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  1. Was out riding home tonight just as it got dark, went to have a looksee at
    the Yarra river levels on my mtb. As I turn onto Burke Rd I hear a 'crack'
    and next thing I know I'm face down on the side of the road. No cars
    around, I drag myself and the mtb off the road onto the grass. From first
    looks it appeared the stem had come loose and sent the front wheel to the
    right as I was out of the seat pushing down on the left.. On closer
    inspection the right arm of the fork had 'popped' out from the top bracket,
    leaving the front wheel swiveling on the left arm.. What theeee!!??
    Scouting around for lost items and limb status, I had a very large headache
    and my vision was a little substandard.

    A big thanks to the guy in the little white car who pulled over and checked
    that I was ok. Counting the costs the fork is a write off, I smashed my
    head hard enough to crack my Limar 909 (grr!) and a few small scars to show
    off. 6km walk home and the mild concussion has mostly gone.

    I am so lucky that the fork broke where it did, and that my helmet took most
    of the blow.. this could have been so much worse. Think I can ask Apollo to
    refund me the cost of a decent helmet? 🙂

    Headache is still lingering..

    </stack story>

    GPL

  2. "GPLama" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Was out riding home tonight just as it got dark, went to have a looksee at
    the Yarra river levels on my mtb. As I turn onto Burke Rd I hear a


    'crack'

    Quoted message said:

    and next thing I know I'm face down on the side of the road. No cars
    around, I drag myself and the mtb off the road onto the grass. From first
    looks it appeared the stem had come loose and sent the front wheel to the
    right as I was out of the seat pushing down on the left.. On closer
    inspection the right arm of the fork had 'popped' out from the top


    bracket,

    Quoted message said:

    leaving the front wheel swiveling on the left arm.. What theeee!!??
    Scouting around for lost items and limb status, I had a very large


    headache

    Quoted message said:

    and my vision was a little substandard.

    A big thanks to the guy in the little white car who pulled over and


    checked

    Quoted message said:

    that I was ok. Counting the costs the fork is a write off, I smashed my
    head hard enough to crack my Limar 909 (grr!) and a few small scars to


    show

    Quoted message said:

    off. 6km walk home and the mild concussion has mostly gone.

    I am so lucky that the fork broke where it did, and that my helmet took


    most

    Quoted message said:

    of the blow.. this could have been so much worse. Think I can ask Apollo


    to

    Quoted message said:

    refund me the cost of a decent helmet? 🙂

    Headache is still lingering..

    </stack story>

    GPL


    Ouchiness! That's not a good thing to have let go at all. Good to hear no
    serious injuries and hope nothing crops up later.

  3. "GPLama" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On closer inspection the right arm of the fork had 'popped' out from the
    top bracket, leaving the front wheel swiveling on the left arm.. What
    theeee!!??

    This happened recently (2-3 months ago?) in Perth to a teenager on a
    Mongoose MTB, allegedly worth $900 or so. He was knocked out, lost a bunch
    of teeth, and sustained bad burns from the bitumen before he was found some
    time later. His brain damage was such that apaprently he now needs a
    teachers aide in school.

    As far as I can see, the idea of pressing fork blades into a crown, no
    brazing or fixing at all, is a very poor solution, and I'm sure there are
    many accidents that result from such crappy engineering.

    As fo what to expect from the manufacturer, I'd suggest you demand that they
    (not the LBS) refund you and so you can buy a better designed/made cycle. If
    they won't play ball, I'd get a lawyer...

    Cheers
    David M

  4. GPLama said:

    On closer inspection the right arm of the fork had 'popped' out from the top bracket,

    What sort of fork was it?

    hippy

  5. hippy said:
    GPLama said:

    On closer inspection the right arm of the fork had 'popped' out from
    the top bracket,

    What sort of fork was it?

    hippy

    Was a Mozo RM-200A.. Not sure if I'll get another fork, or a whole new
    bike... this Apollo 1.4 LSX has had almost everything that moves
    replaced to keep it on the road.. If I 'fork out' for a new fork, I'd
    have to cut it to fit that frame only? If thats the case I have a
    'used' MTB for sale 🙂

    head still thumping...

    GPL

  6. quote='GPLama'hippy said:
    GPLama said:

    On closer inspection the right arm of the fork had 'popped' out from
    the top bracket,

    What sort of fork was it?

    hippy

    Was a Mozo RM-200A.. Not sure if I'll get another fork, or a whole new
    bike... this Apollo 1.4 LSX has had almost everything that moves
    replaced to keep it on the road.. If I 'fork out' for a new fork, I'd
    have to cut it to fit that frame only? If thats the case I have a
    'used' MTB for sale 🙂

    head still thumping...

    GPL[/QUOTE]

    The 'Mozo RM-200A' is a fairly basic fork but it doesn't excuse it breaking in normal use. You (or a previous owner) didn't use it for dirt jumping?
    If you only use the bike for commuting just get a rigid fork. Cheap & light.

  7. Bikesoiler said:

    The 'Mozo RM-200A' is a fairly basic fork but it doesn't excuse it
    breaking in normal use. You (or a previous owner) didn't use it for
    dirt jumping?
    If you only use the bike for commuting just get a rigid fork. Cheap &
    light.

    I've had it since new.. Never used for any real heavy off roading,
    mostly hard pack riding. It's done about 5000-6000kms, and I've kept it
    well serviced. I've sent the pic to Apollo, on the off chance there was
    a recall or something on that model. I'm sure its well out of any
    warranty now.

