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  1. Craig Brossman said:
    Paladin said:

    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=78882

    Knew there was another reason to like this guy....

    CDB

    Independent of the political stuff, I love this quote

    "He's obsessed with it," McKinnon said. "He now likes to do nothing but
    work out on his bike, and he does it with a frenzy that is reserved for
    people like Lance Armstrong."

    From the view of a typical beltway resident, I suppose it appears that
    Bush and Armstrong have the same fervor for riding, that is not how I
    see it from Durango.

    I'd prefer Shrub to spend "six hours a day on his bike, busting his
    ass." He would do less damage that way.

    --
    --
    Lynn Wallace http://www.xmission.com/~lawall
    "We should not march into Baghdad. ... Assigning young soldiers to
    a fruitless hunt for a securely entrenched dictator and condemning
    them to fight in what would be an unwinnable urban guerilla war, it
    could only plunge that part of the world into ever greater
    instability." George Bush Sr. in his 1998 book "A World Transformed"

  2. http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=78882

    Knew there was another reason to like this guy....

    CDB

  3. You mean there's something other than his mtn biking to like?

    GT

  4. Paladin said:

    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=78882

    Knew there was another reason to like this guy....

    CDB

    If he was such a friend to MTB, then he'd do away with the Wilderness
    law that forbids us to ride on a great part of this country because it
    is "mechanized" travel. Love him or hate him, and I feel both ways at
    times he should practice what he is now preaching about mountain biking.

    OPEN UP THE LAND!

    This bill is about to go through congress. Two bits says he'll sign it:

    Nationwide Alert: Senate Bill Threatens California Trails

    -- Phone calls urged by Wednesday Feb. 16.

    A Senate committee will vote this Wednesday, Feb. 16, on a reintroduced
    Wilderness bill that would ban mountain biking from 170 miles of singletrack
    trails in Northern California. Mountain bikers nationwide are urged to ask
    their senators to delay action on the bill until suitable compromises are
    reached and bicycling is accommodated. Your call is especially important if
    your senator is a member of the Senate Energy and Natural Resource Committee
    listed below.

    Senate Bill 128 (S. 128), the Northern California Coastal Wild Heritage
    Wilderness Act, sponsored by U.S. Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA), would
    designate more than 300,000 acres as federal Wilderness. Popular trails
    would be closed such as King's Crest and Lost Coast-Chemise Mountain in the
    King Range National Conservation Area and the Red Bud and Judge Davis trails
    near Cache Creek in Lake County. View a complete list of threatened trails:
    http://www.imba.com/news/action_alerts/ca_wilderness/hr1501_mtb_miles_lost.h
    tml

    IMBA remains firmly dedicated to land conservation and believes that
    Wilderness designation is just one of many tools that may be employed to
    protect wild places. When proposed Wilderness Areas include significant
    mountain biking opportunities, IMBA proposes alternative land designations
    that protect natural areas while preserving bicycle access.

    IMBA supports protecting all lands in the bill, but for one-quarter of the
    areas under consideration, Congress should use protection measures other
    than Wilderness or adjust boundaries to accommodate bicycling.

    IMBA believes mountain biking, low-impact, muscle-powered recreation, is
    an appropriate use of trails on public lands and is consistent with the
    values of Wilderness land protection which includes recreation in natural
    landscapes.

    Talking Points:

    * Senate Bill 128 needs to better accommodate bicycling and is not ready for
    passage. Please delay action in the Senate and House until suitable
    compromises are reached.

    * This bill would close more than 170 miles of singletrack trails to
    bicycling.

    * IMBA supports protecting all the lands in S. 128, but for one-quarter of
    the areas under consideration, Congress should use methods other than
    Wilderness to preserve the land while keeping trails open to mountain
    biking.

    * Wilderness is not the only way to protect public lands. Why must land
    protection often mean eliminating bicycling opportunities?

    * Mountain biking started in California and is a popular sport - 5.2 million
    Californians participated last year (Outdoor Industry Association).

    * Mountain biking brings significant revenue to the state's economy through
    bicycle related industry, tourism, bike shops, touring companies and more.

    * Mountain biking is low-impact, muscle-powered recreation and is an
    appropriate use of trails on public lands. IMBA members highly value land
    conservation, clean water and clean air.

    * IMBA supports new Wilderness designations where they don't close
    singletrack bicycling opportunities.

    * Bicyclists simply want to continue to ride on trails that have been open
    to them for years.

    * Recreation science indicates that bikes affect natural resources no more
    than hikers or horses - two user groups allowed on Wilderness trails.

    Action Steps:

    1. Call your two U.S. senators using the Capitol switchboard (202) 224-3121.
    (To learn the name of your state's senators go to http://www.congress.org
    and type in your zip code.) Members of the Senate Energy and Natural
    Resources Committee are listed below.

