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  1. Candlepower is a measure of light emitted; watts is a measure of
    power output. How come inexpensive clip-on headlights are rated by
    candlepower but expensive lights with separate battery units are rated
    by wattage? Can you convert from one to another?

    Here's specifically what I'm getting at: I use a Sigma Sport Mirage X
    with 5 and 20 watt lights for winter commuting on dark country roads,
    but it's too heavy and bulky to keep on the bike all the time. I want
    to keep a smaller, cheaper light in my commuting bag to throw on the
    bike if I work late in fall or spring when I don't have the Mirage
    lights, and to put on other bikes I may take to work occasionally.
    Obviously it won't have nearly the power of the Mirage lights, but
    should be enough to be seen and kind of see the road. I'm trying to
    get a sense for how bright one of these things will be compared to the
    my 5 and 20 watt lights.

    So, what's the brightest self-contained light? The Cateye EL-500
    claims 1000 candlepower; how does that compare to a wattage rating?

    Thanks,
    Michael

  2. Michael Press <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:

    Candlepower is a measure of light emitted; watts is a measure of
    power output. How come inexpensive clip-on headlights are rated by
    candlepower but expensive lights with separate battery units are rated
    by wattage? Can you convert from one to another?

    No. Different bulbs, reflectors, etc. have different efficiencies.

  3. Michael Press said:

    Candlepower is a measure of light emitted; watts is a measure of
    power output. How come inexpensive clip-on headlights are rated by
    candlepower but expensive lights with separate battery units are rated
    by wattage? Can you convert from one to another?

    Here's specifically what I'm getting at: I use a Sigma Sport Mirage X
    with 5 and 20 watt lights for winter commuting on dark country roads,
    but it's too heavy and bulky to keep on the bike all the time. I want
    to keep a smaller, cheaper light in my commuting bag to throw on the
    bike if I work late in fall or spring when I don't have the Mirage
    lights, and to put on other bikes I may take to work occasionally.
    Obviously it won't have nearly the power of the Mirage lights, but
    should be enough to be seen and kind of see the road. I'm trying to
    get a sense for how bright one of these things will be compared to the
    my 5 and 20 watt lights.

    So, what's the brightest self-contained light? The Cateye EL-500
    claims 1000 candlepower; how does that compare to a wattage rating?

    Thanks,
    Michael

    You are asking for the answer to a very complex question in comparing candlepower to wattage rating.
    First, to correct one of your assmptions, wattage is the input power supplied.
    The useful output power can be measured in candlepower or lumens.
    Even when comparing two or more lights with the same rated candlepower/lumens it is very difficult because of things like how the light is distributed in "beam pattern" and how it is distributed in the spectrum... light frequency (or frequencies). Since our eyes have different sensitivities to different frequencies... and very little to infra-red and/or ultra-violet, you would prefer that the input power is utilized in creating a beam pattern and light frequency suitable to you and your riding.
    Now, to a more practical answer... I hope. Take a look at the ViewPoint Gen 3 LED Headlight offered by Performance Bicycle. URL:

    <http://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?SKU=18633&subcategory_ID=4320>

    It uses 4 AA batteries. You can use the rechargeable NiMH batteries in it and have a "fall-back" of Alkaline cells. It is pretty bight and relatively compact.

  4. Watt is a measure of power, not light output. HID systems consume far less power than incandescent of similar output.

  5. Quoted message said:

    Candlepower is a measure of light emitted; watts is a measure
    of power output.

    Candlepower is a measure of light intensity, watts is a measure of power
    input.

    Quoted message said:

    How come inexpensive clip-on headlights are rated by candlepower
    but expensive lights with separate battery units are rated
    by wattage?

    In a word: marketing. A low-power headlight that is well focussed can
    still produce a high candlepower reading at the illuminated spot, and
    that is what sells the headlight.

    Quoted message said:

    Can you convert from one to another?

    In a word: no. A spread-out beam from a 20-watt halogen headlight may
    have a lower candlepower rating than a tightly-focussed beam from a
    1-watt LED, even though the 20-watt halogen may be effectively
    illuminating the entire width of the road, whereas the spot from the
    1-watt LED is only a few feet in diameter.

    Quoted message said:

    I want to keep a smaller, cheaper light in my commuting bag to
    throw on the bike if I work late in fall or spring when I don't
    have the Mirage lights, and to put on other bikes I may take
    to work occasionally.

