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  1. I enjoy making a curry, but several people I know who will be sharing the
    meal don't like it too hot.

    So what I want to do is make some fairly mild curries and then have
    something that will enable people to make it hotter (i.e. add some form of
    chillie) at the table, if they want to make it hotter.

    I know some people who are keen to make authentic curries always go for
    fresh chillies, but being a novice this is unknown territory for me; and for
    myself I always stick with some chillie powder which I am more familiar with
    (no nasty very hot surprises).

    Since I want to make an effort to get a good meal, would anyone advise me on
    how I could make something as an additional sauce that guests could just
    stir into the curry to make it hotter, if that's what they wanted?
    Thanks.

  2. JWBH said:

    I enjoy making a curry, but several people I know who will be sharing the
    meal don't like it too hot.


    ...snip..

    Quoted message said:


    Since I want to make an effort to get a good meal, would anyone advise me on
    how I could make something as an additional sauce that guests could just
    stir into the curry to make it hotter, if that's what they wanted?
    Thanks.

    I do this in a number of ways:

    1) I make chilli sambal, this is essentially ground chillis and other
    flavourings (onion, blacan, sugar, salt vinegar, etc) fried to a thick
    paste in oil. It will keep for ages and goes in curries and spicy
    soups like laksa. The sambal fancier will eat this on bread or
    biscuits as an aperitif. You can buy some commercial ones (sambal
    oerlik, sambal badjak) but often they are uninteresting being little
    but chillis and vinegar/salt. I have recipes if you are interested.

    2) Serve hot pickles, in contrast the commercial variety are often
    quite good. Hot lime pickle and sweet mango pickle are popular.
    There are less hot varieties that may be attractive to the less chilli
    tolerant.

    3) For the double-dyed heat freaks a small bowl of chopped fresh
    chilli.

    Chilli powder alone is not traditional and would not work very well
    IMO.

    David

  3. JWBH said:

    Since I want to make an effort to get a good meal, would anyone
    advise me on how I could make something as an additional sauce that
    guests could just stir into the curry to make it hotter, if that's
    what they wanted?

    Use your powdered chilies or whole chilies, making sure they're dried: put
    them in a vial with some olive oil and let 2 weeks pass, shaking the vial
    some times a day. In a couple of weeks the oil should start to be noticeably
    hot and it is good on almost everything, from pasta dishes to pizza to
    various meats, etc.
    An option is to put some garlic, also, it's got to be dry as the chilies and
    should be removed after one week, since it could start developing a foul
    smell one wouldn't like in a flavored oil.
    --
    Vilco
    Think pink, drink rose'

  4. "Vilco" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    JWBH said:

    Since I want to make an effort to get a good meal, would anyone
    advise me on how I could make something as an additional sauce that
    guests could just stir into the curry to make it hotter, if that's
    what they wanted?

    Use your powdered chilies or whole chilies, making sure they're dried: put
    them in a vial with some olive oil and let 2 weeks pass, shaking the vial
    some times a day. In a couple of weeks the oil should start to be
    noticeably hot and it is good on almost everything, from pasta dishes to
    pizza to various meats, etc.
    An option is to put some garlic, also, it's got to be dry as the chilies
    and should be removed after one week, since it could start developing a
    foul smell one wouldn't like in a flavored oil.
    Vilco

    Thanks to all. with the chillied oil method above, i've come across dried
    chillies obviously, but can you get dried garlic cloves? (i've never seen
    them in London) or are you talking about ordinary garlic just not being
    wet? would garlic powder be alright please?

  5. JWBH said:

    Thanks to all. with the chillied oil method above, i've come across
    dried chillies obviously, but can you get dried garlic cloves? (i've
    never seen them in London) or are you talking about ordinary garlic
    just not being wet? would garlic powder be alright please?

    I never tried garlic powder but it should be OK, as long as it's just minced
    dried garlic. With dried garlic I meant the peeled cloves after they've
    spent some days out in the summer sun.
    --
    Vilco
    Think pink, drink rose'

  6. Vilco said:
    JWBH said:

    Thanks to all. with the chillied oil method above, i've come across
    dried chillies obviously, but can you get dried garlic cloves? (i've
    never seen them in London) or are you talking about ordinary garlic
    just not being wet? would garlic powder be alright please?

