GP surgery cycle parking

On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 04:43:09 -0700 someone who may be Paul George
<[email hidden]> wrote this:-

Quoted message said:

I am afraid thet if I just say 'cycle parking' to them we will end
up with a couple of wheel-benders hidden round the back of the
building.
Does anyone know where to find a picture of what good cycle
parking should look like.
I think covered sheffield stands in clear view at the front of the
building will do the job.

You don't say where you are roughly. It may be that there are some
very good standards drawn up by your council or another public body
you could point to.

Alternatively ISTR that Sustrans do a sheet on the subject which is
reasonable.

Search engines should find these and photographs of what to do and
what to avoid.

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In article <[email hidden]>, Paul
George
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

Just had a letter from my GP saying they are remodelling the surgery.
They make a big fuss over how much more car parking there will be
but no mention of cycle parking.
I am afraid thet if I just say 'cycle parking' to them we will end
up with a couple of wheel-benders hidden round the back of the
building.
Does anyone know where to find a picture of what good cycle
parking should look like.
I think covered sheffield stands in clear view at the front of the
building will do the job.

My GPs posh new purpose-built health centre has a handy drainpipe near
the front door. :-) I've never seen any other cyclists up there.

Paul George said the following on 11/07/2007 12:43:

Quoted message said:

Just had a letter from my GP saying they are remodelling the surgery.
They make a big fuss over how much more car parking there will be
but no mention of cycle parking.

You should, of course, point out the health benefits of cycling and ask
that they provide more cycle parking than car parking.

If people thought that they might not be able to park when they drive to
the surgery with a cold, they might suddenly become healthier :-)

--
Paul Boyd
http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

On 11 Jul, 13:26, David Hansen <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

You don't say where you are roughly.

Bromborough, Wirral

Quoted message said:

Alternatively ISTR that Sustrans do a sheet on the subject which is
reasonable.

Perfect, thanks.

Quoted message said:

Just had a letter from my GP saying they are remodelling the surgery.
They make a big fuss over how much more car parking there will be
but no mention of cycle parking.
I am afraid thet if I just say 'cycle parking' to them we will end
up with a couple of wheel-benders hidden round the back of the
building.
Does anyone know where to find a picture of what good cycle
parking should look like.
I think covered sheffield stands in clear view at the front of the
building will do the job.

Broxap might be a good start
http://www.broxap.com/categories.asp?cID=23

HTH

Tim
--
http://www.timdenning.myby.co.uk/

Paul George said:

Just had a letter from my GP saying they are remodelling the surgery.
They make a big fuss over how much more car parking there will be
but no mention of cycle parking.
I am afraid thet if I just say 'cycle parking' to them we will end
up with a couple of wheel-benders hidden round the back of the
building.

My local practice has a cycle rack.

It's mounted right next to a shed.

The workman didn't know much about
cycles racks.

The slots face towards the shed,
not away :-)

BugBear (who has complained)

"bugbear" <bugbear@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Paul George said:

Just had a letter from my GP saying they are remodelling the surgery.
They make a big fuss over how much more car parking there will be
but no mention of cycle parking.
I am afraid thet if I just say 'cycle parking' to them we will end
up with a couple of wheel-benders hidden round the back of the
building.

My local practice has a cycle rack.

It's mounted right next to a shed.

The workman didn't know much about
cycles racks.

The slots face towards the shed,
not away :-)

BugBear (who has complained)

The GP surgery I occasionally attend had a cycle rack installed. Alas, it's
a cruddy wheelbender one where is you put the back wheel in, you risk
wrecking your rear mech and if you put your front wheel in, you risk your
bike falling over and/or getting a bent wheel. There's loads of space and
there's enough room for a row of Sheffield stands. Alas, no cyclists amongst
the staff though.

David Hansen said:

On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 04:43:09 -0700 someone who may be Paul George
<[email hidden]> wrote this:-

Quoted message said:

I am afraid thet if I just say 'cycle parking' to them we will end
up with a couple of wheel-benders hidden round the back of the
building.
Does anyone know where to find a picture of what good cycle
parking should look like.
I think covered sheffield stands in clear view at the front of the
building will do the job.

You don't say where you are roughly. It may be that there are some
very good standards drawn up by your council or another public body
you could point to.

Alternatively ISTR that Sustrans do a sheet on the subject which is
reasonable.

A quick search gives:
http://www.tfw.org.uk/documents/SustransCycleparkingsheetFF37.pdf

As someone else said mention the health benefits.

Also mention the benefits to the environment, including
not putting nasty pollutants into the atmosphere.

Martin.

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Paul George said:

Just had a letter from my GP saying they are remodelling the
surgery. They make a big fuss over how much more car parking there
will be but no mention of cycle parking.
I am afraid thet if I just say 'cycle parking' to them we will end
up with a couple of wheel-benders hidden round the back of the
building.

My local practice has a cycle rack.

It's mounted right next to a shed.

The workman didn't know much about
cycles racks.

The slots face towards the shed,
not away :-)

BugBear (who has complained)

The GP surgery I occasionally attend had a cycle rack installed.
Alas, it's a cruddy wheelbender one where is you put the back wheel
in, you risk wrecking your rear mech and if you put your front wheel
in, you risk your bike falling over and/or getting a bent wheel.
There's loads of space and there's enough room for a row of Sheffield
stands. Alas, no cyclists amongst the staff though.

Mine has a staff-only car park and no cycle parking either. Unless, that
is, one sneaks into the car park and locks one's bike to an otherwise
entirely useless knee-high railing thing which runs parallel to the wall of
the building :-)

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personality, is that he is a complete [censored].

