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  1. I've decided to limit my Newsgroup time to rec.bicycle.tech in the
    coming year. Over the last few months, I have seen rec.bicycles.misc
    go from a mostly on topic, reasonably friendly place, to something I
    no longer enjoy.

    Way too often topics are getting hijacked with political debate. There
    also seems to be a streak of meanness and a lack of tolerance for
    opposing views. These debates often include name twisting insults and
    personal attacks. I've seen a regular who used to demonstrate a
    playful sense of humor, become bitter,and meanspirited, while
    relentlessly posting, whether it adds anything of value, or not. A
    place where the word "liberal" is used as an insult, is nowhere that
    I belong. if I wanted to discuss politics, that is the type of
    newsgroup that I would have joined. There are good reasons why they
    recommend not discussing politics and religion at social gatherings.
    People have very strong opinions on both and discussion in those
    settings [and here], accomplish little and often alienate many.

    I will miss many of the good hearted regulars, that I have grown to
    appreciate, fortunately most of them also are regulars over at tech.

    To all of you, and I do mean all, I wish you Happy Holidays and an
    excellent New Year! Let's hope it includes lots of riding, sunny days,
    and gentle winds.

    After I post this, I will remove rec.bicycle.misc from my subscribed
    newsgroups. I will look in on this thread via Google Groups. I may
    return in the spring, if I hear that all the anger and bitterness has
    subsided.

    Remember, overall -

    Life is Good!
    Jeff

  2. Well, drop in when you can and have a Merry Christmas and a great and
    positive New Year.

  3. "Jeff Starr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I will miss many of the good hearted regulars, that I have grown to
    appreciate, fortunately most of them also are regulars over at tech.

    I'm not one of them, so I guess this is hasta la vista -- sorry to see you
    go.

    --
    Warm Regards,

    Claire Petersky
    Personal page: http://www.geocities.com/cpetersky/
    See the books I've set free at:
    http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky

  4. "Jeff Starr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I've decided to limit my Newsgroup time to rec.bicycle.tech in the
    coming year.

    I don't care who you are, these suicide notes are real buzz-killers...

  5. "Claire Petersky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Jeff Starr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I will miss many of the good hearted regulars, that I have grown to
    appreciate, fortunately most of them also are regulars over at tech.

    I'm not one of them, so I guess this is hasta la vista -- sorry to see you
    go.

    Yeah, hasta la pasta. Say hi to Fabrizio for us.

  6. On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 16:25:22 GMT, Jeff Starr <[email hidden]>
    said in <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    Way too often topics are getting hijacked with political debate. There
    also seems to be a streak of meanness and a lack of tolerance for
    opposing views.

    You pinko commie subversive! How dare you say that! - oh, wait...

    Guy
    --
    May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound

  7. Jeff Starr said:

    I've decided to limit my Newsgroup time to rec.bicycle.tech in the
    coming year. Over the last few months, I have seen rec.bicycles.misc
    go from a mostly on topic, reasonably friendly place, to something I
    no longer enjoy.

    I have also noticed a seeming lack of decent conversation. I also
    rarely get involved in the political fights, especially since so many
    of the people (on both sides) are impervious qvpxurnqf who are just
    taking the opportunity to vent their spleen at "the other side" from
    a safe place (i.e. the internet).

    Quoted message said:

    I will miss many of the good hearted regulars, that I have grown to
    appreciate, fortunately most of them also are regulars over at tech.

    Ah, bummer. Like Claire, I rarely frequent rbt. I do a lot of
    wrenching, but I can't bring myself to care about most of the topics
    discussed there.

    Quoted message said:

    After I post this, I will remove rec.bicycle.misc from my subscribed
    newsgroups. I will look in on this thread via Google Groups. I may
    return in the spring, if I hear that all the anger and bitterness has
    subsided.

    After I post this, I'm going to go ride my bike around the neighborhood
    to look at the light displays (and burn off all the cookies and sweets
    I've been ingesting). I (heart) dyno-hubs.

    Merry Squidmas to you all!

    --
    Dane Buson - z u v e m b i @ u n i x b i g o t s . o r g
    Fortune's Real-Life Courtroom Quote #3:

    Q: When he went, had you gone and had she, if she wanted to and were
    able, for the time being excluding all the restraints on her not to
    go, gone also, would he have brought you, meaning you and she, with
    him to the station?
    MR. BROOKS: Objection. That question should be taken out and shot.

  8. Jeff Starr said:

    I've decided to limit my Newsgroup time to rec.bicycle.tech in the
    coming year. Over the last few months, I have seen rec.bicycles.misc
    go from a mostly on topic, reasonably friendly place, to something I
    no longer enjoy.

    Way too often topics are getting hijacked with political debate. There
    also seems to be a streak of meanness and a lack of tolerance for
    opposing views. These debates often include name twisting insults and
    personal attacks. I've seen a regular who used to demonstrate a
    playful sense of humor, become bitter,and meanspirited, while
    relentlessly posting, whether it adds anything of value, or not. A
    place where the word "liberal" is used as an insult, is nowhere that
    I belong. if I wanted to discuss politics, that is the type of
    newsgroup that I would have joined. There are good reasons why they
    recommend not discussing politics and religion at social gatherings.
    People have very strong opinions on both and discussion in those
    settings [and here], accomplish little and often alienate many.

    I will miss many of the good hearted regulars, that I have grown to
    appreciate, fortunately most of them also are regulars over at tech.

    To all of you, and I do mean all, I wish you Happy Holidays and an
    excellent New Year! Let's hope it includes lots of riding, sunny days,
    and gentle winds.

    After I post this, I will remove rec.bicycle.misc from my subscribed
    newsgroups. I will look in on this thread via Google Groups. I may
    return in the spring, if I hear that all the anger and bitterness has
    subsided.

    Remember, overall -

    Life is Good!
    Jeff

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