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  1. On TV, they're running infomercials on HGH, human growth hormones, ... which I've been ignoring.

    However, last night on PBS, they had a dermatologist (Perriconne ?, book: The Wrinkle Cure), who is
    interested in studying nutrition & aging issues.

    He said that a doctor (Hudman?) gave injections of Growth Hormones to healthy older men in a
    research study.

    For the first six months, the men got healthier, basically regressed in age (physically), etc.

    However, when the study was continued past six months, bad things happened. So, GH is Not
    recommended.

    Dr. Periconne said that the body produces Growth Hormones at night while you sleep, but only if
    sugar is not present, that is, if you haven't consumed sugar before bedtime. And that this type
    of growth hormone, is good for you.

    Another reason to avoid sugar.

    Susan, Su_Texas my opinions

  2. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On TV, they're running infomercials on HGH, human growth hormones, ... which I've been ignoring.

    Good for you. This is one of your more intelegent actions.

    Quoted message said:


    However, last night on PBS, they had a dermatologist (Perriconne ?, book: The Wrinkle Cure), who
    is interested in studying nutrition & aging issues.

    He said that a doctor (Hudman?) gave injections of Growth Hormones to healthy older men in a
    research study.

    For the first six months, the men got healthier, basically regressed in age (physically), etc.

    However, when the study was continued past six months, bad things happened. So, GH is Not
    recommended.

    Dr. Periconne said that the body produces Growth Hormones at night while you sleep, but only if
    sugar is not present, that is, if you haven't consumed sugar before bedtime. And that this
    type of growth hormone, is good for you.

    Another reason to avoid sugar.

    Susan, Su_Texas my opinions

    And how exactly can we do that, other than eat only meat. Or are you suggesting that a meat only
    diet is the way to go?

    --
    "The emperor is naked!"
    "No he isn't, he's merely endorsing a clothing-optional lifestyle!"

    to email me
    Please remove "all your clothes"

    Doug

  3. Doug wrote:

    And how exactly can we do that, other than eat only meat. Or are you suggesting that a meat only
    diet is the way to go?

    =========

    What I think the doctor is saying, is to Not eat too much refined sugar, esp. before bedtime.

    Understand?

    Susan, Su_Texas my opinions

  4. On the PBS show, Dr. Perricone (book: The Wrinkle Cure) said that the best Vitamin C was Ester-C,
    Vitamin C Ester.

    It's supposed to be a combination of Vitamin C & Palm Oil.

    He said that Vitamin C peaks in the blood about two hours after you take it, & is gone in about 4
    hours, ... so he takes it many times during the day. He prefers powdered.

    The benefit of this form of Vit C over others, is that it isn't an acid & isn't irritating to
    the stomach.

    With its being oil (instead of water) based, it's supposed to penetrate & nourish the cells better.

    This form of Vit C is also supposed to be good for the skin, ... whereas regular Vit C can
    burn the skin.

    Susan, Su_Texas my opinions

    PS Yesterday, I bought an 8 oz bottle of this for about $15 at The Granary in Longview. I got the
    powdered form, partly because it's cheaper.

    I also got a bottle of B12 sublingual, 100 tablets for about $3. Cyano- not Methyl-. I figure that
    my body is damaged enough inside from the injuries (not to mention the cancer & cancer treatments),
    that it can't absorb enough B12. I'm also taking a B50 complex.

    I'm trying to put together a daily supplement regimen, to help me more quickly recover from the
    recent severe adverse reaction to Aromasin, ,,, & also from the bad reactions to my taking Arimidex
    & then Femara, over the last 18 months or so.

    I feel very weak & tired, & I have seven dogs whom I must be able to care for.

    I wish that the doctors here in East Texas, would work with us & use their expertise to help us, ...
    when we're working on health related issues such as this, using nutrition & supplements to get
    healthier & stronger.

  5. [email hidden] wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    On the PBS show, Dr. Perricone (book: The Wrinkle Cure) said that the best Vitamin C was Ester-C,
    Vitamin C Ester.

    It's supposed to be a combination of Vitamin C & Palm Oil.


    I reviewed the laboratory data concerning "ester C " and decided that the researchers had failed
    toxicology 101.

    Ester C causes the body to elevate the white blood cells for an extended period of time. The dummies
    evaluating the physiological action of the chemical never realized what that meant.

