Happy New Year

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A new year dawns

So let's quit Bonkin' and start Bikin'

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Davey Crockett

Happy New Year.

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A new year dawns

So let's quit Bonkin' and start Bikin'

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Davey Crockett

Happy New Year Davey!

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A new year dawns

So let's quit Bonkin' and start Bikin'

Happy new year Davey. I put in at least 22 miles today and 11 of it was
straight into a 25 or 30 mph headwind.

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Davey Crockett said:

A new year dawns

So let's quit Bonkin' and start Bikin'

You know why Davey is back here again? Because he heard about the
Burnaby Velodrome 6-Day.

-RjC.

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Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

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Ryan Cousineau said:

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Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

Ryan, you know the ramifications here?

--
Michael Press

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Michael Press said:

In article
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Ryan Cousineau said:

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Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

Ryan, you know the ramifications here?

Well, I know the context...I'll trade you for the ramifications:

http://www.slate.com/id/2118315/

Quoting from the article:

There's also the risk that Adderall can work too well. The mathematician
Paul Erdös, who famously opined that "a mathematician is a device for
turning coffee into theorems," began taking Benzedrine in his late 50s
and credited the drug with extending his productivity long past the
expiration date of his colleagues. But he eventually became
psychologically dependent. In 1979, a friend offered Erdös $500 if he
could kick his Benzedrine habit for just a month. Erdös met the
challenge, but his productivity plummeted so drastically that he decided
to go back on the drug. After a 1987 Atlantic Monthly profile discussed
his love affair with psychostimulants, the mathematician wrote the
author a rueful note. "You shouldn't have mentioned the stuff about
Benzedrine," he said. "It's not that you got it wrong. It's just that I
don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics to think
that they have to take drugs to succeed."

Erdös had good reason to worry. Kerouac's excessive use of Benzedrine
eventually landed him in a hospital with thrombophlebitis. Auden went
through a withdrawal in the late 1950s that tragically curtailed his
output.

End quote.

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Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

In article
<[email hidden]>,

Ryan Cousineau said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Michael Press said:

In article
<[email hidden]>,

Ryan Cousineau said:

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Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

Ryan, you know the ramifications here?

Well, I know the context...I'll trade you for the ramifications:

http://www.slate.com/id/2118315/

Quoting from the article:

There's also the risk that Adderall can work too well. The mathematician
Paul Erdös, who famously opined that "a mathematician is a device for
turning coffee into theorems," began taking Benzedrine in his late 50s
and credited the drug with extending his productivity long past the
expiration date of his colleagues. But he eventually became
psychologically dependent. In 1979, a friend offered Erdös $500 if he
could kick his Benzedrine habit for just a month. Erdös met the
challenge, but his productivity plummeted so drastically that he decided
to go back on the drug. After a 1987 Atlantic Monthly profile discussed
his love affair with psychostimulants, the mathematician wrote the
author a rueful note. "You shouldn't have mentioned the stuff about
Benzedrine," he said. "It's not that you got it wrong. It's just that I
don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics to think
that they have to take drugs to succeed."

Erdös had good reason to worry. Kerouac's excessive use of Benzedrine
eventually landed him in a hospital with thrombophlebitis. Auden went
through a withdrawal in the late 1950s that tragically curtailed his
output.

End quote.

That is all I was talking about. He also took Ritalin most days.

--
Michael Press

Ryan Cousineau said:

http://www.slate.com/id/2118315/

Quoting from the article:

There's also the risk that Adderall can work too well. The mathematician
Paul Erdös, who famously opined that "a mathematician is a device for
turning coffee into theorems," began taking Benzedrine in his late 50s
and credited the drug with extending his productivity long past the
expiration date of his colleagues. But he eventually became
psychologically dependent. In 1979, a friend offered Erdös $500 if he
could kick his Benzedrine habit for just a month. Erdös met the
challenge, but his productivity plummeted so drastically that he decided
to go back on the drug. After a 1987 Atlantic Monthly profile discussed
his love affair with psychostimulants, the mathematician wrote the
author a rueful note. "You shouldn't have mentioned the stuff about
Benzedrine," he said. "It's not that you got it wrong. It's just that I
don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics to think
that they have to take drugs to succeed."

Typical doper, wants the benefits of doping but doesn't want
to own up to it. Only human. But Erdos here is qualified to be
a cycling coach - he just wants the kids to think the game is clean
as they're coming up. Then when they're fully committed to it -
their first serious team, or grad school - that's when they find
out what they're going to have to do if they want to succeed,
or even just to stay in the game. That's how the abusive
underside of the profession is perpetuated.
[censored] Pound should take away all his theorems.

Ryan Cousineau said:

Quoted message said:

Quoting from the article:
There's also the risk that Adderall can work too well. The mathematician
Paul Erdös, who famously opined that "a mathematician is a device for
turning coffee into theorems," began taking Benzedrine in his late 50s
and credited the drug with extending his productivity long past the
expiration date of his colleagues.

Quoted message said:

[censored] Pound should take away all his theorems.

And ban him from the Pro tour for mathematicians.

Of course Astrophysics is clean.

Donald Munro said:

Quoted message said:

[censored] Pound should take away all his theorems.

And ban him from the Pro tour for mathematicians.

Of course Astrophysics is clean.

Yeah, sure. It's more like this all the time:

http://www.mnftiu.cc/mnftiu.cc/fighting.069.html

It's a dirty job, but someone's gotta do it.
Benzedrine abuse is the minimum you can expect.
After all the profession was founded on staying up all
night to squint at the stars and predict the future.
You can't do that on just mineral water.

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Quoted post said:

Ryan Cousineau said:

http://www.slate.com/id/2118315/

Quoting from the article:

There's also the risk that Adderall can work too well. The mathematician
Paul Erdös, who famously opined that "a mathematician is a device for
turning coffee into theorems," began taking Benzedrine in his late 50s
and credited the drug with extending his productivity long past the
expiration date of his colleagues. But he eventually became
psychologically dependent. In 1979, a friend offered Erdös $500 if he
could kick his Benzedrine habit for just a month. Erdös met the
challenge, but his productivity plummeted so drastically that he decided
to go back on the drug. After a 1987 Atlantic Monthly profile discussed
his love affair with psychostimulants, the mathematician wrote the
author a rueful note. "You shouldn't have mentioned the stuff about
Benzedrine," he said. "It's not that you got it wrong. It's just that I
don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics to think
that they have to take drugs to succeed."

Typical doper, wants the benefits of doping but doesn't want
to own up to it. Only human. But Erdos here is qualified to be
a cycling coach - he just wants the kids to think the game is clean
as they're coming up. Then when they're fully committed to it -
their first serious team, or grad school - that's when they find
out what they're going to have to do if they want to succeed,
or even just to stay in the game. That's how the abusive
underside of the profession is perpetuated.
[censored] Pound should take away all his theorems.

Heh.

Okay, bonus question: why do I think what Erdös did was not that bad and
yet really hate cycling dopers?

Not a trick question,

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Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos