Head in the sand

Bill C said:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1989654
MLB not likely to innvesigate allegations. What a surprise. Repeat
after me: "There is no problem, there is no problem..."
The Maris family is demanding an investigation and threatening to
bring suit against both Bonds and Mcgwire since they feel they have
been substantially damaged by doping. They have a solid economic case
for asking the questions.

Dumbass -

Canseco has the same profile problem as DeCanio. He doesn't have
credibility.

Do I believe baseball has a performance enhancing drug problem? Yes,
every professional sport does. Do I believe everything Jose Canseco
says? No. A lot of what he says probably is true, but his behavior has
been so inconsistent that it's gotta be taken w/ a grain of salt.

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

"Bill C" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1989654
MLB not likely to innvesigate allegations. What a surprise. Repeat
after me: "There is no problem, there is no problem..."
The Maris family is demanding an investigation and threatening to
bring suit against both Bonds and Mcgwire since they feel they have
been substantially damaged by doping. They have a solid economic case
for asking the questions.
Bill C

If they don't file suit against Sosa as well, their damages/economic case
will be a lot smaller.

Carl Sundquist said:

"Bill C" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1989654
MLB not likely to innvesigate allegations. What a surprise. Repeat
after me: "There is no problem, there is no problem..."
The Maris family is demanding an investigation and threatening to
bring suit against both Bonds and Mcgwire since they feel they have
been substantially damaged by doping. They have a solid economic

case

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for asking the questions.
Bill C

If they don't file suit against Sosa as well, their damages/economic

case

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will be a lot smaller.

They are planning to file against all three that have bettered the
single season home run record.
Hope that at least the civil courts make this interesting.
Bill C

Bill C said:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1989654
MLB not likely to innvesigate allegations. What a surprise. Repeat
after me: "There is no problem, there is no problem..."
The Maris family is demanding an investigation and threatening to
bring suit against both Bonds and Mcgwire since they feel they have
been substantially damaged by doping. They have a solid economic case
for asking the questions.
Bill C

I agree. I think rbr should send a correspondent to any trial.

Steve

Bill C said:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1989654
MLB not likely to innvesigate allegations. What a surprise. Repeat
after me: "There is no problem, there is no problem..."
The Maris family is demanding an investigation and threatening to
bring suit against both Bonds and Mcgwire since they feel they have
been substantially damaged by doping. They have a solid economic case
for asking the questions.
Bill C

What is your reference for the lawsuit threat? I only see where Maris'
son says the family will abide by the decision of major league baseball
and that McGuire is a "first-class individual".

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1988589

Steve

"Bill C" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Looks like I got fooled. What I had found was an update of this piece:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/543191/posts
It was rewritten as a serious current piece with quotes from the
family. Looks like it been pulled. I just found this this morning.
More new news on this mess though:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,147456,00.html
Barry Bonds' Alleged Mistress Speaks Out
Now we've got some sex and violence to go with the drugs. This could
become a prime time special. Geraldo sure got to the bottom of that
Capone thing. He is just such a paragon of journalistic values.
As long as he's employed by Fox it is just impossible to take them
completely seriously, c'mon Geraldo as journalist and expert? CNN has
major problems but even they didn't run out and hire Springer who is
probably more credible than Geraldo.

We can lump Geraldo in with Jose and DeCanio, credibility-wise.

"BELL: The only reason I did not go forward was because the attorneys that I
spoke to wanted upwards of $100,000 to prosecute this case for me."

Lots of focus on money and not a lot of knowledge in vocabulary.

Carl Sundquist said:

"Bill C" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

Looks like I got fooled. What I had found was an update of this piece:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/543191/posts
It was rewritten as a serious current piece with quotes from the
family. Looks like it been pulled. I just found this this morning.
More new news on this mess though:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,147456,00.html
Barry Bonds' Alleged Mistress Speaks Out
Now we've got some sex and violence to go with the drugs. This could
become a prime time special. Geraldo sure got to the bottom of that
Capone thing. He is just such a paragon of journalistic values.
As long as he's employed by Fox it is just impossible to take them
completely seriously, c'mon Geraldo as journalist and expert? CNN has
major problems but even they didn't run out and hire Springer who is
probably more credible than Geraldo.

We can lump Geraldo in with Jose and DeCanio, credibility-wise.

"BELL: The only reason I did not go forward was because the attorneys that I
spoke to wanted upwards of $100,000 to prosecute this case for me."

Lots of focus on money and not a lot of knowledge in vocabulary.

All civil lawsuits are focused on money. LIFE is focused on money. I
don't necessarily agree that a focus on money detracts from one's
credibility.

