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  1. "Bob in CT" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Richard B said:

    "David L. Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Neil:
    I also have a Garmin Vista CX for my bike.
    The specs say it is water resistant for submersion in one meter of
    water for thirty minutes (not 30 meters). It uses Micro SD memory
    expansion cards and is supplied with a either a 32 or 64meg card
    (can't remember which). I put a 1G card in mine and I am able to put
    most on the Southwest on the card using less than 256M.

    I have the Garmin mapping software and the mapping goes down to the
    detail level of the 4X4 dirt roads found in the desert. If you use it
    for navigating to a GPS coordinate in a remote area, using the
    "follow road" selection, these will be marked as unnamed road so the
    navigation will tell you "turn right at unnamed road, turn left at
    unnamed road, etc."

    I usually commute by bike so I use it almost daily to track my
    statistics including total ascent, total descent, average moving
    speed, etc.
    --------
    David:
    As for running the Garmin mapping software under Linux have you
    looked at the Wine project?

    en.wikipedia.orgWine (software)

    I am a Linux newbie but I have seen Wine referenced as a way to
    execute windows based programs on a Linux platform, maybe it will
    work for you. I'm still working out the Linux basics so I don't want
    to fiddle around with this quite yet.

    Richard B.

    Do you know if you can program in a route? For instance, if you have
    a 60 mile ride, could you program in the turns you'll take?

    No you can not directly input a specific route with only the GPS, but
    you can set up a series waypoints and have it take you through the
    sequence; this will limit the choices it can make for the route.

    There is a route preference setting choice of "bicycle", if you select
    this the GPS will try to avoid higher traffic roads. (Unfortunately the
    maps do not include Class 1 bike paths, sigh.)

    You can capture a route and save it, then have the GPS follow that saved
    route.

    With the mapping software, "MapSource City Navigator North America"
    (MSRP $139.27) you should be able to plan a route, save it as a file in
    the PC and then upload that to the GPS.

    You will need the "MapSource City Navigator North America" software as
    the included "Trip and Waypoint Manager" software only includes maps
    with the major traffic arteries. The "MapSource City Navigator North
    America" software is licensed for 2 GPS units and is registered to, and
    checks, the serial numbers of the units when they are connected to the
    PC.

    Routes are saved as a series of GPS coordinates and altitude readings
    and the included "Trip and Waypoint Manager" software lets you download
    this information through the USB portto a Windows PC so you can plot it
    on a map and it can even give you an elevation plot of the route
    you captured. You can also export this captured data to an Excel
    spreadsheet.

    Here is a link to the Garmin Vista CX webpage so you can check out the
    specs and suggested prices:

    http://www.garmin.com/products/etrexVistacx/

    Richard B.

  2. Kristian M Zoerhoff said:
    Bob in CT said:

    Do you know if you can program in a route? For instance, if you have a 60
    mile ride, could you program in the turns you'll take?

    Yes, you can. I do my routes in MapSource, then download them to the eTrex,
    but you can do routes on the device itself as well, with some limitations
    on route complexity (presumably due to the mimited memory and CPU on the
    unit).

    I'm actually planning a 60+ mile ride myself for the unit, to be used early
    this summer.


    Whatever happened to the under $100 Radio Shack GPS that was on sale in
    2001? Was it too simple?
    Maybe I don't have enough places to get lost in so I don't follow the
    trend??
    Bill Baka

  3. Richard B said:

    Neil:
    I also have a Garmin Vista CX for my bike.
    The specs say it is water resistant for submersion in one meter of water
    for thirty minutes (not 30 meters).

    OK, I misremembered. Any depth specs are rather odd, anyway.

    It uses Micro SD memory expansion

    Quoted message said:

    cards and is supplied with a either a 32 or 64meg card (can't remember
    which). I put a 1G card in mine and I am able to put most on the
    Southwest on the card using less than 256M.

    ditto. the literature that comes with it is dated, saying that it will
    support 256 meg. Apparently they never thought that micro sd's would
    support 1g or more. But it has not trouble with it, and mine has 400meg
    of material on it now (most of the East Coast).

    Quoted message said:

    David:
    As for running the Garmin mapping software under Linux have you looked
    at the Wine project?

    en.wikipedia.orgWine (software)

    I am a Linux newbie but I have seen Wine referenced as a way to
    execute windows based programs on a Linux platform, maybe it will work
    for you. I'm still working out the Linux basics so I don't want to
    fiddle around with this quite yet.

    Well, I was a big enthusiast for wine in the early years, even
    contributing to the project. But I could not get the Garmin software to
    run under wine. I will try again, but I have put out a couple of
    queries, with no response. Fortunately I have my wife's old laptop
    available, though I would rather work on my own computer.

    --

    David L. Johnson

    If all economists were laid end to end, they would not reach
    a conclusion. -- George Bernard Shaw

  4. Bob in CT said:

    Do you know if you can program in a route? For instance, if you have a
    60 mile ride, could you program in the turns you'll take?

    --Bob in CT

    Absolutely. I can even do that in linux. Use
    http://www.marengo-ltd.com/map/

    What happens is that the turns become both part of a route as well as
    being "waypoints", and the route from turn to turn is determined by the
    software. But it talks to the computer fine for that. Only when
    downloading the Garmin maps do you need windows.

    You can set it up specifically for bikes, or for cars, or for walking,
    to allow/restrict certain routes (avoiding highways for riding, allowing
    reverse paths up one-way streets for walking). I don't have much
    experience with that yet, but it seems to work very well.

    --

    David L. Johnson

    If all economists were laid end to end, they would not reach
    a conclusion. -- George Bernard Shaw

  5. In article <[email hidden]>,

    David L. Johnson said:
    Richard B said:

    Neil:
    I also have a Garmin Vista CX for my bike.
    The specs say it is water resistant for submersion in one meter of water
    for thirty minutes (not 30 meters).

    OK, I misremembered. Any depth specs are rather odd, anyway.

    It uses Micro SD memory expansion

    Quoted message said:

    cards and is supplied with a either a 32 or 64meg card (can't remember
    which). I put a 1G card in mine and I am able to put most on the
    Southwest on the card using less than 256M.

    ditto. the literature that comes with it is dated, saying that it will
    support 256 meg. Apparently they never thought that micro sd's would
    support 1g or more. But it has not trouble with it, and mine has 400meg
    of material on it now (most of the East Coast).

    Quoted message said:

    David:
    As for running the Garmin mapping software under Linux have you looked
    at the Wine project?

    en.wikipedia.orgWine (software)

    I am a Linux newbie but I have seen Wine referenced as a way to
    execute windows based programs on a Linux platform, maybe it will work
    for you. I'm still working out the Linux basics so I don't want to
    fiddle around with this quite yet.

    Well, I was a big enthusiast for wine in the early years, even
    contributing to the project. But I could not get the Garmin software to
    run under wine. I will try again, but I have put out a couple of
    queries, with no response. Fortunately I have my wife's old laptop
    available, though I would rather work on my own computer.

    OziExplorer ($) works under Wine. Interfaces ok w/ GPS devices.

    -f
    --

  6. On Apr 6, 6:43 pm, "David L. Johnson" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    As for running the Garmin mapping software under Linux have you looked
    at the Wine project?

    I could not get the Garmin software to run under wine.

    Indeed. I've been trying Garmin periodically with Wine.
    Wine keeps getting closer, but still can't run.
    See http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2561
    - Dan

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