He only got a 4 months for this??

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cyclingnews.comnewsOpen ↗ Canadian EPO doctor denies supplying
<snip> Canadian doctor Maurice Duquette, who pleaded guilty on Monday to

prescribing

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EPO to an as-yet-unnamed Quebec female cyclist and her coach, has now

denied

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giving the rider drugs. <snip> The previous day, Duquette pleaded guilty to 14 charges of
administering

banned

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drugs to 11 patients between 1998 and 2001, including three instances

involving

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the rider. Go read it for yourself, and keep defending him. Bill C

I blame the riders more than the doctor.

They're the ones seeking to gain an advantage. The doctor really doesn't benefit, especially in a
socialized system like Canada has.

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From: "Kurgan Gringioni" [email hidden]

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I blame the riders more than the doctor.

They're the ones seeking to gain an advantage. The doctor really doesn't benefit, especially in a
socialized system like Canada has.

Wanna bet he collected some good old capitalist gains on this? Both groups are being unethical. An
unethical cyclist might kill himself, an unethical doctor could destroy a whole lot more. That's my
opinion. Sherlock Holmes in one of the stories comments, that "There is no more dangerous and evil
adversary than a doctor gone bad." He goes on to explain that they are educated, logical, and know
our scientific method and use it against us. Bill C

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cyclingnews.comnewsOpen ↗ Canadian EPO doctor denies supplying
<snip> Canadian doctor Maurice Duquette, who pleaded guilty on Monday to

prescribing

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EPO to an as-yet-unnamed Quebec female cyclist and her coach, has now

denied

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giving the rider drugs. <snip> The previous day, Duquette pleaded guilty to 14 charges of
administering

banned

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drugs to 11 patients between 1998 and 2001, including three instances

involving

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the rider. Go read it for yourself, and keep defending him. Bill C

The guilty plea is far more significant than the letter. And if the doctor now says he lied under
oath to the court in making his plea, he'll be in even deeper [censored].

TritonRider said:

cyclingnews.comnewsOpen ↗ Canadian EPO doctor denies supplying
<snip> Canadian doctor Maurice Duquette, who pleaded guilty on Monday to prescribing EPO to an
as-yet-unnamed Quebec female cyclist and her coach, has now denied giving the rider drugs. <snip>
The previous day, Duquette pleaded guilty to 14 charges of administering banned drugs to 11
patients between 1998 and 2001, including three instances involving the rider. Go read it for
yourself, and keep defending him. Bill C

I find it a bit odd that the CPS has control over whether the rider's name becomes public.
Ordinarily, patient-doctor privilege should apply. In order to violate this principle (at least
in the U.S.), a subpoena would have to be issued to the doctor. In any case, the doctor and his
lawyer would ordinarily be the ones to release the information if mandated to do so (by the
courts, not any professional organization).

Steve

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I should also add that prisons are full of convicts who pled guilty but then claim they didn't do
what they admitted to doing.

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cyclingnews.comnewsOpen ↗ Canadian EPO doctor denies supplying
<snip> Canadian doctor Maurice Duquette, who pleaded guilty on Monday to

prescribing

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EPO to an as-yet-unnamed Quebec female cyclist and her coach, has now

denied

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giving the rider drugs. <snip> The previous day, Duquette pleaded guilty to 14 charges of
administering

banned

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drugs to 11 patients between 1998 and 2001, including three instances

involving

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the rider. Go read it for yourself, and keep defending him. Bill C

The guilty plea is far more significant than the letter. And if the

doctor

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now says he lied under oath to the court in making his plea, he'll be in even deeper [censored].

