.

I wonder if there is some mechanism that slows down digestion if blood
sugars are too high. Rather than the body depositing the extra calories as
fat, it tries to slow down the digestion process. Before, when I had AR, I
noticed that my stomach still had lots of food in it. I know I used to eat a
lot more before.
Perhaps the whole process is overwelmed and causes the problems more
than the types of food. I never used to be able to eat raw onions or celery
at supper time without having heartburn later, but not always AR. Now it is
not a problem. But it seems to me that my meals aren't staying in my stomach
as long, so by bed time it is usually empty.
This topic seems to come up frequently. Many people have claimed that
lo-carbing has cured their AR. Some others have not been so lucky. I believe
that lo-carb diets are more successful for weightloss, which may be the
reason for thinking that lo-carbing cures AR rather than the weightloss
itself.
I have tried lo-cal and lo-fat diets in the past with limmited success. I
could never seem to follow such a diet for more than 3 or 4 days without
binging to make up for the calorie deficit. My thinking that grains were the
problem could be wrong. Since I did not do any experimenting because I was
unwilling to risk the AR coming back, I can not be sure as to the real
reason I am cured. I was assuming that since I cut out the bread and pastas
which I used to eat a lot of, that this was likely the culprit.
It appears that it is difficult to pinpoint the reasons for anything when
the different variables are not considered. This seems to happen on a
regular basis in regards to medical discoveries. This is probably due to
somebody realizing that previous studies have left out an important
variable. Plug in a new variable and it is quite likely that a different
outcome will be the result.
So, has lo-carbing cured my acid relux? I'm going to have to say yes. But
it is very likely that it is not a direct result of the diet. Lo-carbing has
helped me to lose all the excess weight. My AR had disappeared at the same
time and with a quickness that would make anyone assume it is the diet
itself. I am just happy that I no longer have this problem, and I'll take it
anyway it comes along, no matter what the true reason may be.

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"JJ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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Roger Zoul said:

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>>
>> I think it has something to do with having a big belly
>> and
>> overeating.
>>
>> I note now that when i do eat a lot of carbs (65+miles
>> in
>> the bike) I
>> still don't get heatburn or reflux.
>>
>> Just a theory, though.
>
> In my case the heartburn and reflux went away long
> before
> the large gut diminished...within the first couple of
> weeks.

What about the overeating?

I would not deny a connection to overeating but that was
certainly not the only factor, nor necessarily the factor of
greatest influence...for me at least. I can recall many
months (and several times) of eating on a low-fat diet at
1000-1200 calories/day where there was no relief whatsoever
from the heartburn, though it did finally tend to diminish
after a substantial loss in weight, compared to difference
with low-carb where the effect was quite rapid.

I could never stay on a low cal or low fat diet long enough to see
results. When lo-carbing, the results were immediate for me as well.

Quoted message said:

I don't know that there is one correct answer to this but
I've tended to attribute this more to food types than
quantities. There are two foods which to this day will
cause me great anguish in terms of heartburn--radishes and
raw green peppers in any quantity--but it would not surprise
me at all to find that the re-introduction of refined sugar
or batter fried stuff would start it all over again, but I'm
not about to experiment to find out.

I am able to eat raw onions and celery now without problems. Like you, I
am unwilling to experiment to find out the true cause.

Quoted message said:

This is certainly one of those things with lots of
variables, none of which I could begin to catalog and track
to any meaningful end outside my own experience. However,
in my own experience the difference was profound and
immediate.

Same here.

Quoted message said:

Whatever the reason, I will graciously accept the end
result.

It certainly is good to not have the problem anymore.

Quoted message said:

--
JJ.

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Tom wrote:
|| "BillJ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
|| news:[email hidden]...
||| One of the great benefits of Atkins for me was curing my heartburn
||| and acid reflux. Hadn't taken Tums in more than 3 years. Then
||| over New Year's weekend I went overboard on the carbs. Probably
||| 60g or more for a few days. I normally stay under 30g. Two nights
||| I had heartburn and one night I had acid reflux. That alone is
||| enought to get me back on the straight and narrow.
|||
||
|| That's one of the reasons why I like this diet. I used to have
|| acid reflux 2 or 3 times a week with no apparent link to which
|| food(s) it could be. I have not had a single bout of it since
|| lo-carbing. I suspect it was grains but did not experiment to
|| identify it for sure. It could also have been the weight of my
|| stomach pulling to one side. All I know is that I no longer have
|| this problem. My brother also has acid reflux, but uses a
|| prescription medication to
|| keep it under control. I've been trying to convince him to try
|| lo-carb, but he believes all the negative media about the diet and
|| doesn't want to try it right now.

I think it has something to do with having a big belly and overeating.