    What this means is that ester C is toxic.... yes toxic to the body. It is called leucocytosis for
    those who know and understand toxicology.

    I cannot recommend nor do I use any product containing ester C.

    DrC PhD

  6. Corrections: Nicolas Periconne, MD book: The Wrinkle Cure

    Ester C, Vitamin C Ester, ascorbyl palmitate, Vitamin C with palm oil

    Susan, Su_Texas

  7. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Doug wrote:

    And how exactly can we do that, other than eat only meat. Or are you suggesting that a meat only
    diet is the way to go?

    =========

    What I think the doctor is saying, is to Not eat too much refined sugar, esp. before bedtime.

    Understand?

    Susan, Su_Texas my opinions

    OK, that position is far more reasonable. I don't know if it is correct, but not eating refined
    sugar before bed time is do-able wheras avoiding sugar in your diet is not.

    --
    "The emperor is naked!"
    "No he isn't, he's merely endorsing a clothing-optional lifestyle!"

    to email me
    Please remove "all your clothes"

    Doug

  8. [email hidden] (drceephd) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    On the PBS show, Dr. Perricone (book: The Wrinkle Cure) said that the best Vitamin C was Ester-
    C, Vitamin C Ester.

    It's supposed to be a combination of Vitamin C & Palm Oil.


    I reviewed the laboratory data concerning "ester C " and decided that the researchers had failed
    toxicology 101.

    Ester C causes the body to elevate the white blood cells for an extended period of time. The
    dummies evaluating the physiological action of the chemical never realized what that meant.

    What this means is that ester C is toxic.... yes toxic to the body. It is called leucocytosis for
    those who know and understand toxicology.

    I cannot recommend nor do I use any product containing ester C.

    DrC PhD

    ============

    What form of Vitamin C supplement do you recommend?

    Dr. Andrew Weil recommends Calcium Ascorbate.

    Susan, Su_Texas my opinions

    PS Dang! $15 gone.

  9. "drceephd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    On the PBS show, Dr. Perricone (book: The Wrinkle Cure) said that the best Vitamin C was Ester-
    C, Vitamin C Ester.

    It's supposed to be a combination of Vitamin C & Palm Oil.


    I reviewed the laboratory data concerning "ester C " and decided that the researchers had failed
    toxicology 101.

    Ester C causes the body to elevate the white blood cells for an extended period of time. The
    dummies evaluating the physiological action of the chemical never realized what that meant.

    What this means is that ester C is toxic.... yes toxic to the body. It is called leucocytosis for
    those who know and understand toxicology.

    I cannot recommend nor do I use any product containing ester C.

    DrC PhD

    Please remind us again where you got your PhD. And what was it on?

    --
    "The emperor is naked!"
    "No he isn't, he's merely endorsing a clothing-optional lifestyle!"

    to email me
    Please remove "all your clothes"

    Doug

  10. An ad is running on TV, where lawyers are trying to get clients who've taken certain psych drugs (anti-
    anxiety?), & who've developed diabetes.

    There might be a link between some psych drugs & diabetes.

    Susan, Su_Texas my opinions

  11. [email hidden] wrote in news:12152-3FF359A4-74@storefull-
    3193.bay.webtv.net:

    Quoted message said:

    An ad is running on TV, where lawyers are trying to get clients who've taken certain psych drugs
    (anti-anxiety?), & who've developed diabetes.

    There might be a link between some psych drugs & diabetes.

    Specifically, some of the newer anti-psychotics (clozapine, olanzapine, respiridone, and quetiapine)
    seem to increase the risk of developing diabetes. Quite a pity, since the only other anti-psychotic
    drugs can have rather severe side effects.

  12. Eric Bohlman <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] wrote in news:12152-3FF359A4-74@storefull- 3193.bay.webtv.net:

    Quoted message said:

    An ad is running on TV, where lawyers are trying to get clients who've taken certain psych drugs
    (anti-anxiety?), & who've developed diabetes.

    There might be a link between some psych drugs & diabetes.

    Specifically, some of the newer anti-psychotics (clozapine, olanzapine, respiridone, and
    quetiapine) seem to increase the risk of developing diabetes. Quite a pity, since the only other
    anti-psychotic drugs can have rather severe side effects.

    ==========

    I think that one was Risperdol (sp?).