    I never tried garlic powder but it should be OK, as long as it's just minced
    dried garlic. With dried garlic I meant the peeled cloves after they've
    spent some days out in the summer sun.

    I really disagree. I find dried garlic awful and since it is often
    dried using some kind of stabilizer it has both chemicals and a bad
    taste. In some seasoned salts there's enough other stuff to make it
    less discernible, but I won't use it where garlic is needed. What's so
    hard about mincing a bit of garlic and putting it into a tiny dish?

    --
    Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

  7. Giusi said:
    Quoted message said:

    I never tried garlic powder but it should be OK, as long as it's
    just minced dried garlic. With dried garlic I meant the peeled
    cloves after they've spent some days out in the summer sun.

    Quoted message said:

    I really disagree. I find dried garlic awful and since it is often
    dried using some kind of stabilizer it has both chemicals and a bad
    taste.

    You're not dis-agreeing, read better the line "as long as it's just minced
    dried garlic".
    If it contains chemicals and/or tastes/smells different from garlic it's out
    of my field.

    Quoted message said:

    In some seasoned salts there's enough other stuff to make it
    less discernible, but I won't use it where garlic is needed.

    Seasoned salt?

    Quoted message said:

    What's so hard about mincing a bit of garlic and putting it into a tiny
    dish?

    The time to let it dry: here in Italy it takes few days, somewhere else it
    could take very long time, and also here the last weeks have been cold and
    humid: probably it would have required weeks to dry well some garlic.
    --
    Vilco
    Think pink, drink rose'

  8. Vilco said:
    Giusi said:
    Quoted message said:

    I never tried garlic powder but it should be OK, as long as it's
    just minced dried garlic. With dried garlic I meant the peeled
    cloves after they've spent some days out in the summer sun.

    Quoted message said:

    I really disagree. I find dried garlic awful and since it is often
    dried using some kind of stabilizer it has both chemicals and a bad
    taste.

    You're not dis-agreeing, read better the line "as long as it's just minced
    dried garlic".
    If it contains chemicals and/or tastes/smells different from garlic it's out
    of my field.

    Quoted message said:

    In some seasoned salts there's enough other stuff to make it
    less discernible, but I won't use it where garlic is needed.

    Seasoned salt?

    Quoted message said:

    What's so hard about mincing a bit of garlic and putting it into a tiny
    dish?

    The time to let it dry: here in Italy it takes few days, somewhere else it
    could take very long time, and also here the last weeks have been cold and
    humid: probably it would have required weeks to dry well some garlic.

    Why does it have to be dry? Why not fresh?

    I can hardly dry my laundry in Umbria lately. Anyway, I suspect the
    poster meant to go buy dried garlic or powder in a grocery store.

    Just as in the EU, some things are not so clear from a label. It may
    say some incomprehensible word and then "for freshness" or as here,
    maybe be defined as an acceptable EU thing and just have a number.

    I don't know anyone who dries their garlic here. Too much opportunity
    for muffa in the "green heart of Italy."

    I admit to occasionally using "Salarom" because as those mixtures go it
    is tasty and for a single serving it doesn't feel worth mixing up spices
    from scratch.

    --
    Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

  9. In article <[email hidden]>, blue.star777
    @REMOOOOVEvirgin.net says...

    Quoted message said:

    I enjoy making a curry, but several people I know who will be sharing the
    meal don't like it too hot.

    So what I want to do is make some fairly mild curries and then have
    something that will enable people to make it hotter (i.e. add some form of
    chillie) at the table, if they want to make it hotter.

    I know some people who are keen to make authentic curries always go for
    fresh chillies, but being a novice this is unknown territory for me; and for
    myself I always stick with some chillie powder which I am more familiar with
    (no nasty very hot surprises).

    Since I want to make an effort to get a good meal, would anyone advise me on
    how I could make something as an additional sauce that guests could just
    stir into the curry to make it hotter, if that's what they wanted?
    Thanks.

