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  1. Original post
    Joao De Souza
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    #1

    Notice: I'm sending this to [email hidden] *AND* copying it to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent -
    This is to let the folks at hostelshoppe.com respond in a public forum. I've set up my servers to
    refuse any email coming from Hostelshoppe, so any response will have to be done at
    alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent. And if hostelshoppe tries to respond using any other means, they are
    hereby warned that their response will be made public to the above-mentioned discussion group, and
    to any other groups I decide to share their response with.

    I own a domain name; let's call it "dontspammehere.com" for sake of argument. Any email sent to any
    address that ends in "@dontspammehere.com" goes to one single mailbox that I use to filter out spam.
    So whenever I sign up for *anything* online, like anything from hostelshoppe.com for example, I give
    my email address as "[email hidden]" so I will know where the spam is coming from.

    I recently tried to order something from hostelshoppe, and although my order was never finalized,
    ever since I gave them the address "[email hidden]" for the order, I've been
    getting bombarded with spam sent to that address. About 15 per day. That means that either they are
    doing the spamming, or they sell their client database to spammers. Therefore I would like to invite
    them to discuss the situation in this public forum. See below some of the more recent examples:

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Received: from CX1223562a (68.3.67.6) by mta4.wss.scd.yahoo.com (7.0.015.1) id 3ECD1616000890A1 for
    [email hidden]; Fri, 23 May 2003 18:56:00 -0700 thread-index:
    AcMhl6DG60ymmvKIQ0q3tmydbMIjRQ== Thread-Topic: New Product From: <[email hidden]> To:
    <[email hidden]> Subject: New Product Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 18:56:01 -0700
    Message-ID: <091a01c32197$a0c68950$06430344@CX1223562a> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;
    charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000
    Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal Priority: normal X-MimeOLE: Produced
    By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165

    A LolliPop that Suppresses Appetite and Gives You Energy !!!

    SLIM POPS

    We are looking for Customers and Distributors

    (clipped in order to to advertize spammer product)

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 02:44:52 UT Subject: HGH Does It Work? Free Literature To Learn More X-Id:
    H4F%N9&]M259YSVML1]!$2+AD[_X#5[<V+'[<6/5!8&FTV#QLC_69#P`` X-List-Unsubscribe:
    <[email hidden]> From: "Phase 4 Pharmaceutical"
    <[email hidden]> Reply-To: "Cavalry Mail"
    <[email hidden]> To: <[email hidden]>

    This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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    This message contains an HTML formatted message but your email client does not support the display
    of HTML. Please view this message in a different mail client or forward this email to a web-based
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  2. One Of The Six
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    #2

    I doubt they directly spam those kinds of adds. It is of course possible that they sell their lists.
    Another very real possibility is that spammers completely unafilliated with them are using their
    name and or servers. Spammers are evil. (So is our government in regards to considering corporations
    and marketers in general as falling under the right to free speech.)

    "Joao de Souza" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Notice: I'm sending this to [email hidden] *AND* copying it to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent -
    This is to let the folks at hostelshoppe.com respond in a public forum. I've set up my servers to
    refuse any email coming from Hostelshoppe, so any response will have to be done at
    alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent. And if hostelshoppe tries to respond using any other means, they are
    hereby warned that their response will be made public to the above-mentioned discussion group, and
    to any other groups I decide to share their response with.

    I own a domain name; let's call it "dontspammehere.com" for sake of argument. Any email sent to
    any address that ends in "@dontspammehere.com" goes to one single mailbox that I use to filter out
    spam. So whenever I sign up for *anything* online, like anything from hostelshoppe.com for
    example, I give my email address as "[email hidden]" so I will know where the
    spam is coming from.

    I recently tried to order something from hostelshoppe, and although my order was never finalized,
    ever since I gave them the address "[email hidden]" for the order, I've been
    getting bombarded with spam sent to that address. About 15 per day. That means that either they
    are doing the spamming, or they sell their client database to spammers. Therefore I would like to
    invite them to discuss the situation in this public forum. See below some of the more recent
    examples:

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------


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    Quoted message said:

    Received: from CX1223562a (68.3.67.6) by mta4.wss.scd.yahoo.com


    (7..015.1)

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    id 3ECD1616000890A1 for [email hidden]; Fri, 23 May 2003 18:56:00 -0700
    thread-index: AcMhl6DG60ymmvKIQ0q3tmydbMIjRQ== Thread-Topic: New Product From:
    <[email hidden]> To: <[email hidden]> Subject: New Product Date: Fri, 23
    May 2003 18:56:01 -0700 Message-ID: <091a01c32197$a0c68950$06430344@CX1223562a>
    MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000 Content-Class:
    urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal Priority: normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By
    Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165

    A LolliPop that Suppresses Appetite and Gives You Energy !!!

