Healing Time on Stress fracture

Don't rush. Take more time off. Another couple of weeks
would be good. What's the hurry?

--
Colm

"Joe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
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: So its been 4.5 weeks off of my leg. I have taken the last
: two weeks completely off. My shin is pretty much pain free
: to the touch, but it will probably take another two-three
: days. I may be running again this week!
:
:
: WHOOPEEE!
:
:

Quoted message said:

Don't rush. Take more time off. Another couple of weeks
would be good. What's the hurry?

Boston Marathon 4/19, as I recall.

i kissed that goodbye. i may run the first few miles if i can. i know it
needs at least one more week off. just an excuse for me to get stoned off
my ass everyday. :-)

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Quoted message said:

Don't rush. Take more time off. Another couple of weeks
would be good.

What's

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the hurry?

Boston Marathon 4/19, as I recall.

It varies a great amount. Ave. is about 6, but it can
be as little as 4, and it took me (an old dog of 45) a
good 8 weeks.

Did you get an x-ray? What kind of trauma was it? "Stress
fracture" comprises a continuum from soft tissue damage to
an outright fracture.

One bit of advice from experience: cross-train as much as
you can (getting stoned may help in this regard). After the
fracture has healed you will still have some residual pain
that, unlike the fracture pain, must be trained through (but
sensibly). The residual pain is caused by muscle soreness
and periosteal inflammation, and the longer you wait, the
longer it will take to eventually adapt to your old regimen.
I would hope your doc would give you advice on this front.

Best of luck.

Scott

Joe said:

i kissed that goodbye. i may run the first few miles if i
can. i know it needs at least one more week off. just an
excuse for me to get stoned off my ass everyday. :-)

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Don't rush. Take more time off. Another couple of weeks
would be good.

What's

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the hurry?

Boston Marathon 4/19, as I recall.

No insurance=no doc= no x-ray. I saw an athletic trainer and
he told me that he was confident it was a stress fracture. I
really don't see that it could be anything else. I took two
weeks completely off since I was planning on doing that
anyway after boston marathon. i've just started to exercise
again and don't feel to shabby but it will take awhile to
get back into things.

the fracture was on the anterior medial side of my shin. It
hurt most when I pulled the muscle away from the shin and
pushed on the bone about 3 inches from the center of my
medial malleolus.

jOe

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It varies a great amount. Ave. is about 6, but it can be
as little as 4, and it took me (an old dog of 45) a good
8 weeks.

Did you get an x-ray? What kind of trauma was it? "Stress
fracture" comprises a continuum from soft tissue damage to
an outright fracture.

One bit of advice from experience: cross-train as much as
you can (getting stoned may help in this regard). After
the fracture has healed you will still have some residual
pain that, unlike the fracture pain, must be trained
through (but sensibly). The residual pain is caused by
muscle soreness and periosteal inflammation, and the
longer you wait, the longer it will take to eventually
adapt to your old regimen. I would hope your doc would
give you advice on this front.

Best of luck.

Scott

Joe said:

i kissed that goodbye. i may run the first few miles if
i can. i know

it

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needs at least one more week off. just an excuse for me
to get stoned

off

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my ass everyday. :-)

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>Don't rush. Take more time off. Another couple of weeks
>would be good.

What's

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>the hurry?

Boston Marathon 4/19, as I recall.

Joe said:

No insurance=no doc= no x-ray. I saw an athletic trainer
and he told me that he was confident it was a stress
fracture. I really don't see that it could be anything
else. I took two weeks completely off since I was planning
on doing that anyway after boston marathon. i've just
started to exercise again and don't feel to shabby but it
will take awhile to get back into things.

Gotcha. Here's hoping you can heal up soon.

Out of curiosity, coming off the same injury, did it hit you
out of the blue, or was it preceded by bad splints? Are you
switching shoes or doing anything differently?

Scott

Shin splints hit me first. If I would have stopped and
rested then I would still probably be going to Boston.

I didnt' change a damn thing. I had been running consistent
55-60 mpw back in November and December. In January and Feb
I increased the intensity and mileage a little, but not
much. I live in Milwaukee and we had a boat load of snow for
a good three weeks that made the ground difficult to run on.
In all honesty I have no idea what caused it. I am flat
footed and pronate quite a bit (I will be running with
orthotics now). I also have been stretching a lot to loosen
up my ITB and calves.

I am perplexed as to what caused it. Any ideas from people
would be appreciated.

Joe

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Quoted message said:

Joe said:

No insurance=no doc= no x-ray. I saw an athletic trainer
and he told me that he was confident it was a stress
fracture. I really don't see that

it

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could be anything else. I took two weeks completely off
since I was planning on doing that anyway after boston
marathon. i've just started

to

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exercise again and don't feel to shabby but it will take
awhile to get

back

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into things.

Gotcha. Here's hoping you can heal up soon.