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TritonRider said:

cyclingnews.comnewsOpen ↗ Canadian EPO doctor denies supplying
<snip> Canadian doctor Maurice Duquette, who pleaded guilty on Monday to

prescribing

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EPO to an as-yet-unnamed Quebec female cyclist and her coach, has now

denied

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giving the rider drugs. <snip> The previous day, Duquette pleaded guilty to 14 charges of
administering

banned

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drugs to 11 patients between 1998 and 2001, including three instances

involving

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the rider. Go read it for yourself, and keep defending him. Bill C

I find it a bit odd that the CPS has control over whether the rider's

name

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becomes public. Ordinarily, patient-doctor privilege should apply. In

order to

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violate this principle (at least in the U.S.), a subpoena would have to be

issued

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to the doctor. In any case, the doctor and his lawyer would ordinarily be

the ones

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to release the information if mandated to do so (by the courts, not any professional
organization).

Steve

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Doctor patient privilege does not apply to doctor and patient engaged in an illegal act. The
privilege normally rests with the patient who controls what the doctor can reveal.

B. Lafferty said:

Doctor patient privilege does not apply to doctor and patient engaged in an illegal act. The
privilege normally rests with the patient who controls what the doctor can reveal.

Agreed. But in practice, since there has not yet been a legal finding of a crime, the court
would subpoena the records. Of course the patient can authorize the release of information from
the doctor.

Steve

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B. Lafferty said:

Doctor patient privilege does not apply to doctor and patient engaged in

an

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illegal act. The privilege normally rests with the patient who controls what the doctor can
reveal.

Agreed. But in practice, since there has not yet been a legal finding

of a

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crime, the court would subpoena the records. Of course the patient can authorize the release of
information from the doctor.

Steve

It's an interesting situation. There has been a legal finding with the guilty plea. The plea would
normally be to specific allegations including the names of those to whom the defendant supplied. I
suspect this was the case with this plea, due to the gag order. The plea should be a public record
open to all unless there is a legitimate governmental interest in keeping the names secret, such as
further police investigations. Again, you can't claim a privilege to the joint commission of a crime
(I can see a bank heist spree with ones doctor, lawyer or minister). The court could certainly order
the defendant to turn over any record that the prosecution didn't already have, if relevant to the
case before it.

The patient does indeed hold the privilege, and the patient's file is generally the patient's
property with a few minor wrinkles.

B. Lafferty said:

It's an interesting situation. There has been a legal finding with the guilty plea. The plea would
normally be to specific allegations including the names of those to whom the defendant supplied. I
suspect this was the case with this plea, due to the gag order. The plea should be a public record
open to all unless there is a legitimate governmental interest in keeping the names secret, such
as further police investigations. Again, you can't claim a privilege to the joint commission of a
crime (I can see a bank heist spree with ones doctor, lawyer or minister). The court could
certainly order the defendant to turn over any record that the prosecution didn't already have, if
relevant to the case before it.

The patient does indeed hold the privilege, and the patient's file is generally the patient's
property with a few minor wrinkles.

Interesting. In NY State, the physical records are the property of the doctor. The doctor must
furnish copies to the patient on demand, and a "reasonable" fee for the reproduction of records
may be charged.

Steve

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From: "Kurgan Gringioni" [email hidden]

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I blame the riders more than the doctor.

They're the ones seeking to gain an advantage. The doctor really doesn't benefit, especially in a
socialized system like Canada has.

Wanna bet he collected some good old capitalist gains on this? Both groups are being unethical.
An unethical cyclist might kill himself, an unethical doctor could destroy a whole lot more.
That's my opinion. Sherlock Holmes in one of the stories comments, that "There is no more
dangerous and evil adversary than a doctor gone bad." He goes on to explain that they are
educated, logical, and know our scientific method and use it against us. Bill C

Uh huh. I'd like to point out that Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, writer of those books, was a doctor
himself. He was also, despite being educated, logical, acquainted with the scientific method, and
the creator of the most famous fictional detective ever, a spiritualism nut.

No really: In a non-fiction work entitled "The Edge of the Unknown", he claims that Harry Houdini
must have had supernatural powers because no normal magician could have done what he did so well.

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