    Most of the doctors I've seen in East Texas, not only refuse to work (to do good testing &
    diagnosis), but also push this type of drugs as hard as possible, ... even when they know for sure,
    that their clients have severe adverse reactions or allergies to them.

    When I saw a pain management doctor in Longview (HB) in 1998, he kept stalling for months in having
    my injuries, concussion, broken arm at shoulder, dislocated hip, etc., tested & diagnosed.

    In fact, he never got around to doing good testing & diagnosis, ... except for an MRI of the neck,
    which he repeatedly refused to give me the results of, ... & an NCV/EMG of the shoulder, the
    results of which he also refused to acknowledge. He sent me for bio-feedback training, which I
    didn't want or need.

    I had many serious injuries (spine injured from top & bottom), & a concussion which made me lose
    consciousness over & over, ... but the doc kept acting determinedly-dumb, & refusing to do the
    testing I'd been promised he would by the orthopedic surgeon (SF).

    Then he said, that in order to qualify for testing, I'd have to try a new pain medicine, Risperdol
    (Risperdal?). When I phoned the pharmacy to check it out, it wasn't a pain medicine. I have severe
    adverse reactions to antidepressants, & the Risperdol might have scrambled my brain forever or
    killed me.

    When I phoned the PM doctor to ask him why he'd do such a bad thing, he said he often did it, that
    it made patients easier to work with, that it made them give up hope. And he laughed about it. He
    had no intention of doing good testing & diagnosis of injuries.

    Basically, these drugs are chemical lobotomies, which the docs are using as weapons.

    I hope that the doctors, who wrongly forced these drugs onto patients, get legally hung by their
    sorry b*tts & b*lls in court. There's nothing worse than a bad doctor, who enjoys doing harm.

    Susan, Su_Texas my opinions

  13. "Doug" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "drceephd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    On the PBS show, Dr. Perricone (book: The Wrinkle Cure) said that the best Vitamin C was Ester-
    C, Vitamin C Ester.

    It's supposed to be a combination of Vitamin C & Palm Oil.


    I reviewed the laboratory data concerning "ester C " and decided that the researchers had failed
    toxicology 101.

    Ester C causes the body to elevate the white blood cells for an extended period of time. The
    dummies evaluating the physiological action of the chemical never realized what that meant.

    What this means is that ester C is toxic.... yes toxic to the body. It is called leucocytosis
    for those who know and understand toxicology.

    I cannot recommend nor do I use any product containing ester C.

    DrC PhD

    Please remind us again where you got your PhD. And what was it on?

    It was a PhD in "cancer research" he said. He didn't say where.

    --Rich

  14. [email hidden] (su-texas, susan) wrote in
    :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Eric Bohlman <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] wrote in news:12152-3FF359A4-74@storefull- 3193.bay.webtv.net:

    Quoted message said:

    An ad is running on TV, where lawyers are trying to get clients who've taken certain psych
    drugs (anti-anxiety?), & who've developed diabetes.

    There might be a link between some psych drugs & diabetes.

    Specifically, some of the newer anti-psychotics (clozapine, olanzapine, respiridone, and
    quetiapine) seem to increase the risk of developing diabetes. Quite a pity, since the only other
    anti-psychotic drugs can have rather severe side effects.

    ==========

    I think that one was Risperdol (sp?).

    Most of the doctors I've seen in East Texas, not only refuse to work (to do good testing &
    diagnosis), but also push this type of drugs as hard as possible, ... even when they know for
    sure, that their clients have severe adverse reactions or allergies to them.

    When I saw a pain management doctor in Longview (HB) in 1998, he kept stalling for months in
    having my injuries, concussion, broken arm at shoulder, dislocated hip, etc., tested & diagnosed.

    In fact, he never got around to doing good testing & diagnosis, ... except for an MRI of the neck,
    which he repeatedly refused to give me the results of, ... & an NCV/EMG of the shoulder, the
    results of which he also refused to acknowledge. He sent me for bio-feedback training, which I
    didn't want or need.

    I had many serious injuries (spine injured from top & bottom), & a concussion which made me lose
    consciousness over & over, ... but the doc kept acting determinedly-dumb, & refusing to do the
    testing I'd been promised he would by the orthopedic surgeon (SF).

