Guess who's back?

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I forget, did he EVER confess, or did he just DENY DENY DENY?

Duped

http://www.wral.com/sports/9704237/detail.html

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I forget, did he EVER confess, or did he just DENY DENY DENY?

Duped

Dumbass,

http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/9497.0.html

Bob Schwartz

in message <[email hidden]>, Bob

Schwartz (') said:

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I forget, did he EVER confess, or did he just DENY DENY DENY?

Dumbass,

http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/9497.0.html

Good for him. That sort of thing takes courage. And good to see he's come
back to racing.

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Simon Brooke said:

in message <[email hidden]>, Bob

Schwartz (') said:

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I forget, did he EVER confess, or did he just DENY DENY DENY?

Dumbass,

http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/9497.0.html

Good for him. That sort of thing takes courage. And good to see he's come
back to racing.

--
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What'd he do with the time off?

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Simon Brooke said:

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Schwartz (') said:

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>
> I forget, did he EVER confess, or did he just DENY DENY DENY?

Dumbass,

http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/9497.0.html

Good for him. That sort of thing takes courage. And good to see he's come
back to racing.

--
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What'd he do with the time off?

more epo?

Andre said:

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Simon Brooke said:

in message <[email hidden]>, Bob
Schwartz ([email hidden]'😉 wrote:

> [email hidden] wrote:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2006/aug06/USPROcrit06/index.php?id=/photos/2006/aug06/USPROcrit06/USPROcrit061/Downers2006-23
>> I forget, did he EVER confess, or did he just DENY DENY DENY?
> Dumbass,
>
> http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/9497.0.html
Good for him. That sort of thing takes courage. And good to see he's come
back to racing.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

What'd he do with the time off?

more epo?

It did take courage. This sort of thing reaches into every corner
of your life and turns it upside down. No one subjected to it could
ever take it lightly.

Bob Schwartz

Bob Schwartz said:

Andre said:

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Simon Brooke wrote:
> in message <[email hidden]>, Bob
> Schwartz ([email hidden]'😉 wrote:
>
>> [email hidden] wrote:
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2006/aug06/USPROcrit06/index.php?id=/photos/2006/aug06/USPROcrit06/USPROcrit061/Downers2006-23
>>> I forget, did he EVER confess, or did he just DENY DENY DENY?
>> Dumbass,
>>
>> http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/9497.0.html
> Good for him. That sort of thing takes courage. And good to see he's come
> back to racing.
>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

What'd he do with the time off?

more epo?

It did take courage. This sort of thing reaches into every corner
of your life and turns it upside down. No one subjected to it could
ever take it lightly.

Bob Schwartz

Screw you, Bob. courage, smourage. He wrote that letter TWO YEARS
AFTER getting busted. What a weasel. Screwed some teammates of points,
money, etc..... I know.

Quoted message said:

Screw you, Bob. courage, smourage. He wrote that letter TWO YEARS
AFTER getting busted. What a weasel. Screwed some teammates of points,
money, etc..... I know.

You're an idiot.

Bike racers screw themselves out of money by their own choice of
career.

But it's easy to blame someone else. "Blame" the other racer for
"cheating" you out of a few hundred bucks while you cost yourself tens
of thousands every year due to your career choice.

If you choose bike racing as a career, never, ever complain about
money. You did it to yourself.

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

On 24 Aug 2006 21:43:44 -0700, "Kurgan Gringioni" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Screw you, Bob. courage, smourage. He wrote that letter TWO YEARS
AFTER getting busted. What a weasel. Screwed some teammates of points,
money, etc..... I know.

You're an idiot.

Bike racers screw themselves out of money by their own choice of
career.

But it's easy to blame someone else. "Blame" the other racer for
"cheating" you out of a few hundred bucks while you cost yourself tens
of thousands every year due to your career choice.

If you choose bike racing as a career, never, ever complain about
money. You did it to yourself.

Geez, sounds as bad as playing jazz.

Ron

Kurgan Gringioni said:

Quoted message said:

Screw you, Bob. courage, smourage. He wrote that letter TWO YEARS
AFTER getting busted. What a weasel. Screwed some teammates of points,
money, etc..... I know.

You're an idiot.

Bike racers screw themselves out of money by their own choice of
career.

But it's easy to blame someone else. "Blame" the other racer for
"cheating" you out of a few hundred bucks while you cost yourself tens
of thousands every year due to your career choice.

