Greg Needs Eddie's Diet

He's so fat...............
when he goes camping the bears hide their food !

(stolen from Silvio on the Sopranos)

Others please chime in with juvenile fat jokes.

Lou D'Amelio

Lou D'Amelio said:

He's so fat...............
when he goes camping the bears hide their food !

(stolen from Silvio on the Sopranos)

Others please chime in with juvenile fat jokes.

Lou D'Amelio

Can't really put juvenile, fat, and joke together anymore:

http://society.guardian.co.uk/health/news/0,,1758947,00.html?gusrc=rss
And it's not just Americans now, if it ever was. IMO this makes
smoking look like a joke as a health care crisis. Unfortunately it's
not PC to even discuss the idea that it might be a bad thing.
And NO I'm not arguing this again.
Bill C

Actually I agree with you 100 %. I'm a health professional and the
predictions for diabetes rates in our youth, among many other aspects
of the problem, are staggering. Nonetheless, the bear on the wall in
the photo mandated that one-liner.

LD

Lou D'Amelio said:

Actually I agree with you 100 %. I'm a health professional and the
predictions for diabetes rates in our youth, among many other aspects
of the problem, are staggering. Nonetheless, the bear on the wall in
the photo mandated that one-liner.

LD

Smoking finally started disappearing when it became culturally and
socially unacceptable and everyone jumped on board to condemn it and
tell people, especially young people about it's dangers.
We're in total agreement but I was crucified here for actually
suggesting that explaining to children and adults that being obese is
not a good thing. Apparently this would be insulting and damaging to
their self-esteem and therefore should be avoided at all costs, no
matter how many die. So I guess dying of lung cancer is bad, but dying
of all the obesity related diseases is perfectly acceptable.
If you're smart you don't reply to this.
Bill C

"Bill C" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Lou D'Amelio said:

Actually I agree with you 100 %. I'm a health professional and the
predictions for diabetes rates in our youth, among many other aspects
of the problem, are staggering. Nonetheless, the bear on the wall in
the photo mandated that one-liner.

LD

Smoking finally started disappearing when it became culturally and
socially unacceptable and everyone jumped on board to condemn it and
tell people, especially young people about it's dangers.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I though teenage smoking was on the ride. No?

Quoted message said:

We're in total agreement but I was crucified here for actually
suggesting that explaining to children and adults that being obese is
not a good thing. Apparently this would be insulting and damaging to
their self-esteem and therefore should be avoided at all costs, no
matter how many die. So I guess dying of lung cancer is bad, but dying
of all the obesity related diseases is perfectly acceptable.
If you're smart you don't reply to this.
Bill C

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"Bill C" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Lou D'Amelio said:

Actually I agree with you 100 %. I'm a health professional and the
predictions for diabetes rates in our youth, among many other aspects
of the problem, are staggering. Nonetheless, the bear on the wall in
the photo mandated that one-liner.

LD

Smoking finally started disappearing when it became culturally and
socially unacceptable and everyone jumped on board to condemn it and
tell people, especially young people about it's dangers.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I though teenage smoking was on the ride. No?

Make that rise. I did ride with a guy in New Orleans who began every ride
with a smoke for the first mile or so.

In article
<[email hidden]>,

Bill C said:

Lou D'Amelio said:

Actually I agree with you 100 %. I'm a health professional and the
predictions for diabetes rates in our youth, among many other aspects
of the problem, are staggering. Nonetheless, the bear on the wall in
the photo mandated that one-liner.

LD

Smoking finally started disappearing when it became culturally and
socially unacceptable and everyone jumped on board to condemn it and
tell people, especially young people about it's dangers.
We're in total agreement but I was crucified here for actually
suggesting that explaining to children and adults that being obese is
not a good thing. Apparently this would be insulting and damaging to
their self-esteem and therefore should be avoided at all costs, no
matter how many die. So I guess dying of lung cancer is bad, but dying
of all the obesity related diseases is perfectly acceptable.
If you're smart you don't reply to this.

Perhaps, and you can deal as you will with those who
crucified you. Other people said that you were ridiculing
someone for no other reason than being overweight; and you
never adequately addressed their concern.

If I were to crucify folks, it would be parents of
unhealthy children.

--
Michael Press

Michael Press said:

In article
<[email hidden]>,

Bill C said:

Lou D'Amelio said:

Actually I agree with you 100 %. I'm a health professional and the
predictions for diabetes rates in our youth, among many other aspects
of the problem, are staggering. Nonetheless, the bear on the wall in
the photo mandated that one-liner.