    Then he said, that in order to qualify for testing, I'd have to try a new pain medicine, Risperdol
    (Risperdal?). When I phoned the pharmacy to check it out, it wasn't a pain medicine. I have severe
    adverse reactions to antidepressants, & the Risperdol might have scrambled my brain forever or
    killed me.

    When I phoned the PM doctor to ask him why he'd do such a bad thing, he said he often did it, that
    it made patients easier to work with, that it made them give up hope. And he laughed about it. He
    had no intention of doing good testing & diagnosis of injuries.

    Basically, these drugs are chemical lobotomies, which the docs are using as weapons.

    I hope that the doctors, who wrongly forced these drugs onto patients, get legally hung by their
    sorry b*tts & b*lls in court. There's nothing worse than a bad doctor, who enjoys doing harm.

    Susan, Su_Texas my opinions

    I would love to hear the other side of this story. Alas, I doubt that we will ever hear it.

    r

    --
    Nothing beats the bandwidth of a station wagon filled with DLT tapes.

  15. (su-texas said:

    Eric Bohlman <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] wrote in news:12152-3FF359A4-74@storefull- 3193.bay.webtv.net:

    Quoted message said:

    An ad is running on TV, where lawyers are trying to get clients who've taken certain psych
    drugs (anti-anxiety?), & who've developed diabetes.

    There might be a link between some psych drugs & diabetes.

    Specifically, some of the newer anti-psychotics (clozapine, olanzapine, respiridone, and
    quetiapine) seem to increase the risk of developing diabetes. Quite a pity, since the only other
    anti-psychotic drugs can have rather severe side effects.

    ==========

    I think that one was Risperdol (sp?).

    Most of the doctors I've seen in East Texas, not only refuse to work (to do good testing &
    diagnosis), but also push this type of drugs as hard as possible, ... even when they know for sure,
    that their clients have severe adverse reactions or allergies to them.

    When I saw a pain management doctor in Longview (HB) in 1998, he kept stalling for months in having
    my injuries, concussion, broken arm at shoulder, dislocated hip, etc., tested & diagnosed.

    [censored]!

    Quoted message said:

    In fact, he never got around to doing good testing & diagnosis, ... except for an MRI of the neck,
    which he repeatedly refused to give me the results of, ... & an NCV/EMG of the shoulder, the
    results of which he also refused to acknowledge. He sent me for bio-feedback training, which I
    didn't want or need.

    [censored]!

    Quoted message said:

    I had many serious injuries (spine injured from top & bottom), & a concussion which made me lose
    consciousness over & over, ... but the doc kept acting determinedly-dumb, & refusing to do the
    testing I'd been promised he would by the orthopedic surgeon (SF).

    [censored]!

    Quoted message said:

    Then he said, that in order to qualify for testing, I'd have to try a new pain medicine, Risperdol
    (Risperdal?). When I phoned the pharmacy to check it out, it wasn't a pain medicine. I have severe
    adverse reactions to antidepressants, & the Risperdol might have scrambled my brain forever or
    killed me.

    [censored]!

    Quoted message said:

    When I phoned the PM doctor to ask him why he'd do such a bad thing, he said he often did it, that
    it made patients easier to work with, that it made them give up hope. And he laughed about it. He
    had no intention of doing good testing & diagnosis of injuries.

    [censored]!

    Quoted message said:

    Basically, these drugs are chemical lobotomies, which the docs are using as weapons.

    I hope that the doctors, who wrongly forced these drugs onto patients, get legally hung by their
    sorry b*tts & b*lls in court. There's nothing worse than a bad doctor, who enjoys doing harm.

    Susan, Su_Texas my opinions

    You didn't need Risperdal, which is an anti-anxiety drug. What you needed was an anti-psychotic drug
    for your delusions.

    --
    Peter Bowditch
    The Millenium Project ratbags.comrsoles
    The Green Light ratbags.comgreenlight
    and The New Improved Quintessence of the Loon with added Vitamins and C-Q10 ratbags.comloon
    To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

  16. "Rich Shewmaker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Doug" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "drceephd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    > On the PBS show, Dr. Perricone (book: The Wrinkle Cure) said that


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > best Vitamin C was Ester-C, Vitamin C Ester.
    >
    > It's supposed to be a combination of Vitamin C & Palm Oil.
    >
    I reviewed the laboratory data concerning "ester C " and decided that the researchers had
    failed toxicology 101.