Take care,

Magilla

Bill C said:

Steven Bornfeld said:

Bill C said:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1989654
MLB not likely to innvesigate allegations. What a surprise. Repeat
after me: "There is no problem, there is no problem..."
The Maris family is demanding an investigation and threatening to
bring suit against both Bonds and Mcgwire since they feel they have
been substantially damaged by doping. They have a solid economic

case

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

for asking the questions.
Bill C

What is your reference for the lawsuit threat? I only see where

Maris'

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son says the family will abide by the decision of major league

baseball

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and that McGuire is a "first-class individual".

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1988589

Steve

Looks like I got fooled. What I had found was an update of this piece:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/543191/posts
It was rewritten as a serious current piece with quotes from the
family. Looks like it been pulled. I just found this this morning.
More new news on this mess though:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,147456,00.html
Barry Bonds' Alleged Mistress Speaks Out
Now we've got some sex and violence to go with the drugs. This could
become a prime time special. Geraldo sure got to the bottom of that
Capone thing. He is just such a paragon of journalistic values.
As long as he's employed by Fox it is just impossible to take them
completely seriously, c'mon Geraldo as journalist and expert? CNN has
major problems but even they didn't run out and hire Springer who is
probably more credible than Geraldo.
Bill C
Bill C

Well, thanks Bill. I must say that I checked in here before reading
the sports section of the NY Times, which is sitting on my dining room
table.
I agree with what you say about Geraldo, who grew up in the same
neighborhood as I did (though I think back then he was better known as
Jerry Rivers). Of course, Springer was mayor of Cincinnatti, where my
wife grew up.
And you gotta love that name, Aphrodite Jones!

Steve

"MagillaGorilla" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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We can lump Geraldo in with Jose and DeCanio, credibility-wise.

"BELL: The only reason I did not go forward was because the attorneys

that I

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spoke to wanted upwards of $100,000 to prosecute this case for me."

Lots of focus on money and not a lot of knowledge in vocabulary.

All civil lawsuits are focused on money. LIFE is focused on money. I
don't necessarily agree that a focus on money detracts from one's
credibility.

Take care,

Magilla

Reread.

1) I said Geraldo's credibility, not Bell's.

2) The story started as a testimonial about Bonds saying he used steriods,
then changed direction to how he dumped her and she wants money in addition
to hawking a tell-all book.

3) Bell needs to understand that you do not prosecute a civil suit, you
prosecute someone arrested for breaking a law. You do not pay prosecutors a
fee; they are paid by the government.

4) Attorney's fees in civil lawsuits generally come as a percentage of the
amount the judge/jury awards, unless the attorney feels the case is
virtually without merit and the plaintiff is insistant on pursuing the case.
In that situation, attorneys usually ask for a set fee up front. In this
case, it may have been a $100k set fee. Sometimes attorneys will charge an
outrageous fee just to shut you up and get you out the door.

Kurgan Gringioni said:

Dumbass -

Canseco has the same profile problem as DeCanio. He doesn't have
credibility.

Do I believe baseball has a performance enhancing drug problem? Yes,
every professional sport does. Do I believe everything Jose Canseco
says? No. A lot of what he says probably is true, but his behavior

has

Quoted message said:

been so inconsistent that it's gotta be taken w/ a grain of salt.

dumbass,

you can't compare canseco and decanio. canseco may have done many
questionable things in the past but he's not totally irrational. for
example he doesn't claim an extensive conspiracy exists purely keep him
down or think he's the catcher in the rye (he was mostly a DH).

the main reason he doesn't have credibility is because he's not liked
by baseball (media, fans, management).

he was at the top level of the sport for many years and teamates with
many of the top hitters he's accusing.

decanio has some first hand stories, which i believe, but he also, like
lafferty makes claims about people he doesn't have contact with.

amit said:

Kurgan Gringioni said:

Dumbass -

Canseco has the same profile problem as DeCanio. He doesn't have
credibility.

Do I believe baseball has a performance enhancing drug problem?

Yes,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

every professional sport does. Do I believe everything Jose Canseco
says? No. A lot of what he says probably is true, but his behavior

has

Quoted message said:

been so inconsistent that it's gotta be taken w/ a grain of salt.

dumbass,

you can't compare canseco and decanio. canseco may have done many
questionable things in the past but he's not totally irrational. for
example he doesn't claim an extensive conspiracy exists purely keep

him

Quoted message said:

down or think he's the catcher in the rye (he was mostly a DH).

the main reason he doesn't have credibility is because he's not liked
by baseball (media, fans, management).

he was at the top level of the sport for many years and teamates with
many of the top hitters he's accusing.

decanio has some first hand stories, which i believe, but he also,

like

Quoted message said:

lafferty makes claims about people he doesn't have contact with.

Dumbass -

Canseco has been in trouble for ramming his car into his wife's car and
having a loaded gun at a hospital. When he was on probation, he tested
positive for 'roids.

Add to that: Canseco is trying to make $$$$ selling his book.