    I like the Sigma Sport Ellipsoid for that purpose, but I use two of
    them, as one just does not provide enough light. A big advantage the SSE
    has over most other headlights is that the batteries don't have to be
    removed for charging, as the charger simply needs to be plugged into the
    housing, which has a jack for the purpose.

    Quoted message said:

    So, what's the brightest self-contained light?

    A really adequate single-unit headlight is the Holy Grail of bicycle
    lighting, and I don't think anyone has found it yet. I know I haven't.

  6. The links below are a good start.

    Michael Press said:

    Candlepower is a measure of light emitted; watts is a measure of
    power output. How come inexpensive clip-on headlights are rated by
    candlepower but expensive lights with separate battery units are rated
    by wattage? Can you convert from one to another?

    Here's specifically what I'm getting at: I use a Sigma Sport Mirage X
    with 5 and 20 watt lights for winter commuting on dark country roads,
    but it's too heavy and bulky to keep on the bike all the time. I want
    to keep a smaller, cheaper light in my commuting bag to throw on the
    bike if I work late in fall or spring when I don't have the Mirage
    lights, and to put on other bikes I may take to work occasionally.
    Obviously it won't have nearly the power of the Mirage lights, but
    should be enough to be seen and kind of see the road. I'm trying to
    get a sense for how bright one of these things will be compared to the
    my 5 and 20 watt lights.

    So, what's the brightest self-contained light? The Cateye EL-500
    claims 1000 candlepower; how does that compare to a wattage rating?

    Thanks,
    Michael

    http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/vision/photom.html

    Power Per Unit Solid Angle

    The power (flux) per unit solid angle (sometimes called pointance) is
    the nearest precise terminology to the common term intensity. It
    expresses the directionality of the radiated energy and is appropriate
    for the description of point sources. In the case of radiant power, it
    is expressed in watts per steradian. For visible light it is expressed
    in lumens per steradian = candela.

    http://www.fact-index.com/p/ph/photometry__optics_.html

    Watts (radiant flux) vs. Lumens (luminous flux)

    A comparison of the watt and the lumen illustrates the distinction
    between radiometric and photometric units.

    The watt is a unit of energy. We are accustomed to thinking of light
    bulbs in terms of their wattage. But wattage as marked on the package,
    is not a measure of the amount of light it puts out, but a measure of
    the amount of energy it consumes: it tells you how much the bulb will
    add to your electric bill, not how effective it will be in lighting your
    home. Because incandescent bulbs sold for "general service" all have
    fairly similar characteristics, wattage is a guide to light output, but
    only a rough one.

    Watts can also be a measure of output. In a radiometric sense, an
    incandescent light bulb is about 80% efficient; 20% of the energy is
    lost (e.g. by conduction through the lamp base) The remainder is emitted
    as radiation. Thus, a 60-watt light bulb emits a total radiant flux of
    about 45 watts.

    Incandescent bulbs are, in fact, sometimes used as heat sources, (as in
    a chick incubator), but usually they are used for the purpose of
    providing light. As such, they are very inefficient, because most of the
    radiant energy they emit is invisible infrared. There are compact
    fluorescent bulbs that say on their package that they "provide the light
    of a 60-watt bulb" while consuming only 15 watts.

    The lumen is the photometric unit that corresponds to the watt. Although
    most consumers still think of light in terms of wattage, in the U. S. it
    has been a trade requirement for several decades that light bulb
    packaging give the output in lumens. The package of a 60-watt
    incandescent bulb indicates that it provides about 900 lumens, as does
    the package of the 15-watt compact fluorescent.

    The lumen is defined as one candela per steradian; while the candela, a
    base SI unit, is defined as the luminous intensity of a source of
    monochromatic radiation, of frequency 540 terahertz, and a radiant
    intensity of 1/683 watts per steradian. (540 THz corresponds to about
    555 nanometers, the wavelength, in the green, to which the human eye is
    most sensitive. The number 1/683 was chosen to make the candela about
    equal to the standard candle, the unit which it superseded).

    Combining these definitions, we see that 1/683 watt of 555-nanometer
    green light provides one lumen.

    The relation between watts and lumens is not just a simple scaling
    factor. We know this already, because the 60-watt incandescent bulb and
    the 15-watt compact fluorescent both provide 900 lumens.