I note now that when i do eat a lot of carbs (65+miles in the bike) I

still

Quoted message said:

don't get heatburn or reflux.

Just a theory, though.

It could very well be the reason for my cure, or a combination of
factors. It's difficult to tell for sure. When I started the diet, I had
read DANDR and various articles on the net that claimed lo-carbing as a cure
for AR. Of course when I found the same immediate results, I already had a
frame of mind for believing this to be true. Since I was so happy about
these results, I would tell anybody who would listen to me about my good
fortune. My beliefs are likely flawed but still ended up working dispite of
it.

Quoted message said:

Tom wrote:
|| "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
|| news:[email hidden]...
||| Tom wrote:
||||| "BillJ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
||||| news:[email hidden]...
|||||| One of the great benefits of Atkins for me was curing my
|||||| heartburn and acid reflux. Hadn't taken Tums in more than 3
|||||| years. Then
|||||| over New Year's weekend I went overboard on the carbs. Probably
|||||| 60g or more for a few days. I normally stay under 30g. Two
|||||| nights
|||||| I had heartburn and one night I had acid reflux. That alone is
|||||| enought to get me back on the straight and narrow.
||||||
|||||
||||| That's one of the reasons why I like this diet. I used to have
||||| acid reflux 2 or 3 times a week with no apparent link to which
||||| food(s) it could be. I have not had a single bout of it since
||||| lo-carbing. I suspect it was grains but did not experiment to
||||| identify it for sure. It could also have been the weight of my
||||| stomach pulling to one side. All I know is that I no longer have
||||| this problem. My brother also has acid reflux, but uses a
||||| prescription medication to
||||| keep it under control. I've been trying to convince him to try
||||| lo-carb, but he believes all the negative media about the diet and
||||| doesn't want to try it right now.
|||
||| I think it has something to do with having a big belly and
||| overeating.
|||
||| I note now that when i do eat a lot of carbs (65+miles in the bike)
||| I still don't get heatburn or reflux.
|||
||| Just a theory, though.
||
|| It could very well be the reason for my cure, or a combination of
|| factors. It's difficult to tell for sure. When I started the diet, I
|| had read DANDR and various articles on the net that claimed
|| lo-carbing as a cure for AR. Of course when I found the same
|| immediate results, I already had a frame of mind for believing this
|| to be true. Since I was so happy about these results, I would tell
|| anybody who would listen to me about my good fortune. My beliefs are
|| likely flawed but still ended up working dispite of it.

One of my reasons for thinking that the cure is not strictly due to low carb
is because when I lost 100 lbs on low fat with lots of exercise, those
problems disappeared then to. Of course, when I was doing that, I had a
"clean" carb heavy diet, with very little refined carbs.

In both cases, though, my gut fat decreased so much as I no long had a
protruding belly. Even though I ate a greater volume of food on low fat
than I do on low carb, I still had no problems. Of course, on low fat I was
riding 40 miles per day - over an extended period of time - on a stationary
bike - a feat I could never manage now due ot the sheer boredom of it.
These days, I just prefer to eat less.

Tom wrote:
|| "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
|| news:[email hidden]...
||| Tom wrote:
||||| "BillJ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
||||| news:[email hidden]...
|||||| One of the great benefits of Atkins for me was curing my
|||||| heartburn and acid reflux. Hadn't taken Tums in more than 3
|||||| years. Then
|||||| over New Year's weekend I went overboard on the carbs. Probably
|||||| 60g or more for a few days. I normally stay under 30g. Two
|||||| nights
|||||| I had heartburn and one night I had acid reflux. That alone is
|||||| enought to get me back on the straight and narrow.
||||||
|||||
||||| That's one of the reasons why I like this diet. I used to have
||||| acid reflux 2 or 3 times a week with no apparent link to which
||||| food(s) it could be. I have not had a single bout of it since
||||| lo-carbing. I suspect it was grains but did not experiment to
||||| identify it for sure. It could also have been the weight of my
||||| stomach pulling to one side. All I know is that I no longer have
||||| this problem. My brother also has acid reflux, but uses a
||||| prescription medication to
||||| keep it under control. I've been trying to convince him to try
||||| lo-carb, but he believes all the negative media about the diet and
||||| doesn't want to try it right now.
|||
||| I think it has something to do with having a big belly and
||| overeating.
|||
||| I note now that when i do eat a lot of carbs (65+miles in the bike)
||| I still don't get heatburn or reflux.
|||
||| Just a theory, though.
||
|| It could very well be the reason for my cure, or a combination of
|| factors. It's difficult to tell for sure. When I started the diet, I
|| had read DANDR and various articles on the net that claimed
|| lo-carbing as a cure for AR. Of course when I found the same
|| immediate results, I already had a frame of mind for believing this
|| to be true. Since I was so happy about these results, I would tell
|| anybody who would listen to me about my good fortune. My beliefs are
|| likely flawed but still ended up working dispite of it.