    Its a toss up to go either a new (lighter) MTB, or a new fork.. I'd want
    a hardtail with a good fork, maybe even real a one this time 🙂

    What model MBTs are the best value/quality for around the 2k mark?
    Being a 'roadie', I've always wanted a faster MTB 🙂

    cheers,
    GPL

  8. GPLama said:

    Was out riding home tonight just as it got dark, went to have a looksee at
    the Yarra river levels on my mtb. As I turn onto Burke Rd I hear a 'crack'
    and next thing I know I'm face down on the side of the road. No cars
    around, I drag myself and the mtb off the road onto the grass. From first
    looks it appeared the stem had come loose and sent the front wheel to the
    right as I was out of the seat pushing down on the left.. On closer
    inspection the right arm of the fork had 'popped' out from the top bracket,
    leaving the front wheel swiveling on the left arm.. What theeee!!??
    Scouting around for lost items and limb status, I had a very large headache
    and my vision was a little substandard.

    A big thanks to the guy in the little white car who pulled over and checked
    that I was ok. Counting the costs the fork is a write off, I smashed my
    head hard enough to crack my Limar 909 (grr!) and a few small scars to show
    off. 6km walk home and the mild concussion has mostly gone.

    I am so lucky that the fork broke where it did, and that my helmet took most
    of the blow.. this could have been so much worse. Think I can ask Apollo to
    refund me the cost of a decent helmet? 🙂

    Headache is still lingering..

    </stack story>

    GPL

    Sounds bad. Hope you recover quickly.
    With all the uncertainty out on the road with potholes n [censored] on the roads, maniac car drivers, torpid pedies and roaming dogs the one thing we tend to have absolute faith in is the bike.

    Cheers
    Hugh

  9. "GPLama" wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    What model MBTs are the best value/quality for around the 2k mark?
    Being a 'roadie', I've always wanted a faster MTB 🙂

    cheers,
    GPL

    2K will get you something quite nice and "ready to race" from all the usual suspects, Giant, Specialized, Kona etc. You could even
    build up a nice SS from On One or Surly.

    Parbs

  10. Parbs said:

    "GPLama" wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    What model MBTs are the best value/quality for around the 2k mark?
    Being a 'roadie', I've always wanted a faster MTB 🙂

    cheers,
    GPL

    2K will get you something quite nice and "ready to race" from all the usual suspects, Giant, Specialized, Kona etc. You could even
    build up a nice SS from On One or Surly.

    Parbs

    or you could buy twenty Huffy's and just throw them out as they wear out.

    DaveB

  11. quote='DaveB'Parbs said:

    "GPLama" wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    What model MBTs are the best value/quality for around the 2k mark?
    Being a 'roadie', I've always wanted a faster MTB 🙂

    cheers,
    GPL

    2K will get you something quite nice and "ready to race" from all the usual suspects, Giant, Specialized, Kona etc. You could even
    build up a nice SS from On One or Surly.

    Parbs

    or you could buy twenty Huffy's and just throw them out as they wear out.

    DaveB[/QUOTE]

    or just buy 20 Huffys and throw them out straightaway 🙂

    SteveA

  12. DaveB said:

    or you could buy twenty Huffy's and just throw them out as they wear
    out.
    DaveB

    I've done that with the Apollo in a way... replaced almost everything on it,
    except the fork. Had a qick look at removing it tonight, and cant seem to
    figure it out yet.. :|

    cheers,
    GPL

  13. On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 at 08:38 GMT, SteveA (aka Bruce)
    was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

    Quoted message said:


    DaveB said:
    Parbs said:

    "GPLama" wrote in message


    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    >What model MBTs are the best value/quality for around the 2k mark?
    >Being a 'roadie', I've always wanted a faster MTB 🙂


    ....

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    2K will get you something quite nice and "ready to race" from all the
    usual suspects, Giant, Specialized, Kona etc. You could even
    build up a nice SS from On One or Surly.


    or you could buy twenty Huffy's and just throw them out as they wear
    out.


    or just buy 20 Huffys and throw them out straightaway 🙂

    Will they give you extra propulsion if you throw them hard out the back?

    --
    TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/
    Quantum Mechanics is a lovely introduction to Hilbert Spaces! --unk

  14. Parbs said:

    2K will get you something quite nice and "ready to race" from all the
    usual suspects, Giant, Specialized, Kona etc. You could even build
    up a nice SS from On One or Surly.

    Parbs

    Ended up copping out and going a Manitou Six Sport fork.. Still an entry
    level fork, but feels 100% compared to what was on there..

    So the entire Apollo LSX 1.4 2002 replacements since new..

    Bottom bracket,
    Rear cones and bearings,
    Disc brake setup front and back - no replacement pads for the stock
    'ProMax',
    Seat
    Crank arms and chain rings
    Chain
    Rear cassette
    Front and rear derailleur
    (rubber and grips, which dont count)..
    Fork

    Now I think its time to respray the frame to remove any advertising for
    Apollo :|

    Remind me never to visit VicMTB again unless I'm hardcore MTB.. I mentioned
    to the guy there that "this store is well out of my league for what I am
    after, blahblah forks for 200-300$?"... then as if in a scene from Rain
    Man.. I hear the word 'K-Mart' a few times... then I was pointed at some
    $550+ babies.. ouch!

    cheers,
    GPL

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