Hard rubbish haul

eddiec said:

Well, it seems FD hadn't picked Balwyn entirely clean, ....

Actually i did very little 'hunting'. the garden art thing is a good idea tho.
perhaps i need to learn how to weld...

flyingdutch said:

Actually i did very little 'hunting'. the garden art thing is a good idea tho.
perhaps i need to learn how to weld...

Does London do hard rubbish days?

hippy

hippy said:

Does London do hard rubbish days?

hippy

No, it's up to the individual to take it to the tip.

flyingdutch said:

eddiec said:

Well, it seems FD hadn't picked Balwyn entirely clean, ....

Actually i did very little 'hunting'. the garden art thing is a good
idea tho.
perhaps i need to learn how to weld...

A welding class is next on my list as soon as the MBA studies have
finished. What an excuse to buy new tools!

DaveB

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Well, it seems FD hadn't picked Balwyn entirely clean, as I managed to
sight a few possibilities on the ride home last night that must have
just recently appeared, dashed home and got the wagon, then under the
cover of darkness elusively stole them away :-) (Took photos but due to
the darkness and my over-excitement, they're a tad blurry!)

I'm tempted to scour the streets in the darkness.. but argh, cbf.. Imagine
the day we start seeing CF frame bikes thrown out in hard waste...

<dream>
"yeah, found this '25 model Google CF frame* last night and built a 2kg
commuter"....
</dream>

Be sure to post your daytime pics of your pickings eddiec!

cheers,
GPL
:* what won't they do by 2025?:

eddiec wrote:

SNIP

Quoted message said:

Exhibit A m'lud: British made Raleigh Scorpio. By the 'Tour de France
1977' sticker I assume it's from then roughly. OK condition.
Highlights: some funky centre-pull Raleigh/Weinmann calipers which have
an action i've never seen before, plus full Raleigh branded groupset.

SNIP

A Rayleigh Scorpio - my first ever road bike! I can even remember
drooling over the Rayleigh catalogue of the time and imagining that
if I had that bike, I'd never need to need another one. Look at
all those gears! 10 of them! I think mine had chromed steel rims.
I paid for it by helping my Dad on a building site. I bought it from
a small shop in Adelaide - called "Cranks" I think - don't know if
they're still there. I remember the centre-pull brakes and I think
my bike had the brake-lever extensions across the top of the bars.
Hmm, have to check some old photos.

Did me great service including a two week tour of Tasmania, Jan 1981
(just after I finished year 12). I sold it many years later to someone
who owned if for about a month before it was stolen of their front porch.

Ah, memories...

DeF

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DeF said:

eddiec wrote:

SNIP

Quoted message said:

Exhibit A m'lud: British made Raleigh Scorpio. By the 'Tour de France
1977' sticker I assume it's from then roughly. OK condition.
Highlights: some funky centre-pull Raleigh/Weinmann calipers which have
an action i've never seen before, plus full Raleigh branded groupset.

SNIP

A Rayleigh Scorpio - my first ever road bike! I can even remember
drooling over the Rayleigh catalogue of the time and imagining that
if I had that bike, I'd never need to need another one. Look at
all those gears! 10 of them! I think mine had chromed steel rims.
I paid for it by helping my Dad on a building site. I bought it from
a small shop in Adelaide - called "Cranks" I think - don't know if
they're still there. I remember the centre-pull brakes and I think
my bike had the brake-lever extensions across the top of the bars.
Hmm, have to check some old photos.

Did me great service including a two week tour of Tasmania, Jan 1981
(just after I finished year 12). I sold it many years later to someone
who owned if for about a month before it was stolen of their front porch.

Ah, memories...

DeF

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Ooh, yay. Information. Anything you know about the specs of these bikes would be terribly handy, as I'm looking to restore and modify... At this stage I don't even know which of the pile of wheels i picked up from the same load goes onto it!

Eddie,
Check out retroraleighs.com

Here's the USA 1977 catalog
http://www.retroraleighs.com/catalogs/1977/index.html

It's not listed, but if you can identify the components you can see where in
the line up it fits in.

I have a 1974 Super Course MkII, now the only original parts are the
frame/fork, headset, brake/lever, stem & bars. The rest is new/ebay and
built up into a nice commuting fixie.
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/7991/img37692pr.jpg

I'm using the Weinmann centre-pull brake on the front, but with Kool-Stop
salmon pads, They *just* reach 700c wheels without scrubbing the sidewall,
provide decent stopping power and huge amounts of clearance for big tyres &
fenders. I spent a few hours pulling them down and cleaning out all the
gunk, then polishing the arms, greasing the bushes etc.
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/6329/frontbrake1cj.jpg

If you really want to restore, I have a lot of parts left over, eg; 27"
Weinnman rims, Normandy hubs, Stronglight crankset & BB to suit.

Andrew.

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Quoted message said:

Ooh, yay. Information. Anything you know about the specs of these bikes
would be terribly handy, as I'm looking to restore and modify... At this
stage I don't even know which of the pile of wheels i picked up from the
same load goes onto it!