One of my reasons for thinking that the cure is not strictly due to low carb
is because when I lost 100 lbs on low fat with lots of exercise, those
problems disappeared then to. Of course, when I was doing that, I had a
"clean" carb heavy diet, with very little refined carbs.

In both cases, though, my gut fat decreased so much as I no long had a
protruding belly. Even though I ate a greater volume of food on low fat
than I do on low carb, I still had no problems. Of course, on low fat I was
riding 40 miles per day - over an extended period of time - on a stationary
bike - a feat I could never manage now due ot the sheer boredom of it.
These days, I just prefer to eat less.

Tom wrote:
|| "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
|| news:[email hidden]...
||| Tom wrote:
||||| "BillJ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
||||| news:[email hidden]...
|||||| One of the great benefits of Atkins for me was curing my
|||||| heartburn and acid reflux. Hadn't taken Tums in more than 3
|||||| years. Then
|||||| over New Year's weekend I went overboard on the carbs. Probably
|||||| 60g or more for a few days. I normally stay under 30g. Two
|||||| nights
|||||| I had heartburn and one night I had acid reflux. That alone is
|||||| enought to get me back on the straight and narrow.
||||||
|||||
||||| That's one of the reasons why I like this diet. I used to have
||||| acid reflux 2 or 3 times a week with no apparent link to which
||||| food(s) it could be. I have not had a single bout of it since
||||| lo-carbing. I suspect it was grains but did not experiment to
||||| identify it for sure. It could also have been the weight of my
||||| stomach pulling to one side. All I know is that I no longer have
||||| this problem. My brother also has acid reflux, but uses a
||||| prescription medication to
||||| keep it under control. I've been trying to convince him to try
||||| lo-carb, but he believes all the negative media about the diet and
||||| doesn't want to try it right now.
|||
||| I think it has something to do with having a big belly and
||| overeating.
|||
||| I note now that when i do eat a lot of carbs (65+miles in the bike)
||| I still don't get heatburn or reflux.
|||
||| Just a theory, though.
||
|| It could very well be the reason for my cure, or a combination of
|| factors. It's difficult to tell for sure. When I started the diet, I
|| had read DANDR and various articles on the net that claimed
|| lo-carbing as a cure for AR. Of course when I found the same
|| immediate results, I already had a frame of mind for believing this
|| to be true. Since I was so happy about these results, I would tell
|| anybody who would listen to me about my good fortune. My beliefs are
|| likely flawed but still ended up working dispite of it.

One of my reasons for thinking that the cure is not strictly due to low carb
is because when I lost 100 lbs on low fat with lots of exercise, those
problems disappeared then to. Of course, when I was doing that, I had a
"clean" carb heavy diet, with very little refined carbs.

In both cases, though, my gut fat decreased so much as I no long had a
protruding belly. Even though I ate a greater volume of food on low fat
than I do on low carb, I still had no problems. Of course, on low fat I was
riding 40 miles per day - over an extended period of time - on a stationary
bike - a feat I could never manage now due ot the sheer boredom of it.
These days, I just prefer to eat less.

On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 20:05:26 -0500, JJ wrote in
alt.support.diet.low-carb:

Quoted message said:

Roger Zoul said:

Tom said:

> "BillJ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:[email hidden]...
>> One of the great benefits of Atkins for me was curing
>> my heartburn
>> and acid reflux. Hadn't taken Tums in more than 3
>> years. Then
>> over New Year's weekend I went overboard on the carbs.
>> Probably
>> 60g or more for a few days. I normally stay under 30g.
>> Two nights
>> I had heartburn and one night I had acid reflux. That
>> alone is
>> enought to get me back on the straight and narrow.
>>
>
> That's one of the reasons why I like this diet. I
> used to have
> acid reflux 2 or 3 times a week with no apparent link to
> which
> food(s) it could be. I have not had a single bout of it
> since
> lo-carbing. I suspect it was grains but did not
> experiment to
> identify it for sure. It could also have been the weight
> of my
> stomach pulling to one side. All I know is that I no
> longer have
> this problem. My brother also has acid reflux, but
> uses a
> prescription medication to
> keep it under control. I've been trying to convince him
> to try
> lo-carb, but he believes all the negative media about
> the diet and
> doesn't want to try it right now.

I think it has something to do with having a big belly and
overeating.

I note now that when i do eat a lot of carbs (65+miles in
the bike) I
still don't get heatburn or reflux.

Just a theory, though.

In my case the heartburn and reflux went away long before
the large gut diminished...within the first couple of weeks.

Me too!!!

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