Do I believe baseball is dirty? Yes. Do I believe everything Jose
Canseco says? No.

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

"amit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

you can't compare canseco and decanio. canseco may have done many
questionable things in the past but he's not totally irrational. for
example he doesn't claim an extensive conspiracy exists purely keep him
down or think he's the catcher in the rye (he was mostly a DH).

Maybe you missed Canseco blaming President Bush for drug use in major
league baseball.

But compared to Decanio that's pretty tame.

Carl Sundquist said:

"MagillaGorilla" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

<snip>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

All civil lawsuits are focused on money. LIFE is focused on money. I
don't necessarily agree that a focus on money detracts from one's
credibility.

Take care,

Magilla

Reread.

1) I said Geraldo's credibility, not Bell's.

2) The story started as a testimonial about Bonds saying he used steriods,
then changed direction to how he dumped her and she wants money in addition
to hawking a tell-all book.

3) Bell needs to understand that you do not prosecute a civil suit, you
prosecute someone arrested for breaking a law. You do not pay prosecutors a
fee; they are paid by the government.

4) Attorney's fees in civil lawsuits generally come as a percentage of the
amount the judge/jury awards, unless the attorney feels the case is
virtually without merit and the plaintiff is insistant on pursuing the case.
In that situation, attorneys usually ask for a set fee up front. In this
case, it may have been a $100k set fee. Sometimes attorneys will charge an
outrageous fee just to shut you up and get you out the door.

Sunkist Orange,

1) I agree; Geraldo is also the same person who said a bomb destroyed
TWA 800 even though there's no evidence to support that.

2) Yeah, but If I spent 10 years with someone worth $50 million and
they told me they would take care of me, I would expect something in return.

3) Her use of the word "prosecute" was just a simple mistake. She was
talking about hiring a civil attorney, as no prosecutor would tell her
she needs to pay $100,000. Plus, there was no crime committed (other
than adultery).

4) Depends on what attorney you ask.

Magilla

crit PRO said:

MagillaGorilla said:

Carl Sundquist said:

"MagillaGorilla" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

<snip>

Quoted message said:

>All civil lawsuits are focused on money. LIFE is focused on money.

I

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Quoted message said:

>don't necessarily agree that a focus on money detracts from one's
>credibility.
>
>Take care,
>
>Magilla

Reread.

1) I said Geraldo's credibility, not Bell's.

2) The story started as a testimonial about Bonds saying he used

steriods,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

then changed direction to how he dumped her and she wants money in

addition

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to hawking a tell-all book.

3) Bell needs to understand that you do not prosecute a civil suit,

you

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

prosecute someone arrested for breaking a law. You do not pay

prosecutors a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

fee; they are paid by the government.

4) Attorney's fees in civil lawsuits generally come as a percentage

of the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

amount the judge/jury awards, unless the attorney feels the case is
virtually without merit and the plaintiff is insistant on pursuing

the case.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

In that situation, attorneys usually ask for a set fee up front. In

this

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

case, it may have been a $100k set fee. Sometimes attorneys will

charge an

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

outrageous fee just to shut you up and get you out the door.

Sunkist Orange,

1) I agree; Geraldo is also the same person who said a bomb destroyed

Quoted message said:

TWA 800 even though there's no evidence to support that.

2) Yeah, but If I spent 10 years with someone worth $50 million and
they told me they would take care of me, I would expect something in

return.

Quoted message said:

3) Her use of the word "prosecute" was just a simple mistake. She

was

Quoted message said:

talking about hiring a civil attorney, as no prosecutor would tell

her

Quoted message said:

she needs to pay $100,000. Plus, there was no crime committed (other

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than adultery).

4) Depends on what attorney you ask.

Magilla

Flight 800.......DO NOT get me started! One of the biggest coverups
ever!

Shot down by Weekend Warriors. [censored] excuse of faulty wiring, fuel
vapor, exploding gas tanks. They even retro fitted jets in order to
keep the lie alive.

[censored].

cp

[censored] excuse? How do you explain the fact that seconds before the
explosion the pilot told the first officer that the fuel heat probe in
the centerline tank was going crazy? (it was recorded on the CVR)

Magilla

In article <[email hidden]>,

amit said:

you can't compare canseco and decanio. canseco may have done many
questionable things in the past but he's not totally irrational. for
example he doesn't claim an extensive conspiracy exists purely keep him
down or think he's the catcher in the rye (he was mostly a DH).

Oh, so he was the DH in the rye. I hear that's easier on the knees than
being the catcher in the rye.

Quoted message said:

decanio has some first hand stories, which i believe, but he also, like
lafferty makes claims about people he doesn't have contact with.

Decanio seems to work on the principle of "Throw enough [censored], and some
of it will stick".

--
tanx,
Howard

Butter is love.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?