    Ester C causes the body to elevate the white blood cells for an extended period of time. The
    dummies evaluating the physiological action of the chemical never realized what that meant.

    What this means is that ester C is toxic.... yes toxic to the body. It is called leucocytosis
    for those who know and understand toxicology.

    I cannot recommend nor do I use any product containing ester C.

    DrC PhD

    Please remind us again where you got your PhD. And what was it on?

    It was a PhD in "cancer research" he said. He didn't say where.

    --Rich


    Just wanted to see if changed over the last few days.

    --
    "The emperor is naked!"
    "No he isn't, he's merely endorsing a clothing-optional lifestyle!"

    to email me
    Please remove "all your clothes"

    Doug

  17. Peter Bowditch said:

    [email hidden] (su-texas, susan) wrote:

    <snip Sue's pack of lies>

    Quoted message said:

    You didn't need Risperdal, which is an anti-anxiety drug. What you needed was an anti-psychotic
    drug for your delusions.

    I forgot to mention this. If you go over to sci.skeptic you will find a poster named Herc (he spells
    it "|-|erc"😉. You will find that you have a lot in common. He is mad too.

    --
    Peter Bowditch
    The Millenium Project ratbags.comrsoles
    The Green Light ratbags.comgreenlight
    and The New Improved Quintessence of the Loon with added Vitamins and C-Q10 ratbags.comloon
    To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

  18. Peter Bowditch <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    (su-texas said:

    Eric Bohlman <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] wrote in news:12152-3FF359A4-74@storefull- 3193.bay.webtv.net:

    > An ad is running on TV, where lawyers are trying to get clients who've taken certain psych
    > drugs (anti-anxiety?), & who've developed diabetes.
    >
    > There might be a link between some psych drugs & diabetes.

    Specifically, some of the newer anti-psychotics (clozapine, olanzapine, respiridone, and
    quetiapine) seem to increase the risk of developing diabetes. Quite a pity, since the only
    other anti-psychotic drugs can have rather severe side effects.

    ==========

    I think that one was Risperdol (sp?).

    Most of the doctors I've seen in East Texas, not only refuse to work (to do good testing &
    diagnosis), but also push this type of drugs as hard as possible, ... even when they know for
    sure, that their clients have severe adverse reactions or allergies to them.

    When I saw a pain management doctor in Longview (HB) in 1998, he kept stalling for months in
    having my injuries, concussion, broken arm at shoulder, dislocated hip, etc., tested & diagnosed.

    [censored]!

    Quoted message said:

    In fact, he never got around to doing good testing & diagnosis, ... except for an MRI of the
    neck, which he repeatedly refused to give me the results of, ... & an NCV/EMG of the shoulder,
    the results of which he also refused to acknowledge. He sent me for bio-feedback training, which
    I didn't want or need.

    [censored]!

    Quoted message said:

    I had many serious injuries (spine injured from top & bottom), & a concussion which made me lose
    consciousness over & over, ... but the doc kept acting determinedly-dumb, & refusing to do the
    testing I'd been promised he would by the orthopedic surgeon (SF).

    [censored]!

    Quoted message said:

    Then he said, that in order to qualify for testing, I'd have to try a new pain medicine,
    Risperdol (Risperdal?). When I phoned the pharmacy to check it out, it wasn't a pain medicine. I
    have severe adverse reactions to antidepressants, & the Risperdol might have scrambled my brain
    forever or killed me.

    [censored]!

    Quoted message said:

    When I phoned the PM doctor to ask him why he'd do such a bad thing, he said he often did it,
    that it made patients easier to work with, that it made them give up hope. And he laughed about
    it. He had no intention of doing good testing & diagnosis of injuries.

    [censored]!

    Quoted message said:

    Basically, these drugs are chemical lobotomies, which the docs are using as weapons.

    I hope that the doctors, who wrongly forced these drugs onto patients, get legally hung by their
    sorry b*tts & b*lls in court. There's nothing worse than a bad doctor, who enjoys doing harm.

    Susan, Su_Texas my opinions

    You didn't need Risperdal, which is an anti-anxiety drug. What you needed was an anti-psychotic
    drug for your delusions.

    =============

    "The truth never changes, but the truth changes everything."

    If you're not savvy or strong enough, to recognize or deal with the truth & reality, then that's
    your problem.