Paul George said:

Just had a letter from my GP saying they are remodelling the surgery.
They make a big fuss over how much more car parking there will be
but no mention of cycle parking.
I am afraid thet if I just say 'cycle parking' to them we will end
up with a couple of wheel-benders hidden round the back of the
building.
Does anyone know where to find a picture of what good cycle
parking should look like.
I think covered sheffield stands in clear view at the front of the
building will do the job.

I noticed that my GP has a small staff car park at the back (nothing
for patients-they must use the road) but the only thing for cyclists
is a road sign covered by a hedge: not even any drain pipes or lamp
posts.
I think I'll ask next time I go as it's not a busy place and 1 or 2
Sheffield hoops somewhere near the front door would be ideal - more
though if they have staff who cycle. I'd even help dig them in at a
weekend if they wanted!

peter

Response to Paul Boyd:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Just had a letter from my GP saying they are remodelling the surgery.
They make a big fuss over how much more car parking there will be
but no mention of cycle parking.

You should, of course, point out the health benefits of cycling and ask
that they provide more cycle parking than car parking.

But cyclists, being so much healthier, would need so much less parking
at the surgery.

<Cynic>
Or... their living depends on ill health; perhaps they're perfectly
aware of the health benefits of cycling, and are trying to discourage
it. ;-)
</Cynic>

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really,' I told him. 'It's a dancing school run by a man named Frank
Freeman'."

Response to Rob Morley:

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My GPs posh new purpose-built health centre has a handy drainpipe near
the front door. :-) I've never seen any other cyclists up there.

*My* GPs posh new purpose-built surgery has a railing at the front,
intended [I suspect] for the old and/or frail to cling to on the way to
the door. I use the drainpipe round the back.

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As someone else said mention the health benefits.

That's why there are no stands there - we never go to the quacks ;-)

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Paul Boyd usenet.dont.work@plusnet said:

Paul George said the following on 11/07/2007 12:43:

Quoted message said:

Just had a letter from my GP saying they are remodelling the surgery.
They make a big fuss over how much more car parking there will be
but no mention of cycle parking.

You should, of course, point out the health benefits of cycling and ask
that they provide more cycle parking than car parking.

If people thought that they might not be able to park when they drive to
the surgery with a cold, they might suddenly become healthier :-)

--
Paul Boydhttp://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

That's a stupid suggestion. Most of the people who visit a surgery are
elderly or young mothers with children. Very few are capable of
cycling, even if they wanted to.

On 11/07/2007 21:16, Sir Jeremy said,

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That's a stupid suggestion.

Do you not understand smilies?

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Jeremy (') said:

Paul Boyd usenet.dont.work@plusnet said:

If people thought that they might not be able to park when they drive to
the surgery with a cold, they might suddenly become healthier :-)

That's a stupid suggestion. Most of the people who visit a surgery are
elderly or young mothers with children. Very few are capable of
cycling, even if they wanted to.

Young mothers with children can cycle perfectly easy. So can the very
elderly - I've been beaten in races by people in their seventies, and I've
ridden long distances with people in their nineties. Those very elderly
who don't cycle would rapidly get less frail if they did (and tricycles
work well for people whose bones are to brittle to cope with a fall, or
whose balance is too poor to ride a bike). Cycling is healthier for
everyone who can at all (which is well over 99% of the population), and a
GP's surgery which encourages cycling will have patients who visit less
often and live longer.

I always go to my doctors on my bike - it's only nine miles, after all.

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Response to Rob Morley:

Quoted message said:

My GPs posh new purpose-built health centre has a handy drainpipe near
the front door. :-) I've never seen any other cyclists up there.

*My* GPs posh new purpose-built surgery has a railing at the front,
intended [I suspect] for the old and/or frail to cling to on the way to
the door. I use the drainpipe round the back.

My GP's posh new surgery has four sheffield stands just outside the front
entrance. Not under cover, but you can't have everything.

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Mark McNeill said:

But cyclists, being so much healthier, would need so much less parking
at the surgery.

<Cynic>
Or... their living depends on ill health; perhaps they're perfectly
aware of the health benefits of cycling, and are trying to discourage
it. ;-)
</Cynic>

I have to admit that my interactions with medical professionals have
increased manifold since taking up this "healthy outdoor activities"
lark a few years ago.

That said, I concede that this is almost all the Minor Injuries unit at
Barts, a couple of dentists and a physiotherapist: my GP rarely gets
much of a look in.

-dan

Simon Brooke said:

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Jeremy (') said:

On 11 Jul, 13:47, Paul Boyd <usenet.dont.work@plusnet> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

If people thought that they might not be able to park when they drive to
the surgery with a cold, they might suddenly become healthier :-)

Quoted message said:

That's a stupid suggestion. Most of the people who visit a surgery are
elderly or young mothers with children. Very few are capable of
cycling, even if they wanted to.

Young mothers with children can cycle perfectly easy.

I am a mother of 2 young children aged 4yrs and 17months. Yes I
personally can (and do) cycle easily - without the kids. However, I
suspect the comment related to travelling as a 'mother with young
children' which I personally find near impossible on a bike. We do own
a tag-along and bike trailer but I don't fancy using them in
combination although my husband was tempted to have a go at
CenterParcs...! The trailer is too small for both kids and I don't
like bike seats so I can't cycle with both kids unless my 4yr old is
on his own bike. Theres no way I'm taking him on a road aged 4 and
cycling with stabilisers (is this overly risk-averse?) and it isn't
sensible to take the trailer on pavements. Are there options I'm
missing? We do cycle as a family at the weekend but stick to off-road
routes and 30mph roads, the latter as little as possible. I would
therefore only cycle (with the kids) to my GP if there was a traffic-
free route. Of course then I would need access to a bike rack suitable
for parking a bike with a trailer and a tiny bike...

Vicki