    You can add hotness in various ways, as other posters have responded,
    but it will not be the same. A good curry has the hotness cooked into
    it, resulting in a different and superior taste compared with just
    adding some hotness at the table.

    --
    Peter Aitken

  10. Giusi said:
    Quoted message said:

    The time to let it dry: here in Italy it takes few days, somewhere
    else it could take very long time, and also here the last weeks have
    been cold and humid: probably it would have required weeks to dry
    well some garlic.

    Quoted message said:

    Why does it have to be dry? Why not fresh?

    The only times I had bad smelling oil, it was when I used fresh garlic. With
    dried cloves I never had a problem.

    Quoted message said:

    Just as in the EU, some things are not so clear from a label. It may
    say some incomprehensible word and then "for freshness" or as here,
    maybe be defined as an acceptable EU thing and just have a number.

    Then it wouldn't be "just minced dried garlic".

    Quoted message said:

    I don't know anyone who dries their garlic here. Too much opportunity
    for muffa in the "green heart of Italy."

    BTW, I dry garlic only to make flavored oil, otherwise it's always fresh, or
    semi fresh after a long stay on the nail in the wall.

    Quoted message said:

    I admit to occasionally using "Salarom" because as those mixtures go
    it is tasty and for a single serving it doesn't feel worth mixing up
    spices from scratch.

    I once used it often, Salarom or Ariosto, then I started to mix my own
    spices and never got back 😉
    --
    Vilco
    Think pink, drink rose'

  11. Vilco said:


    Quoted message said:

    I admit to occasionally using "Salarom" because as those mixtures go
    it is tasty and for a single serving it doesn't feel worth mixing up
    spices from scratch.

    I once used it often, Salarom or Ariosto, then I started to mix my own
    spices and never got back 😉

    You are a better man indeed than I.

    --
    Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

  12. JWBH said:

    Since I want to make an effort to get a good meal, would anyone advise me on
    how I could make something as an additional sauce that guests could just
    stir into the curry to make it hotter, if that's what they wanted?

    Another option to sambals are chutneys. These are typically fruit or
    veggie and chile based sauces, often sweet and hot, that are great as an
    enhancement. One of my faves is the dead simple mint chutney. Take
    some fresh onions, cilantro, mint, and jalpeno or serrano chiles and
    blend/puree them together. It's a bright green bomb that is a real
    surprise to those unfamiliar with this fiery mint combination.

    nb

  13. JWBH said:


    I enjoy making a curry, but several people I know who will be sharing the
    meal don't like it too hot.

    That is pretty vague. When some people say they don't like things too hot
    it means they don't like hot things at all.

  14. Dave Smith said:
    JWBH said:

    I enjoy making a curry, but several people I know who will be sharing the
    meal don't like it too hot.

    That is pretty vague. When some people say they don't like things too hot
    it means they don't like hot things at all.

    And some people mistakenly think that the use of a variety of spices
    means foods will be hot.

  15. "Vilco" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Giusi said:
    Quoted message said:

    I never tried garlic powder but it should be OK, as long as it's
    just minced dried garlic. With dried garlic I meant the peeled
    cloves after they've spent some days out in the summer sun.

    Quoted message said:

    I really disagree. I find dried garlic awful and since it is often
    dried using some kind of stabilizer it has both chemicals and a bad
    taste.

    You're not dis-agreeing, read better the line "as long as it's just minced
    dried garlic".
    If it contains chemicals and/or tastes/smells different from garlic it's
    out of my field.

    Quoted message said:

    In some seasoned salts there's enough other stuff to make it
    less discernible, but I won't use it where garlic is needed.

    Seasoned salt?

    Quoted message said:

    What's so hard about mincing a bit of garlic and putting it into a tiny
    dish?

    The time to let it dry: here in Italy it takes few days, somewhere else it
    could take very long time, and also here the last weeks have been cold and
    humid: probably it would have required weeks to dry well some garlic.
    Vilco

    I really like the idea of a 'standby' hot oil i can keep and use anytime.
    since i dont have 'dried' garlic i'm down to using powdered garlic. since
    its a powder, i guess i wont be able to fish it out of the oil succesfully
    after a week and i'm wondering if it will go bad, like mentioned before with
    dried garlic?