    SLIM POPS

    We are looking for Customers and Distributors

    (clipped in order to to advertize spammer product)

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------


    -------

    Quoted message said:


    Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 02:44:52 UT Subject: HGH Does It Work? Free Literature To Learn More X-Id:
    H4F%N9&]M259YSVML1]!$2+AD[_X#5[<V+'[<6/5!8&FTV#QLC_69#P`` X-List-Unsubscribe:
    <[email hidden]> From: "Phase 4 Pharmaceutical"
    <[email hidden]> Reply-To: "Cavalry Mail"
    <[email hidden]> To: <[email hidden]>

    This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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    a

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  3. Mlb
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    #3

    Geez dude, there are endless methods of getting on lists. You're blowing smoke rings on a
    windy day 🙂

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  4. M..Leuck
    Archived post
    #4

    "Joao de Souza" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Notice: I'm sending this to [email hidden] *AND* copying it to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent -
    This is to let the folks at hostelshoppe.com respond in a public forum. I've set up my servers to
    refuse any email coming from Hostelshoppe, so any response will have to be done at
    alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent. And if hostelshoppe tries to respond using any other means, they are
    hereby warned that their response will be made public to the above-mentioned discussion group, and
    to any other groups I decide to share their response with.

    I own a domain name; let's call it "dontspammehere.com" for sake of argument. Any email sent to
    any address that ends in "@dontspammehere.com" goes to one single mailbox that I use to filter out
    spam. So whenever I sign up for *anything* online, like anything from hostelshoppe.com for
    example, I give my email address as "[email hidden]" so I will know where the
    spam is coming from.

    I recently tried to order something from hostelshoppe, and although my order was never finalized,
    ever since I gave them the address "[email hidden]" for the order, I've been
    getting bombarded with spam sent to that address. About 15 per day. That means that either they
    are doing the spamming, or they sell their client database to spammers. Therefore I would like to
    invite them to discuss the situation in this public forum. See below some of the more recent
    examples:

    Its also possible a 3rd party email harvester nabbed your email addy

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  5. Cletus D . Lee
    Archived post
    #5

    In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Geez dude, there are endless methods of getting on lists. You're blowing smoke rings on a
    windy day 🙂


    You miss the point. Joao has a domain and can set up any email address to that domain. I do the
    same. So if a mail is generated to hostelshoppe@<Joao'sMail Server> He knows the source. If I order
    from PerformanceBike I give an email of Performancebike@<Mydomain.com> If I get any spam, I know the
    source. Joao can and did trace the source of his spam. Non existant email boxes don't get on lists
    except from the only place they are revealed.
    --
    Cletus D. Lee Bacchetta Giro Lightning Voyager clee.orgclee.org
    - Bellaire, TX USA -

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  6. Mikael Seierup
    Archived post
    #6

    While we're on the subject. Paypal apparently shares your adress with junkmailers. They are the only
    american company I gave my adress and now I'm getting all those fun offers of subscriptions etc.

    Sometimes you americans can be really annoying. ;o)

    M.

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  7. Andrew Douglas
    Archived post
    #7

    In article <[email hidden]>, Mikael Seierup

    Quoted message said:

    Sometimes you americans can be really annoying. ;o)

    Yeah. We invented the Internet. What a bummer that turned out to be, eh? ;-)

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  8. Mikael Seierup
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    #8

    "Andrew Douglas" skrev...

    Quoted message said:

    Yeah. We invented the Internet. What a bummer that turned out to be, eh? ;-)

    Oh yeah, thats right. Three cheers for Al Gore. ;-)

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  9. Joao De Souza
    Archived post
    #9
    I said:


    (clip-O-rama)

    I just wanted to apologized to Hostelshope for my previous post. I was very tired last night when I
    checked my email logs, and completely forgot that recently I did use the spamtrap address on their
    "for sale" board, thus making it publicly available. So there is a good chance that a spammer's web
    crawling program may have fished it from there.

    And let this be a lesson folks. Don't post when you're tired and grumpy at the end of a
    stressful day!

    Cheers.

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  10. Skip
    Archived post
    #10

    "Mikael Seierup" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]... <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    Sometimes you americans can be really annoying. ;o)

    Sometimes you danes can be really annoying. ;-)

    skip

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  11. Mikael Seierup
    Archived post
    #11

    "Skip" skrev...

    Quoted message said:


    "Mikael Seierup" wrote

    Quoted message said:

    Sometimes you americans can be really annoying. ;o)

    Sometimes you danes can be really annoying. ;-)

    And then theres Tom Sherman whos american with danish ancestors. RUN AWAY!!! No I just meant
    regarding junkmail. :-)

    M.