    2. Politely tell them you are calling in regards to S. 128 (Northern
    California Coastal Wild Heritage Wilderness Act) and use the talking points
    above. If the senator is not a member of the committee, your comments are
    still important because the entire U.S. Senate will be asked to vote on the
    bill before it goes to the U.S. House of Representatives.

    3. Please provide your name and address so that they know you are a
    constituent. Senators respond best to callers from their home state - if you
    don't give them contact information, your call probably won't count.

    4. If you would rather fax a letter, call your senator's office to get the
    proper fax number and staff member assigned to the bill. Make sure to fax
    your comments by Wednesday. Email comments are not recommended.

    --
    Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee

    Chairman Pete Domenici, New Mexico (202) 224 - 6621
    Larry Craig, Idaho (202) 224 - 2752
    Craig Thomas, Wyoming (202) 224 - 6441
    Lamar Alexander, Tennessee (202) 224 - 4944
    Lisa Murkowski, Alaska (202) 224 - 6665
    Richard Burr, North Carolina (202) 224 - 3154
    Mel Martinez, Florida (202) 224 - 3041
    James Talent, Missouri (202) 224 - 6154
    Conrad Burns, Montana (202) 224 - 2644
    George Allen, Virginia (202) 224 - 4024
    Gordon Smith, Oregon (202) 224 - 3753
    Jim Bunning, Kentucky (202) 224 - 4343
    Jeff Bingaman (Ranking Member), New Mexico (202) 224 - 5521
    Daniel Akaka, Hawaii (202) 224 - 6361
    Byron Dorgan, North Dakota (202) 224 - 2551
    Ron Wyden, Oregon (202) 224 - 5244
    Tim Johnson, South Dakota (202) 224 - 5842
    Mary Landrieu, Louisiana (202) 224 - 5824
    Dianne Feinstein, California (202) 224 - 3841
    Maria Cantwell, Washington (202) 224 - 3441
    Jon Corzine, New Jersey (202) 224 - 4744
    Ken Salazar, Colorado (202) 224 - 5852

    --

    Read IMBA's Strategy for Wilderness and Mountain Biking:
    http://www.imba.com/news/news_releases/02_05/02_10_wilderness.html

    Attend IMBA's 24 Hours of D.C. - April 6-7
    http://www.imba.com/news/news_releases/01_05/01_06_dc.html
    --

    About IMBA

    Founded in 1988, the International Mountain Bicycling Association is a
    nonprofit educational association whose mission is to create, enhance and
    preserve trail opportunities for mountain bikers worldwide by encouraging
    low-impact riding, volunteer trailwork, cooperation among different trail
    user groups and innovative trail management solutions. IMBA's worldwide
    network is comprised of individual members, bicycle clubs, corporate
    partners and bicycle retailers.

    --
    o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
    www.schnauzers.ws

  5. Ride-A-Lot said:
    Paladin said:

    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=78882

    Knew there was another reason to like this guy....

    CDB

    If he was such a friend to MTB, then he'd do away with the Wilderness
    law that forbids us to ride on a great part of this country because it
    is "mechanized" travel. Love him or hate him, and I feel both ways at
    times he should practice what he is now preaching about mountain
    biking.


    Whatever GWB's personal views are toward laws that govern pulic land use
    laws are almost irrelevent. In the big scheme of things, it's not only his
    call. He's got Congress and the Supreme Court to contend with on any piece
    of legislation that he might want to push through. Secondly, any law he
    seeks to overturn is going to cost him political capital, perhaps capital
    that he'd rather expend on higher priority issues. As you may have noticed,
    there is a pretty vociferous environmental lobby in the US that is behind
    much of our current public land use regulations. Any effort to change those
    is going to be met with pretty stiff opposition from all sorts of different
    political groups.

    The President, no who it is, has to pick his fights wisely. Maybe he'll
    tackle the issue, but it will be one of bigger principle than just MTB
    access. Presidents tend to sponsor legislation in broader terms. Think
    about it, what better way for Bush to confirm the criticism that he's a
    political lightweight than to preach about mountain bike trail access.

    Just my $.02

    Tom

  6. Paladin said:

    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=78882

    Knew there was another reason to like this guy....

    CDB

    Independent of the political stuff, I love this quote

    "He's obsessed with it," McKinnon said. "He now likes to do nothing but
    work out on his bike, and he does it with a frenzy that is reserved for
    people like Lance Armstrong."

    From the view of a typical beltway resident, I suppose it appears that
    Bush and Armstrong have the same fervor for riding, that is not how I
    see it from Durango.

    --
    Craig Brossman, Durango Colorado
    remove "mydebt" to reply

  7. "Ride-A-Lot" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Paladin said:

    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=78882

    Knew there was another reason to like this guy....

