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  1. In said:

    D. C. Sessions wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Dang it, Mark, do you *have* to keep yanking her chain?

    Quoted message said:

    Whose?

    Oh, no, you aren't tricking me /that/ easily!

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  2. Groups Oppose Allowing Silicone Breast Implants

    By Lisa Richwine

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Too little is known about the long-term health
    risks of silicone breast implants for U.S. regulators to consider
    allowing them back on the market, health and consumer groups said on Monday.

    The United States banned silicone implants for most women in 1992 amid a
    controversy over whether they caused chronic diseases, but at least one
    company has applied to sell them again.

    The National Organization for Women (news - web sites), consumer group
    Public Citizen and others want the Food and Drug Administration (news -
    web sites) to delay its review of any applications until longer studies
    are completed.

    [My comment: Collecting more information from long term studies for this
    is an excellent idea.]

    Arguing that many problems do not appear for years after implantation,
    the groups want the FDA to require clinical trials following women for
    at least seven to 10 years, NOW President Kim Gandy said in an
    interview. The agency currently is reviewing about two years' worth of
    data, she said.

    "Two years of data is not going to give you any valid information so
    that women will know what's going into their bodies," Gandy said.

    In the early 1990s, many women alleged silicone implants led to serious
    health problems. But a 1999 Institute of Medicine (news - web sites)
    study found silicone implants did not cause cancer, lupus or other
    chronic disorders, although they can rupture and present other problems.

    Since 1992, silicone implants have been available only through clinical
    trials. Saline-filled implants remained on the market, but are not as
    popular.

    More than 300,000 U.S. women got breast implants last year, according to
    the American Society of Plastic Surgeons.

    Inamed Corp. last December applied for FDA permission to sell silicone
    implants and said many women in clinical trials had benefited from them.

    NOW convened a panel of scientists to evaluate the latest implant data.
    The panel concluded silicone implants' long-term safety had not been
    sufficiently studied.

    One major concern is the effect of silicone gel that leaks from an
    implant to surrounding tissues and lymph nodes.

    "We're still very unsure of the long-term effects on the body," said
    Paul Wooley, one of NOW's panelists and a professor of orthopedic
    surgery, immunology, microbiology and biomedical engineering at Wayne
    State University School of Medicine.

  3. Mark,
    Thanks for posting this. . .It is important to remember that the 1999
    Institute of Medicine "study" finding silicone implants did not cause
    cancer, lupus or other chronic disorders, really wasn't anything more
    than a regurgitation of old studies performed by the manufacturers
    themselves.

    After having access to the documents on the Discovery CDs to breast
    implant litigation, it's quite clear that manufacturer studies were
    clearly biased for making profit, rather than worrying about the
    health issues of women who were to receive them. In some instances
    studies were falsified, stopped when results were showing to be
    disasterous, and out right fraudulent.

    Found among the "discovery" internal manufacturer documents from
    Bristol-Myers Squibb was a 1978 document describing beagle studies
    indicating such adverse reactions as hemorrhage, possible pneumonia of
    the lung, and hyperplasia of lymphoid tissue in the large intestines.
    The president¹s response was "sacrifice dogs ASAP" and "no organs of
    dogs in freezer". One year later, the president responded to a letter
    regarding animal maintenance cost with the note, "I thought we wiped
    out all dogs and had parts send to W.L. [a company vice president]. My
    rec[commendation] - kill dogs; forget organs; just dispose of them."

    Implant history is a long one, beginning well over 40 years ago. Most
    women receiving implants never knew, they had not been approved by the
    FDA, and have continued to receive them under the guise of studies,
    that never seem to end. . .Days, weeks, months, years, decades, semi
    centennials. . .what does it take to run a good study with integrity?

    Myrl

    Mark Probert <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Groups Oppose Allowing Silicone Breast Implants

    By Lisa Richwine

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Too little is known about the long-term health
    risks of silicone breast implants for U.S. regulators to consider
    allowing them back on the market, health and consumer groups said on Monday.

    The United States banned silicone implants for most women in 1992 amid a
    controversy over whether they caused chronic diseases, but at least one
    company has applied to sell them again.

    The National Organization for Women (news - web sites), consumer group
    Public Citizen and others want the Food and Drug Administration (news -
    web sites) to delay its review of any applications until longer studies
    are completed.

    [My comment: Collecting more information from long term studies for this
    is an excellent idea.]

    Arguing that many problems do not appear for years after implantation,
    the groups want the FDA to require clinical trials following women for
    at least seven to 10 years, NOW President Kim Gandy said in an
    interview. The agency currently is reviewing about two years' worth of
    data, she said.