Out of curiosity, coming off the same injury, did it hit
you out of the blue, or was it preceded by bad splints?
Are you switching shoes or doing anything differently?

Scott

I get all sorts of weird twinges and pains running on uneven
packed snow. Maybe that combined with the increase in
mileage and intensity pushed you over the edge? And perhaps
your shoes were at the end of their lifespan?

When I asked my sports doc what I did wrong leading up to my
injury, she shrugged and said, "Nothing. Some people are
just prone to them." She did allow that it was a good bet
that I should trash my (then) current shoes.

I'm definitely coming around to the school of thought that
it's primarily a matter of getting the right orthotics and
right shoes.

I did get splints in my cross-country days in high school
and beat them by getting arch supports. This time around
it's greatly helped going back to my NBs, but a new model
this time (815s).

I pronate as well (but have very high arches), and I have
the same medial-tibial pain. Makes intuitive sense that if
you can correct the pronation, you can take much of the load
off of the medial tibia.

I will breathe a huge sigh of relief when I'm finally
convinced they're gone for good.

Joe said:

Shin splints hit me first. If I would have stopped and
rested then I would still probably be going to Boston.

I didnt' change a damn thing. I had been running
consistent 55-60 mpw back in November and December. In
January and Feb I increased the intensity and mileage a
little, but not much. I live in Milwaukee and we had a
boat load of snow for a good three weeks that made the
ground difficult to run on. In all honesty I have no idea
what caused it. I am flat footed and pronate quite a bit
(I will be running with orthotics now). I also have been
stretching a lot to loosen up my ITB and calves.

I am perplexed as to what caused it. Any ideas from people
would be appreciated.

Joe

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Quoted message said:

Joe said:

No insurance=no doc= no x-ray. I saw an athletic trainer
and he told me that he was confident it was a stress
fracture. I really don't see that

it

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Quoted message said:

could be anything else. I took two weeks completely off
since I was planning on doing that anyway after boston
marathon. i've just started

to

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

exercise again and don't feel to shabby but it will take
awhile to get

back

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into things.

Gotcha. Here's hoping you can heal up soon.

Out of curiosity, coming off the same injury, did it hit
you out of the blue, or was it preceded by bad splints?
Are you switching shoes or doing anything differently?

Scott

I did my first run in 5 weeks today. i felt pretty good. my
shin twinged a little after the run but i think it is fine.
we'll see how it feels tomorrow.

my form changed from all the ITB stretching i did. my foot
strike is much more even between my feet and i don't roll so
much. it made a bit difference.

thanks for you advice.

jOe

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Quoted message said:

I get all sorts of weird twinges and pains running on
uneven packed snow. Maybe that combined with the increase
in mileage and intensity pushed you over the edge? And
perhaps your shoes were at the end of their lifespan?

When I asked my sports doc what I did wrong leading up to
my injury, she shrugged and said, "Nothing. Some people
are just prone to them." She did allow that it was a good
bet that I should trash my (then) current shoes.

I'm definitely coming around to the school of thought that
it's primarily a matter of getting the right orthotics and
right shoes.

I did get splints in my cross-country days in high school
and beat them by getting arch supports. This time around
it's greatly helped going back to my NBs, but a new model
this time (815s).

I pronate as well (but have very high arches), and I have
the same medial-tibial pain. Makes intuitive sense that if
you can correct the pronation, you can take much of the
load off of the medial tibia.

I will breathe a huge sigh of relief when I'm finally
convinced they're gone for good.

Joe said:

Shin splints hit me first. If I would have stopped and
rested then I

would

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still probably be going to Boston.

I didnt' change a damn thing. I had been running
consistent 55-60 mpw

back

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

in November and December. In January and Feb I increased
the intensity

and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

mileage a little, but not much. I live in Milwaukee and
we had a boat

load

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Quoted message said:

of snow for a good three weeks that made the ground
difficult to run on.

In

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

all honesty I have no idea what caused it. I am flat
footed and pronate quite a bit (I will be running with
orthotics now). I also have been stretching a lot to
loosen up my ITB and calves.

I am perplexed as to what caused it. Any ideas from
people would be appreciated.

Joe

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Joe wrote:

>No insurance=no doc= no x-ray. I saw an athletic
>trainer and he told

me

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>that he was confident it was a stress fracture. I
>really don't see

that

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it

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>could be anything else. I took two weeks completely off
>since I was planning on doing that anyway after boston
>marathon. i've just started

to

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>exercise again and don't feel to shabby but it will
>take awhile to get

back

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>into things.
>

Gotcha. Here's hoping you can heal up soon.

Out of curiosity, coming off the same injury, did it hit
you out of the blue, or was it preceded by bad splints?
Are you switching shoes or doing anything differently?

Scott

Awesome!

Joe said:

I did my first run in 5 weeks today. i felt pretty good.
my shin twinged a little after the run but i think it is
fine. we'll see how it feels tomorrow.