--
eddiec

Riding home through the streets of Vermont there are many a bikes to be had but I keep on telling myself I'm over collecting bikes from the rubbish collection.

Anyway all I do now is just go to a friends place who has not moved on like I and view his backyard full of old bikes. He has 10 good bikes ready to be used at some stage, probably never.

Andrew Blake said:

Eddie,
Check out retroraleighs.com

Here's the USA 1977 catalog
http://www.retroraleighs.com/catalogs/1977/index.html

It's not listed, but if you can identify the components you can see where in
the line up it fits in.

I have a 1974 Super Course MkII, now the only original parts are the
frame/fork, headset, brake/lever, stem & bars. The rest is new/ebay and
built up into a nice commuting fixie.
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/7991/img37692pr.jpg

I'm using the Weinmann centre-pull brake on the front, but with Kool-Stop
salmon pads, They *just* reach 700c wheels without scrubbing the sidewall,
provide decent stopping power and huge amounts of clearance for big tyres &
fenders. I spent a few hours pulling them down and cleaning out all the
gunk, then polishing the arms, greasing the bushes etc.
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/6329/frontbrake1cj.jpg

If you really want to restore, I have a lot of parts left over, eg; 27"
Weinnman rims, Normandy hubs, Stronglight crankset & BB to suit.

Andrew.

Thanks for that. Spec wise it appears to be close to this: http://www.retroraleighs.com/catalogs/1977/pages/08-77-record-limited.html

Of course, it's hard to tell when the derailleur's missing, as well as a few other bits (hmm... what size seatposts do these damn things take!)... Good to know 700c's fit.

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Quoted message said:

Thanks for that. Spec wise it appears to be close to this:
http://www.retroraleighs.com/catalogs/1977/pages/08-77-record-limited.html

Of course, it's hard to tell when the derailleur's missing, as well as
a few other bits (hmm... what size seatposts do these damn things
take!)... Good to know 700c's fit.

2030 steel, not awesome, but not gaspipe. Would be a good beater but doesn't
deserve a proper resto. Clearly perfect fixie material.

As far as the seatpost goes. I bought a 26.4 and turned it down on a lathe
to 26.2.

Sheldon to the rescue again:
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/seatpost-sizes-m-z.html#r
Would be safest to measure the seat tube with verniers though.

flyingdutch said:

eddiec said:

Well, it seems FD hadn't picked Balwyn entirely clean, ....

Actually i did very little 'hunting'. the garden art thing is a good
idea tho.
perhaps i need to learn how to weld...

NOOOOO, don't go there.
You have been warned. {:-).

I'm almost totally hooked. Had a stick job for ~15 years and seriously
considering the rental on oxy gear after three years of evening welding
classes at Tafe (Oxy & Tig).

I'd buy a tig but I just don't have the hand steadiness and cheap tigs
are a waste of dosh IMO.

eddiec said:

Ooh, yay. Information. Anything you know about the specs of these bikes
would be terribly handy, as I'm looking to restore and modify...

Have a look at Sheldon Brown's site. He has some info on old Raleighs,
and some links to more info.

I know this because a discussion with my next door neighbour about
needing to find a station bike [1] lead to him chucking an old Raleigh
over the fence, which if the internet can be believed dates back to
1973. I'm thinking the Suntour derailleur is a retrofit, if so.

Dave - who had to buy a new tyre, but otherwise it mostly works.

[1] A bike that looks crappy enough, and is cheap enough, that I can
ride it to the station and leave it there. Good for when I'm too lazy
to ride all the way to work.

eddiec said:

DeF said:

eddiec wrote:

SNIP

Quoted message said:

Exhibit A m'lud: British made Raleigh Scorpio. By the 'Tour de

France

Quoted message said:

1977' sticker I assume it's from then roughly. OK condition.
Highlights: some funky centre-pull Raleigh/Weinmann calipers which

have

Quoted message said:

an action i've never seen before, plus full Raleigh branded

groupset.

SNIP

A Rayleigh Scorpio - my first ever road bike! I can even remember
drooling over the Rayleigh catalogue of the time and imagining that
if I had that bike, I'd never need to need another one. Look at
all those gears! 10 of them! I think mine had chromed steel rims.
I paid for it by helping my Dad on a building site. I bought it from
a small shop in Adelaide - called "Cranks" I think - don't know if
they're still there. I remember the centre-pull brakes and I think
my bike had the brake-lever extensions across the top of the bars.
Hmm, have to check some old photos.

Did me great service including a two week tour of Tasmania, Jan 1981
(just after I finished year 12). I sold it many years later to
someone
who owned if for about a month before it was stolen of their front
porch.

Ah, memories...

DeF

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Ooh, yay. Information. Anything you know about the specs of these bikes
would be terribly handy, as I'm looking to restore and modify... At this
stage I don't even know which of the pile of wheels i picked up from the
same load goes onto it!