    Your reaction to the cr*p-care-type medical-industry in Texas, & your need to curse at, negatively-
    label, & try to further harm its victims, when they speak out, ask for help & ask for positive
    changes, ... does show your character & mindset. It defines who & what you are.

    You've nothing to be proud of here. Nothing.

    Susan, Su_Texas my opinions

  19. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (su-texas said:

    Peter Bowditch <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (su-texas, susan) wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Basically, these drugs are chemical lobotomies, which the docs are using as weapons.

    I hope that the doctors, who wrongly forced these drugs onto patients, get legally hung by
    their sorry b*tts & b*lls in court. There's nothing worse than a bad doctor, who enjoys doing
    harm.

    Susan, Su_Texas my opinions

    You didn't need Risperdal, which is an anti-anxiety drug. What you needed was an anti-psychotic
    drug for your delusions.

    "The truth never changes, but the truth changes everything."

    Too bad you seem unable to recognize the truth.

    Quoted message said:

    If you're not savvy or strong enough, to recognize or deal with the truth & reality, then that's
    your problem.

    The irony of your saying this is too delicious.

    [Snip]

    --
    Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
    |
    |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you inconvenience me with questions?"

  20. (su-texas said:

    Peter Bowditch <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    (su-texas said:

    Eric Bohlman <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...
    > [email hidden] wrote in news:12152-3FF359A4-74@storefull- 3193.bay.webtv.net:
    >
    > > An ad is running on TV, where lawyers are trying to get clients who've taken certain psych
    > > drugs (anti-anxiety?), & who've developed diabetes.
    > >
    > > There might be a link between some psych drugs & diabetes.
    >
    > Specifically, some of the newer anti-psychotics (clozapine, olanzapine, respiridone, and
    > quetiapine) seem to increase the risk of developing diabetes. Quite a pity, since the only
    > other anti-psychotic drugs can have rather severe side effects.

    ==========

    I think that one was Risperdol (sp?).

    Most of the doctors I've seen in East Texas, not only refuse to work (to do good testing &
    diagnosis), but also push this type of drugs as hard as possible, ... even when they know for
    sure, that their clients have severe adverse reactions or allergies to them.

    When I saw a pain management doctor in Longview (HB) in 1998, he kept stalling for months in
    having my injuries, concussion, broken arm at shoulder, dislocated hip, etc., tested &
    diagnosed.

    [censored]!

    Quoted message said:

    In fact, he never got around to doing good testing & diagnosis, ... except for an MRI of the
    neck, which he repeatedly refused to give me the results of, ... & an NCV/EMG of the shoulder,
    the results of which he also refused to acknowledge. He sent me for bio-feedback training, which
    I didn't want or need.

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    I had many serious injuries (spine injured from top & bottom), & a concussion which made me lose
    consciousness over & over, ... but the doc kept acting determinedly-dumb, & refusing to do the
    testing I'd been promised he would by the orthopedic surgeon (SF).

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    Then he said, that in order to qualify for testing, I'd have to try a new pain medicine,
    Risperdol (Risperdal?). When I phoned the pharmacy to check it out, it wasn't a pain medicine. I
    have severe adverse reactions to antidepressants, & the Risperdol might have scrambled my brain
    forever or killed me.

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    When I phoned the PM doctor to ask him why he'd do such a bad thing, he said he often did it,
    that it made patients easier to work with, that it made them give up hope. And he laughed about
    it. He had no intention of doing good testing & diagnosis of injuries.

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    Basically, these drugs are chemical lobotomies, which the docs are using as weapons.

    I hope that the doctors, who wrongly forced these drugs onto patients, get legally hung by their
    sorry b*tts & b*lls in court. There's nothing worse than a bad doctor, who enjoys doing harm.

    Susan, Su_Texas my opinions

    You didn't need Risperdal, which is an anti-anxiety drug. What you needed was an anti-psychotic
    drug for your delusions.

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    "The truth never changes, but the truth changes everything."

    If you're not savvy or strong enough, to recognize or deal with the truth & reality, then that's
    your problem.

    Your reaction to the cr*p-care-type medical-industry in Texas, & your need to curse at, negatively-
    label, & try to further harm its victims, when they speak out, ask for help & ask for positive
    changes, ... does show your character & mindset. It defines who & what you are.

    You've nothing to be proud of here. Nothing.

    It is very hypocritical for a liar like you to talk about pride.

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    Susan, Su_Texas my opinions

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