  16. JWBH said:

    I enjoy making a curry, but several people I know who will be sharing the
    meal don't like it too hot.

    So what I want to do is make some fairly mild curries and then have
    something that will enable people to make it hotter (i.e. add some form of
    chillie) at the table, if they want to make it hotter.

    I know some people who are keen to make authentic curries always go for
    fresh chillies, but being a novice this is unknown territory for me; and for
    myself I always stick with some chillie powder which I am more familiar with
    (no nasty very hot surprises).

    Since I want to make an effort to get a good meal, would anyone advise me on
    how I could make something as an additional sauce that guests could just
    stir into the curry to make it hotter, if that's what they wanted?
    Thanks.

    As as curry addict i dont think your going about this the right way,
    imo, trying to heat up a curry without any simmering will probly
    overwhelm the flavours with the heat, for which, cayenne would probly work.

    I would suggest you purchase a Japanese product called "Golden Curry"
    for your friends who dont want too hot a curry, make a separate sauce
    for them, it is a "just add water" curry paste and quite good for a
    commercial product, but it is an Asian style curry rather than a Indian
    curry. Golden curry is sold in mild, medium and hot versions, but the
    "hot" is quite mild IMO.
    --
    JL

  17. In article <[email hidden]>,

    JWBH said:

    I enjoy making a curry, but several people I know who will be sharing the
    meal don't like it too hot.

    So what I want to do is make some fairly mild curries and then have
    something that will enable people to make it hotter (i.e. add some form of
    chillie) at the table, if they want to make it hotter.

    I know some people who are keen to make authentic curries always go for
    fresh chillies, but being a novice this is unknown territory for me; and for
    myself I always stick with some chillie powder which I am more familiar with
    (no nasty very hot surprises).

    Since I want to make an effort to get a good meal, would anyone advise me on
    how I could make something as an additional sauce that guests could just
    stir into the curry to make it hotter, if that's what they wanted?
    Thanks.

    I suggest making a very hot curry that people can use to heat up the
    milder curry or eat on its own. Serve both and let the guests taste
    each and decide how they want to mix it if at all.

  18. JWBH said:

    I enjoy making a curry, but several people I know who will be sharing the
    meal don't like it too hot.

    So what I want to do is make some fairly mild curries and then have
    something that will enable people to make it hotter (i.e. add some form of
    chillie) at the table, if they want to make it hotter.

    I know some people who are keen to make authentic curries always go for
    fresh chillies, but being a novice this is unknown territory for me; and for
    myself I always stick with some chillie powder which I am more familiar with
    (no nasty very hot surprises).

    Since I want to make an effort to get a good meal, would anyone advise me on
    how I could make something as an additional sauce that guests could just
    stir into the curry to make it hotter, if that's what they wanted?
    Thanks.

    Why don't you make a hot curry and a mild curry? You did say you were
    making "some curries" so there must be room for more than one kind.
    What kind of are you making? Thai, Japanese, Indian? They are all
    different.
    Others have suggested chutneys and hot sauces on the side - good
    ideas, in my opinion.
    I am no expert, but when I have "I don't like it too hot" folks for
    dinner, it usually means what someone else already said " I don't like
    it hot at all" so why make the hot fans suffer? Make something
    everyone can enjoy.

    -Tracy

  19. JWBH said:

    I really like the idea of a 'standby' hot oil i can keep and use
    anytime. since i dont have 'dried' garlic i'm down to using powdered
    garlic. since its a powder, i guess i wont be able to fish it out of
    the oil succesfully after a week and i'm wondering if it will go bad,
    like mentioned before with dried garlic?

    Things can vary much, you know, I myself experienced an oil where the dried
    garlic rested for some months without giving any bad smell, and others where
    the garlica taste became dominant and, after some months, became a bad
    smell. Why don't you try to remove the powder with some small kind of sieve?
    Maybe a tea filter could work, or even a simple piece of fabric.
    --
    Vilco
    Think pink, drink rose'

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