I've dug up and scanned an old picture of me and the Scorpio. Not
sure how much use it will be - send me an e-mail and I'll send it
to you. I was going to put it up on my web page but there's something
wrong with our server connections at the moment.

Cheers,
DeF

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DeF said:

eddiec wrote:

SNIP

Quoted message said:

Exhibit A m'lud: British made Raleigh Scorpio. By the 'Tour de France
1977' sticker I assume it's from then roughly. OK condition.
Highlights: some funky centre-pull Raleigh/Weinmann calipers which have
an action i've never seen before, plus full Raleigh branded groupset.

SNIP

A Rayleigh Scorpio - my first ever road bike! I can even remember
drooling over the Rayleigh catalogue of the time and imagining that
if I had that bike, I'd never need to need another one. Look at
all those gears! 10 of them! I think mine had chromed steel rims.
I paid for it by helping my Dad on a building site. I bought it from
a small shop in Adelaide - called "Cranks" I think - don't know if
they're still there. I remember the centre-pull brakes and I think
my bike had the brake-lever extensions across the top of the bars.
Hmm, have to check some old photos.

Did me great service including a two week tour of Tasmania, Jan 1981
(just after I finished year 12). I sold it many years later to someone
who owned if for about a month before it was stolen of their front porch.

Ah, memories...

DeF

And now for the photographic evidence:

http://wwwstaff.murdoch.edu.au/~dfarrow/images/RayleighScorpio.jpg

Any comments on the hair will be studiously ignored.
T'was circa 1977, remember. The bike in the background was my sister's.

DeF

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DeF said:

And now for the photographic evidence:

http://wwwstaff.murdoch.edu.au/~dfarrow/images/RayleighScorpio.jpg

Any comments on the hair will be studiously ignored.
T'was circa 1977, remember. The bike in the background was my sister's.

DeF

What's that on the front of the bars? Is it lights or a radio, please
tell me it's a radio. My brother still pisses himself laughing over me
cycling up Kinglake with the ghetto blaster ocky strapped to the back.

DaveB "mp3 players are for wusses"

DaveB said:

DeF said:

And now for the photographic evidence:

http://wwwstaff.murdoch.edu.au/~dfarrow/images/RayleighScorpio.jpg

Any comments on the hair will be studiously ignored.
T'was circa 1977, remember. The bike in the background was my sister's.

DeF

What's that on the front of the bars? Is it lights or a radio, please
tell me it's a radio. My brother still pisses himself laughing over me
cycling up Kinglake with the ghetto blaster ocky strapped to the back.

DaveB "mp3 players are for wusses"

Sorry to disappoint - it's an Army Surplus hip bag that I
adapted to a handlebar bag. I've still got it somewhere, I keep
fishing tackle in it now, I think.

I used to have a radio that clamped onto the bars with the speaker
facing the rider. Main problem was it was AM only and the reception
depended strongly on it's orientation!

Great bike though. Cottered steel cranks, steel rims, centrepull
brakes, steel seatpost, downtube friction shifters and chromed
steel mudguards. Ridden with no helmet, lycra, gloves or toeclips.
I used to go down Mt Barker road from Bridgewater to the City
like this!

Scary.

DeF

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

And now for the photographic evidence:

http://wwwstaff.murdoch.edu.au/~dfarrow/images/RayleighScorpio.jpg

Any comments on the hair will be studiously ignored.
T'was circa 1977, remember. The bike in the background was my sister's.

DeF

Coolness...colour corrected and tweaked for your convenience:
http://photobucket.com/albums/v222/Resound/?action=view&current=defcorrect.jpg

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DaveB said:

DeF said:

And now for the photographic evidence:

http://wwwstaff.murdoch.edu.au/~dfarrow/images/RayleighScorpio.jpg

Any comments on the hair will be studiously ignored.
T'was circa 1977, remember. The bike in the background was my
sister's.

DeF

What's that on the front of the bars? Is it lights or a radio, please
tell me it's a radio. My brother still pisses himself laughing over
me cycling up Kinglake with the ghetto blaster ocky strapped to the
back.

DaveB "mp3 players are for wusses"

Sorry to disappoint - it's an Army Surplus hip bag that I
adapted to a handlebar bag. I've still got it somewhere, I keep
fishing tackle in it now, I think.

I used to have a radio that clamped onto the bars with the speaker
facing the rider. Main problem was it was AM only and the reception
depended strongly on it's orientation!

Great bike though. Cottered steel cranks, steel rims, centrepull
brakes, steel seatpost, downtube friction shifters and chromed
steel mudguards. Ridden with no helmet, lycra, gloves or toeclips.
I used to go down Mt Barker road from Bridgewater to the City
like this!

Scary.

DeF

Ahhhhh for the days of the cottered crank. Do no maintenance and you to
can feel that screeee clunk half way through every stroke 40k from home.
With clips variable crank spacing is great for the calfs.

Better yet, fail to bother changing the nicely chamfered cotter pin and
sheer it completely the first time you hammer it on a hill in a road
race......ah shiiiiii...splat.

Cheers

BrettM