LD

Smoking finally started disappearing when it became culturally and
socially unacceptable and everyone jumped on board to condemn it and
tell people, especially young people about it's dangers.
We're in total agreement but I was crucified here for actually
suggesting that explaining to children and adults that being obese is
not a good thing. Apparently this would be insulting and damaging to
their self-esteem and therefore should be avoided at all costs, no
matter how many die. So I guess dying of lung cancer is bad, but dying
of all the obesity related diseases is perfectly acceptable.
If you're smart you don't reply to this.

Perhaps, and you can deal as you will with those who
crucified you. Other people said that you were ridiculing
someone for no other reason than being overweight; and you
never adequately addressed their concern.

If I were to crucify folks, it would be parents of
unhealthy children.

--
Michael Press

Amen! That is as much child abuse as a lot of the things they are
investigating for.
Their concern was, and is impossible to address because they consider
that educating that obesity is a bad thing should not be done because
it's damaging to childrens self esteem.
My argument was that I'd rather deal with the psychological/emotional
issues of a live physically healthy child than all the problems and
life threatening illnesses that come with early and prolonged obesity.
Before we all became touchy feely and so averse to offense people and
children lived through it and continued to produce a fairly reasonable
society. I don't see why that isn't possible now, especially with more
and better counseling available.
The other part of the argument revolved around whether it's
appropriate to take a child and throw them into an event where they, in
most probablility, are going to be unsuccessful, and possibly
spectacularly so.
I said that it's not appropriate, and children should be brought along
at a pace that challenges them, but allows them a fair chance to
succeed, as opposed to just throwing them into the deep end of the
mainstream, and subjecting them to failure and very possibly ridicule.
It started with my saying something along the lines of "Holy [censored]!
That kid doesn't belong there in that race." after seeing a picture
where the kid was attempting to race kids on a bicycle, where weight to
power is huge, that he outweighed by a huge margin.
I stand by the idea that he didn't belong in a major race in that
condition, but apparently it's wrong to suggest to kids that they might
not, YET, be ready for that level of competition.
Needless to say my opinion of the whole thing was, and still is that
it was PC run amuck at it's worst.
I got to live through them shutting down the State Mental Hospital
here, and they basically mainstreamed just about everyone and duumped
the most challenged into halfway houses with a much less structured
environment. The mortality over the next decade due to drug abuse, the
people being unable to cope since they hadn't learned the life skills
they needed to cope at that level, and suicide was impressive.
They meant well and did it for the patients own good though.
Bill C
Oh yeah, now they have decided that they need to build a new 600
million dollar in-patient facility to treat a lot of the kind of people
they killed by throwing in off the deep end.
Bill C

B. Lafferty said:

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Quoted message said:

"Bill C" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Lou D'Amelio wrote:

>Actually I agree with you 100 %. I'm a health professional and the
>predictions for diabetes rates in our youth, among many other aspects
>of the problem, are staggering. Nonetheless, the bear on the wall in
>the photo mandated that one-liner.
>
>LD

Smoking finally started disappearing when it became culturally and
socially unacceptable and everyone jumped on board to condemn it and
tell people, especially young people about it's dangers.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I though teenage smoking was on the ride. No?

Make that rise. I did ride with a guy in New Orleans who began every ride
with a smoke for the first mile or so.

From http://www.lungusa.org/site/pp.asp?c=dvLUK9O0E&b=39871

.... rates have declined by almost 40% since 1997.

Tim Lines said:

B. Lafferty said:

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"Bill C" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>Lou D'Amelio wrote:
>
>>Actually I agree with you 100 %. I'm a health professional and the
>>predictions for diabetes rates in our youth, among many other aspects
>>of the problem, are staggering. Nonetheless, the bear on the wall in
>>the photo mandated that one-liner.
>>
>>LD
>
>Smoking finally started disappearing when it became culturally and
>socially unacceptable and everyone jumped on board to condemn it and
>tell people, especially young people about it's dangers.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I though teenage smoking was on the ride. No?

Make that rise. I did ride with a guy in New Orleans who began every ride
with a smoke for the first mile or so.

From http://www.lungusa.org/site/pp.asp?c=dvLUK9O0E&b=39871

... rates have declined by almost 40% since 1997.