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  12. Skip
    Archived post
    #12

    "Mikael Seierup" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Andrew Douglas" skrev...

    Quoted message said:

    Yeah. We invented the Internet. What a bummer that turned out to be, eh? ;-)

    Oh yeah, thats right. Three cheers for Al Gore. ;-)


    Al lives nearby and I can tell you that word spreading fast around here that he has gotten three
    cheers from someone in Denmark. He is very encouraged. Is there anything suitable he could run for
    over over there? ;-)

    skip

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  13. Doug Huffman
    Archived post
    #13

    If 'the Internet' is the World Wide Web then Tim Berners-Lee, then at CERN (hardly 'America'😉,
    invented it in 1991. E-mail and Usenet predate the WWW a bit but are far less heavily used.

    Some 'Americans' can be quite annoying, like Algore, but then so too can some EUsless or what
    ever Goebbels claims - or is it Syrup, I never can remember which is nom-de-net and which is the
    family name.

    "Mikael Seierup" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Andrew Douglas" skrev...

    Quoted message said:

    Yeah. We invented the Internet. What a bummer that turned out to be, eh? ;-)

    Oh yeah, thats right. Three cheers for Al Gore. ;-)

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  14. Doug Huffman
    Archived post
    #14

    Too late. Unless you can run a 'cancel-bot' then the flames - including mine - are on their way.

    "Mikael Seierup" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Skip" skrev...

    Quoted message said:


    "Mikael Seierup" wrote

    Quoted message said:

    Sometimes you americans can be really annoying. ;o)

    Sometimes you danes can be really annoying. ;-)

    And then theres Tom Sherman whos american with danish ancestors. RUN


    AWAY!!!

    Quoted message said:

    No I just meant regarding junkmail. :-)

    M.

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  15. Greg Dunn
    Archived post
    #15

    Yeah, and *you people* need to find something to do besides baking sweet rolls. Nya nya nya nya nya!

    --
    Greg Dunn

    "Mikael Seierup" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    While we're on the subject. Paypal apparently shares your adress with junkmailers. They are the
    only american company I gave my adress and now I'm getting all those fun offers of
    subscriptions etc.

    Sometimes you americans can be really annoying. ;o)

    M.

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  16. Mikael Seierup
    Archived post
    #16

    "Greg Dunn" skrev...

    Quoted message said:

    Yeah, and *you people* need to find something to do besides baking sweet rolls. Nya nya nya
    nya nya!

    Hey, we sent a sub to a desertwar. At least we get points for creativity. ;-)

    M.

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  17. Mikael Seierup
    Archived post
    #17

    "Greg Dunn" skrev...

    Quoted message said:

    Yeah, and *you people* need to find something to do besides baking sweet rolls. Nya nya nya
    nya nya!

    And we call it wienerbrød btw. Bread from Wienna if you want a litteral translation. So there. Only
    english and american types call em danish. Nya nya, yerself. ;-)

    M.

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  18. Mikael Seierup
    Archived post
    #18

    "Mikael Seierup" skrev

    Quoted message said:

    And we call it wienerbrød btw. Bread from Wienna if you want a litteral translation.

    Hmmm... Vienna even. Called Wien in danish.

    M.

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  19. Wile E.Coyote
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    #19

    Interesting thread on Dane Bashing....though I can not see it going beyond the only 2 things
    Americans know about Denmark Re: sticky buns and really big dogs. Memorial Day is almost upon
    us, the day all Americans thank the lord we are not the French, Danes, Dutch, Polish, Italians,
    Greek etc.
    **************
    "Mikael Seierup" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Greg Dunn" skrev...

    Quoted message said:

    Yeah, and *you people* need to find something to do besides baking sweet rolls. Nya nya nya
    nya nya!

    And we call it wienerbrød btw. Bread from Wienna if you want a litteral


    translation.

    Quoted message said:

    So there. Only english and american types call em danish. Nya nya, yerself. ;-)

    M.

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  20. Wile E.Coyote
    Archived post
    #20

    Who is Al Gore?
    H.Ross Perot!
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    "Skip" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Mikael Seierup" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Andrew Douglas" skrev...

    Quoted message said:

    Yeah. We invented the Internet. What a bummer that turned out to be, eh? ;-)

    Oh yeah, thats right. Three cheers for Al Gore. ;-)


    Al lives nearby and I can tell you that word spreading fast around here


    that

    Quoted message said:

    he has gotten three cheers from someone in Denmark. He is very encouraged. Is there anything
    suitable he could run for over over there? ;-)

    skip

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