If you choose bike racing as a career, never, ever complain about
money. You did it to yourself.

Exactly. Because Bergman did what he did, somewhere there is a guy
that had to take an easier job that paid more. As injustice goes,
this is pretty minor. I'm not excusing what he did but really, I
have much more important things to be outraged about.

Bob Schwartz

RonSonic said:

Quoted message said:

You're an idiot.

Bike racers screw themselves out of money by their own choice of
career.

But it's easy to blame someone else. "Blame" the other racer for
"cheating" you out of a few hundred bucks while you cost yourself tens
of thousands every year due to your career choice.

If you choose bike racing as a career, never, ever complain about
money. You did it to yourself.

Geez, sounds as bad as playing jazz.

Dumbass -

Exactly.

Which is why I only did piano gigs solo and never started a band. And,
most importantly, never complained about lack of money.

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

Simon Brooke said:

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Schwartz (') said:

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I forget, did he EVER confess, or did he just DENY DENY DENY?

Dumbass,

http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/9497.0.html

Good for him. That sort of thing takes courage. And good to see he's come
back to racing.

Did any ask him to fully fess up. Give names and places. Lay it out
in full detail?

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Simon Brooke said:

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Schwartz (') said:

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I forget, did he EVER confess, or did he just DENY DENY DENY?

Dumbass,

http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/9497.0.html

Good for him. That sort of thing takes courage. And good to see he's come
back to racing.

Did anyone ask him to fully fess up? Give names and places? Lay it
out his doping full detail so this his enablers can be nailed too?

Or, are we all just pretending to try to stop doping?

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Kurgan Gringioni said:

Quoted message said:

Screw you, Bob. courage, smourage. He wrote that letter TWO YEARS
AFTER getting busted. What a weasel. Screwed some teammates of points,
money, etc..... I know.

You're an idiot.

Bike racers screw themselves out of money by their own choice of
career.

But it's easy to blame someone else. "Blame" the other racer for
"cheating" you out of a few hundred bucks while you cost yourself tens
of thousands every year due to your career choice.

If you choose bike racing as a career, never, ever complain about
money. You did it to yourself.

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

Well said, dumbass.

Dumbass said:

Simon Brooke said:

in message <[email hidden]>, Bob

Schwartz (') said:

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>
> I forget, did he EVER confess, or did he just DENY DENY DENY?

Dumbass,

http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/9497.0.html

Good for him. That sort of thing takes courage. And good to see he's come
back to racing.

Did anyone ask him to fully fess up? Give names and places? Lay it
out his doping full detail so this his enablers can be nailed too?

Or, are we all just pretending to try to stop doping?

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Dumbass dumbass,

Everyone knows the pros just go down to TJ to buy their EPO. No one
helps them. ;-)

Dumbass said:

Did any ask him to fully fess up. Give names and places. Lay it out
in full detail?

That's what Decanio did. How'd it work out for him?

Bob Schwartz

RonSonic said:

Kurgan Gringioni said:

If you choose bike racing as a career, never, ever complain about
money. You did it to yourself.

Geez, sounds as bad as playing jazz.

At least in jazz, the drugs give you a better buzz -
but they are more habit-forming.

What's the jazz equivalent of a Masters Fattie? Playing
in a bad wedding band long past the point where you
should have got a day job and just jammed with your
friends on the weekend for fun (the jazz equivalent of
the Saturday Ride)?

Ben

Bob Schwartz said:

Dumbass said:

Did any ask him to fully fess up. Give names and places. Lay it out
in full detail?

That's what Decanio did. How'd it work out for him?

Bob Schwartz

Come to think of it, I can't recall Decanio blaming anyone but himself.
Where he get the smack from? Who was his supplier?

Quoted message said:

RonSonic said:

Kurgan Gringioni said:

If you choose bike racing as a career, never, ever complain about
money. You did it to yourself.

Geez, sounds as bad as playing jazz.

At least in jazz, the drugs give you a better buzz -
but they are more habit-forming.

What's the jazz equivalent of a Masters Fattie? Playing
in a bad wedding band long past the point where you
should have got a day job and just jammed with your
friends on the weekend for fun (the jazz equivalent of
the Saturday Ride)?

Dumbass -

I don't know if that qualifies because any member of a band that plays
out has increased opportunities to get laid.

thanks,

K. Gringioni.