Tim, Just found this:
http://monitoringthefuture.org/pressreleases/05cigpr.pdf
It looks like the decline is really slowing among teens.
Here's the page too:
http://monitoringthefuture.org/data/05data.html
Smoking is about halfway down.
Bill C

Bill C said:

Michael Press said:

In article
<[email hidden]>,

Bill C said:

Lou D'Amelio wrote:
> Actually I agree with you 100 %. I'm a health professional and the
> predictions for diabetes rates in our youth, among many other aspects
> of the problem, are staggering. Nonetheless, the bear on the wall in
> the photo mandated that one-liner.
>
> LD

Smoking finally started disappearing when it became culturally and
socially unacceptable and everyone jumped on board to condemn it and
tell people, especially young people about it's dangers.
We're in total agreement but I was crucified here for actually
suggesting that explaining to children and adults that being obese is
not a good thing. Apparently this would be insulting and damaging to
their self-esteem and therefore should be avoided at all costs, no
matter how many die. So I guess dying of lung cancer is bad, but dying
of all the obesity related diseases is perfectly acceptable.
If you're smart you don't reply to this.

Perhaps, and you can deal as you will with those who
crucified you. Other people said that you were ridiculing
someone for no other reason than being overweight; and you
never adequately addressed their concern.

If I were to crucify folks, it would be parents of
unhealthy children.

--
Michael Press

Amen! That is as much child abuse as a lot of the things they are
investigating for.
Their concern was, and is impossible to address because they consider
that educating that obesity is a bad thing should not be done because
it's damaging to childrens self esteem.
My argument was that I'd rather deal with the psychological/emotional
issues of a live physically healthy child than all the problems and
life threatening illnesses that come with early and prolonged obesity.
Before we all became touchy feely and so averse to offense people and
children lived through it and continued to produce a fairly reasonable
society. I don't see why that isn't possible now, especially with more
and better counseling available.
The other part of the argument revolved around whether it's
appropriate to take a child and throw them into an event where they, in
most probablility, are going to be unsuccessful, and possibly
spectacularly so.
I said that it's not appropriate, and children should be brought along
at a pace that challenges them, but allows them a fair chance to
succeed, as opposed to just throwing them into the deep end of the
mainstream, and subjecting them to failure and very possibly ridicule.
It started with my saying something along the lines of "Holy [censored]!
That kid doesn't belong there in that race." after seeing a picture
where the kid was attempting to race kids on a bicycle, where weight to
power is huge, that he outweighed by a huge margin.
I stand by the idea that he didn't belong in a major race in that
condition, but apparently it's wrong to suggest to kids that they might
not, YET, be ready for that level of competition.
Needless to say my opinion of the whole thing was, and still is that
it was PC run amuck at it's worst.
I got to live through them shutting down the State Mental Hospital
here, and they basically mainstreamed just about everyone and duumped
the most challenged into halfway houses with a much less structured
environment. The mortality over the next decade due to drug abuse, the
people being unable to cope since they hadn't learned the life skills
they needed to cope at that level, and suicide was impressive.
They meant well and did it for the patients own good though.
Bill C
Oh yeah, now they have decided that they need to build a new 600
million dollar in-patient facility to treat a lot of the kind of people
they killed by throwing in off the deep end.
Bill C

Sorry, really got the dollar figure wrong. I know better than to not
verify the most current report before posting:
http://tinyurl.com/h46dq
Quoted:
After pushing for decades to get mentally ill people out of state
institutions, the Department of Mental Health is expected this week to
propose its first new psychiatric hospital in almost 50 years, calling
for one of the costliest building projects in Massachusetts history.

Massachusetts has closed 13 of its 16 state hospitals since 1973 as
mental illness increasingly has been treated on an outpatient basis.
But state officials say the push to deinstitutionalize patients has
overlooked the needs of hundreds who are too sick or too dangerous to
themselves or others to live on their own.
End Quote

They have never apologized to the families, or even admitted they made
a mistake that I've seen, but at least they are finally trying to
correct the original mistake.
Bill C

Actually, the most alarming cause of childhood obesity is
over-consumption of chocolate rabbits on Resurrection Myth
Weekend...............
Discuss among yourselves.

Lou D.

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Actually, the most alarming cause of childhood obesity is
over-consumption of chocolate rabbits on Resurrection Myth
Weekend...............
Discuss among yourselves.

Lou D.

Amen, Brother Lou

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http://www.velonews.com/Admin/ticker/black.php?img=/images/ticker/f_20060422
111024lemond.jpg

Here he is from another angle (wearing his bibs no less):
http://tinyurl.com/43q4y

....too much fish and chips before bedtime.

Eddie who?

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On 23 Apr 2006 06:16:19 -0700, "Lou D'Amelio" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Actually, the most alarming cause of childhood obesity is
over-consumption of chocolate rabbits on Resurrection Myth
Weekend...............
Discuss among yourselves.

Lou D.

Lets not leave out the indefensible - Peeps Chickens.

Calories with out redeeming grace.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

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