    "Two years of data is not going to give you any valid information so
    that women will know what's going into their bodies," Gandy said.

    In the early 1990s, many women alleged silicone implants led to serious
    health problems. But a 1999 Institute of Medicine (news - web sites)
    study found silicone implants did not cause cancer, lupus or other
    chronic disorders, although they can rupture and present other problems.

    Since 1992, silicone implants have been available only through clinical
    trials. Saline-filled implants remained on the market, but are not as
    popular.

    More than 300,000 U.S. women got breast implants last year, according to
    the American Society of Plastic Surgeons.

    Inamed Corp. last December applied for FDA permission to sell silicone
    implants and said many women in clinical trials had benefited from them.

    NOW convened a panel of scientists to evaluate the latest implant data.
    The panel concluded silicone implants' long-term safety had not been
    sufficiently studied.

    One major concern is the effect of silicone gel that leaks from an
    implant to surrounding tissues and lymph nodes.

    "We're still very unsure of the long-term effects on the body," said
    Paul Wooley, one of NOW's panelists and a professor of orthopedic
    surgery, immunology, microbiology and biomedical engineering at Wayne
    State University School of Medicine.

  4. Peter Bowditch <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Then again, Ilena is somewhat of a fan of Patrick Timothy Bolen,

    I am a fan of medical freedom ... and a foe to those like you and
    Probert and the others in the HealthFraud / Quack Team headed by
    Barrett who harass, sue and maintain character / Life assassination
    campaigns against those who speak out against the funders of ACSH /
    junkscience.com.

    www.BreastImplantAwareness.org

  5. D. C. Sessions said:
    In said:

    D. C. Sessions wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Dang it, Mark, do you *have* to keep yanking her chain?

    Quoted message said:

    Whose?

    Oh, no, you aren't tricking me /that/ easily!

    Aw shucks.

  6. In said:

    OK, so she's nuts, and so is Jan Drew. I really don't understand why
    you people haven't all killfiled Jan. Doing so has improved my life a
    great deal -- I don't get my daily dose of her ever-increasing
    irrationality, her hypocrisy, and her outright craziness.

    Jan actually makes my senior management look rational,
    and unlike them she has no power over me or the people
    I love.

    Think of it as comic relief.

    --
    | Microsoft: "A reputation for releasing inferior software will make |
    | it more difficult for a software vendor to induce customers to pay |
    | for new products or new versions of existing products." |
    end

  7. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Ilena said:

    Peter Bowditch <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Then again, Ilena is somewhat of a fan of Patrick Timothy Bolen,

    I am a fan of medical freedom ... and a foe to those like you and
    Probert and the others in the HealthFraud / Quack Team headed by
    Barrett who harass, sue and maintain character / Life assassination
    campaigns against those who speak out against the funders of ACSH /
    junkscience.com.

    Not to mention a foe to anyone who dares to disagree with you about
    anything. At least you're consistent.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
    were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  8. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Groups Oppose Allowing Silicone Breast Implants
    From: [email hidden] (David Wright)
    Date: 7/22/2003 9:49 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Ilena said:

    Peter Bowditch <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Then again, Ilena is somewhat of a fan of Patrick Timothy Bolen,

    I am a fan of medical freedom ... and a foe to those like you and
    Probert and the others in the HealthFraud / Quack Team headed by
    Barrett who harass, sue and maintain character / Life assassination
    campaigns against those who speak out against the funders of ACSH /
    junkscience.com.

    Not to mention a foe to anyone who dares to disagree with you about
    anything. At least you're consistent.

    Where as David is oh so friendly, sweet and nice to all who diagree with him.

    LOL!!

    Jan

  9. Mark Probert <[email hidden]> posting from yet another of
    his failed law career aliases

    http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/PropagandistProbert.html

  10. In article <[email hidden]>,

    D. C. Sessions said:
    In said:

    Not to mention a foe to anyone who dares to disagree with you about
    anything. At least you're consistent.

    Old New England comment about the evenest-tempered man in town?

    Ayup.

    (For those unfamiliar with this one, it goes something like "He
    was the evenest-tempered man in town -- mad all the time."😉

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
    were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  11. [email hidden] (David Wright)

    Boo hoo, poor Davey whining yet again ... as always ... he is Wronger
    Than Wright ...

    http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgentsFAQ.htm

  12. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Ilena said:

    [email hidden] (David Wright)

    Boo hoo, poor Davey whining yet again ... as always ... he is Wronger
    Than Wright ...

    Go ahead, Iloonie -- give an example of anything in my posting that
    was erroneous. I won't hold my breath waiting for you.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
    were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

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