    The definition tells us that 1 watt of pure green 555-nm light is
    "worth" 683 lumens. It does not say anything about other wavelengths.
    Because lumens are photometric units, their relationship to watts
    depends on the wavelength according to how visible the wavelength is.
    Infrared and ultraviolet radiation, for example, are invisible and do
    not count. One watt of infrared radiation (which is where most of the
    radiation from an incandescent bulb falls) is worth zero lumens. Within
    the visible spectrum, wavelengths are light are weighted according to a
    function called the "photopic spectral luminous efficiency." According
    to this function, 700 nm red light is only about 4% as efficient as 555
    nm green light. Thus, one watt of 700 nm red light is "worth" only 27
    lumens.
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  7. LioNiNoiL_a t_Y a h o o_d 0 t_c 0 m wrote in message ...

    Quoted message said:


    A really adequate single-unit headlight is the Holy Grail of bicycle
    lighting, and I don't think anyone has found it yet. I know I haven't.


    Ever Ready Nightrider provides general forward illumination with a 3" dia.
    lens plus side spots and rectangular beam to light the road. Achieved with
    two D cells and 3W halogen filled incandescent bulb.

    Trevor

  8. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    A really adequate single-unit headlight is the Holy Grail of
    bicycle lighting, and I don't think anyone has found it yet.
    I know I haven't.

    Ever Ready Nightrider provides general forward illumination
    with a 3" dia. lens plus side spots and rectangular beam to
    light the road. Achieved with two D cells and 3W halogen
    filled incandescent bulb.

    A single 3W halogen certainly provides general forward illumination, but
    a great many bikers, myself included, do not consider it adequate.

  9. LioNiNoiL_a t_Y a h o o_d 0 t_c 0 m wrote in message ...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    A really adequate single-unit headlight is the Holy Grail of
    bicycle lighting, and I don't think anyone has found it yet.
    I know I haven't.

    Ever Ready Nightrider provides general forward illumination
    with a 3" dia. lens plus side spots and rectangular beam to
    light the road. Achieved with two D cells and 3W halogen
    filled incandescent bulb.

    A single 3W halogen certainly provides general forward illumination, but
    a great many bikers, myself included, do not consider it adequate.


    Notice this unit also has a beam which if mounted on handlebars provides an
    illuminated patch on the road sufficient to ride at 18mph.

    Trevor

  10. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > A really adequate single-unit headlight is the Holy Grail of
    > bicycle lighting, and I don't think anyone has found it yet.
    > I know I haven't.

    Ever Ready Nightrider provides general forward illumination
    with a 3" dia. lens plus side spots and rectangular beam to
    light the road. Achieved with two D cells and 3W halogen
    filled incandescent bulb.

    A single 3W halogen certainly provides general forward
    illumination, but a great many bikers, myself included,
    do not consider it adequate.

    Notice this unit also has a beam which if mounted on handlebars
    provides an illuminated patch on the road sufficient to ride
    at 18mph.

    I can show you roads on which moonlight alone is sufficient to allow
    18mph; that doesn't mean moonlight is "sufficient".

  11. LioNiNoiL_a t_Y a h o o_d 0 t_c 0 m wrote in message ...

    Quoted message said:

    I can show you roads on which moonlight alone is sufficient to allow
    18mph; that doesn't mean moonlight is "sufficient".

    I have driven at 40mph on unknown roads illuminated solely by the moon, the
    eye will adapt. If I can see ahead that the road surface is even and
    unlittered there is sufficient light for me to see to ride or drive. If
    every road user used marker lights and everyone complied with not to ride or
    drive faster than the speed at which you can stop in the distance you can
    see to be clear, all roads would be safe.

    How fast do you want to ride of a night on unlit roads? Is it lit roads you
    have the problem with? Either way a detailed eye examination, I think is
    called for.

    Trevor

  12. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > A single 3W halogen certainly provides general forward
    > illumination, but a great many bikers, myself included,
    > do not consider it adequate.

    Notice this unit also has a beam which if mounted on handlebars
    provides an illuminated patch on the road sufficient to ride
    at 18mph.

    I can show you roads on which moonlight alone is sufficient
    to allow 18mph; that doesn't mean moonlight is "sufficient".

    If every road user used marker lights and everyone complied with
    not to ride or drive faster than the speed at which you can stop
    in the distance you can see to be clear, all roads would be safe.

    If wishes were horses, then beggars would ride.

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