    CDB

    If he was such a friend to MTB, then he'd do away with the Wilderness

    Okay, MV jr.

  8. cc said:

    "Ride-A-Lot" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Paladin said:

    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=78882

    Knew there was another reason to like this guy....

    CDB

    If he was such a friend to MTB, then he'd do away with the Wilderness

    Okay, MV jr.

    Gee, you know how to quote out of context. I'm glad your Stanford
    education has taught you something. Now go and play outside, little boy.

    --
    o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
    www.schnauzers.ws

  9. Ride-A-Lot said:

    Stanford education

    Now there's a contradiction in terms.

    JD

  10. JD said:
    Ride-A-Lot said:

    Stanford education

    Now there's a contradiction in terms.

    JD

    WebTV users are the trailer trash of internet community.

  11. Quoted message said:
    JD said:
    Ride-A-Lot said:

    Stanford education

    Now there's a contradiction in terms.

    JD

    WebTV users are the trailer trash of internet community.

    Spoken like a true anonymous hero.

  12. Quoted message said:
    JD said:
    Ride-A-Lot said:

    Stanford education

    Now there's a contradiction in terms.

    JD

    WebTV users are the trailer trash of internet community.

    This, coming from another rocket scientist who can't read a message
    header. HAHAHA!!!

    JD

  13. S o r n i <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    JD said:

    Ride-A-Lot wrote:
    > Stanford education

    Now there's a contradiction in terms.

    JD

    WebTV users are the trailer trash of internet community.

    Spoken like a true anonymous hero.

    BBWWAAHHAAA!!!

    Your dad is spinning

  14. Bob R said:

    S o r n i <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    JD wrote:
    > Ride-A-Lot wrote:
    >> Stanford education
    >
    >
    > Now there's a contradiction in terms.
    >
    > JD

    WebTV users are the trailer trash of internet community.

    Spoken like a true anonymous hero.

    BBWWAAHHAAA!!!

    Bob's laughing because he admitted to sniffing my [censored]!

  15. Bob R said:

    S o r n i <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Spoken like a true anonymous hero.

    Quoted message said:

    BBWWAAHHAAA!!!

    What's your real name and where do you live, "Bob"?

    Quoted message said:

    Your dad is spinning

    That's the closest thing to bike-related content you've come up with in
    years.

    [censored] Rotgut's Rut: get pathetic paycheck on Friday, buy booze, end up in
    jail, get out on Monday morning, start posting hate-filled [censored] on Usenet in
    vain attempt to feel better about poor excuse for a life. Somehow make it
    to Friday, get pathetic paycheck, buy booze, proposition adolescent boy (if
    no one younger available), go to jail, get out on Monday, post sad [censored] on
    'net, get thru to Friday, buy booze.............

    Buck up, "Bob" -- Friday's only a few days away.

  16. S o r n i said:
    Bob R said:

    S o r n i <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Spoken like a true anonymous hero.

    Quoted message said:

    BBWWAAHHAAA!!!

    What's your real name and where do you live, "Bob"?

    Quoted message said:

    Your dad is spinning

    That's the closest thing to bike-related content you've come up with


    in

    Quoted message said:

    years.

    [censored] Rotgut's Rut: get pathetic paycheck on Friday, buy booze, end


    up in

    Quoted message said:

    jail, get out on Monday morning, start posting hate-filled [censored] on


    Usenet in

    Quoted message said:

    vain attempt to feel better about poor excuse for a life. Somehow


    make it

    Quoted message said:

    to Friday, get pathetic paycheck, buy booze, proposition adolescent


    boy (if

    Quoted message said:

    no one younger available), go to jail, get out on Monday, post sad


    [censored] on

    Quoted message said:

    'net, get thru to Friday, buy booze.............

    Buck up, "Bob" -- Friday's only a few days away.

    Fluffer's don't recieve a check, they just swallow their pay.

  17. S o r n i <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    [censored] Rotgut's Rut: get pathetic paycheck on Friday, buy booze, end up in
    jail, get out on Monday morning, start posting hate-filled [censored] on Usenet


    in

    Quoted message said:

    vain attempt to feel better about poor excuse for a life. Somehow make it
    to Friday, get pathetic paycheck, buy booze, proposition adolescent boy


    (if

    Quoted message said:

    no one younger available), go to jail, get out on Monday, post sad [censored] on
    'net, get thru to Friday, buy booze.............

    Buck up, "Bob" -- Friday's only a few days away.

    Billy:

    That routine seems to be familiar to you. Is that how you ruined both your
    marriages? Too limp diicked from boozing to produce a child.

    Cagrin indeed

  18. S o r n i <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    What's your real name and where do you live, "Bob"?

    Been posted here years ago

  19. What is the other reaon?

    This nearly convinces me to take up another sport.

    "Paladin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=78882

    Knew there was another reason to like this guy....

    CDB

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