Got The Bugger

Mattboy said:

So now I know why I avoid cycle lanes......did my normal 50 miler
earlier this AM, sat at home enjoying the sun.......grandson (15) turns
up and wants me to go for a ride with him, so I agree and off we go.

As he is not very confident riding I took him up a local cyclepath and
bang, poxy car pulled across the lane and bang took me out, up and over
the bonnett!! a few cuts and bruises to me, scrathched saddle and sti
lever to bike....but car needs a new wing...that was my knee! and new
doorskin...that was my bike!

So there you have it another good reason that cycle paths are
dangerous!

Cheers

Matt

I'll second that. My 'cycle path' to work is broken every 150 yards or
so by emerging farm tracks. The liklehood of anything actually using
them is minimal but guess who has right of way? And they have the gall
to call it a cycle path!!

G Brookes said:

I'll second that. My 'cycle path' to work is broken every 150 yards or
so by emerging farm tracks. The liklehood of anything actually using
them is minimal but guess who has right of way? And they have the gall
to call it a cycle path!!

The cycle path I use from town A to town B cuts through a couple of
farms. One day last week I went from A to B along the path, passing a
tractor ploughing a field next to the path. On the return journey from B
back to A, same tractor had finished the first field and crossed over to
the next field on the other side of the path - dragging its plough
straight over the path, churning up the tarmac in the process, leaving
several deep ruts.

I'm a wee bit cross about this, to put it mildly, but I don't really
know who to complain to. Might try the local council office. This path
is quite rough in places but they are gradually improving it, and this
particular section has only recently been tarmacced, probably at great
cost to someone.

d.

On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 11:00:20 +0000 (UTC) someone who may be davek
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Quoted message said:

The cycle path I use from town A to town B cuts through a couple of
farms. One day last week I went from A to B along the path, passing a
tractor ploughing a field next to the path. On the return journey from B
back to A, same tractor had finished the first field and crossed over to
the next field on the other side of the path - dragging its plough
straight over the path, churning up the tarmac in the process, leaving
several deep ruts.

I'm a wee bit cross about this, to put it mildly, but I don't really
know who to complain to. Might try the local council office.

Probably them. If not them they should know who to contact.

Quoted message said:

This path
is quite rough in places but they are gradually improving it, and this
particular section has only recently been tarmacced, probably at great
cost to someone.

At great cost to everyone who pays taxes, which is all of us.

The farmer may well be employed at great cost to all of us as well.

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(') said:

The farmer may well be employed at great cost to all of us as well.

The farmer _is_ employed at great cost to all of us. £26,000 annual
taxpayer subsidy to the average farmer in Scotland, and that was
*before* foot and mouth...

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Simon Brooke said:

The farmer _is_ employed at great cost to all of us. £26,000 annual
taxpayer subsidy to the average farmer in Scotland, and that was
*before* foot and mouth...

Or as the old song[1] had it:

"You never see a farmer on a bike"

1 - no, I don't know /which/ old song...

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Dave Larrington said:

Or as the old song[1] had it:

Quoted message said:

"You never see a farmer on a bike"

Well, it must be true because my sister is a farmer and hasn't ridden a
bike for several decades even though she had the same opbringing as me
bikewise.
And we all know that a single personal observation is enough to prove a
theory :->

Roos

Roos Eisma said:

And we all know that a single personal observation is enough to prove a
theory :->

While also being easier to ignore if they don't fit it: "there are bound
to be exceptions!", or "ah! the exception that proves the rule!". Never
did understand the basis of the latter. I suspect it /may/ just be a
load of bollox (tm)...

Pete.
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Quoted message said:

Roos Eisma wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

And we all know that a single personal observation is enough to prove a
theory :->

Quoted message said:

While also being easier to ignore if they don't fit it: "there are bound
to be exceptions!", or "ah! the exception that proves the rule!". Never
did understand the basis of the latter. I suspect it /may/ just be a
load of bollox (tm)...

You do appreciate that 'proves' in this sense means 'tests', don't you?

That are Ye Olde English...

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Edgware.

Dave Larrington said:

Quoted message said:

"You never see a farmer on a bike"

and Roos Eisma responded:

Quoted message said:

Well, it must be true because my sister is a farmer and hasn't ridden a
bike for several decades even though she had the same opbringing as me
bikewise.
And we all know that a single personal observation is enough to prove a
theory :->

Before moving to Bristol I enjoyed a number of rides with the gymnastics
club to which I belonged, led by a member who knew a very pleasant route
from his farm on the outskirts of Crowborough to a tearoom in Penshurst.

Of course, this observation requires the theory to be somehow refined.
He was a short bloke, so perhaps "you'll never see a farmer over 5'6" on
a bike". Or we could dismiss him as a statistical anomaly.

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On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 14:05:10 GMT someone who may be Simon Brooke
<[email hidden]> wrote this:-

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The farmer may well be employed at great cost to all of us as well.

The farmer _is_ employed at great cost to all of us. £26,000 annual
taxpayer subsidy to the average farmer in Scotland, and that was
*before* foot and mouth...

Averages conceal many things. Grain barons in East Anglia (and no
doubt parts of Scotland like East Lothian) do very well out of the
current regime. Other sorts of farmer don't do very well at all.

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Helen Deborah Vecht <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

You do appreciate that 'proves' in this sense means 'tests', don't you?

Ooh, goody, extra fodder for us pedants :-)

Graeme

David Hansen said:

On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 14:05:10 GMT someone who may be Simon Brooke
<[email hidden]> wrote this:-

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The farmer may well be employed at great cost to all of us as well.

The farmer _is_ employed at great cost to all of us. £26,000 annual
taxpayer subsidy to the average farmer in Scotland, and that was
*before* foot and mouth...

Averages conceal many things. Grain barons in East Anglia (and no
doubt parts of Scotland like East Lothian) do very well out of the
current regime. Other sorts of farmer don't do very well at all.

Ar. Poor things hardly know where the next Range Rover is coming from...
;-)

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Dave Larrington said:

Ar. Poor things hardly know where the next Range Rover is coming from...
;-)

Never mind the next range rover. How are we going to afford houses for
all the children when they go off to university? What if one of them
wants to stay in the area: if we let them have one of the holiday
cottages - the ones that used to be homes for our farm workers before
we replaced the humans with high-tech gear - that's four hundred quid
a week down the drain .... and to cap it all, the full bloody council
tax and TV license ...

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Not me guv

Mattboy said:

So now I know why I avoid cycle lanes......did my normal 50 miler earlier this AM, sat at home enjoying the sun.......grandson (15) turns up and wants me to go for a ride with him, so I agree and off we go.

As he is not very confident riding I took him up a local cyclepath and bang, poxy car pulled across the lane and bang took me out, up and over the bonnett!! a few cuts and bruises to me, scrathched saddle and sti lever to bike....but car needs a new wing...that was my knee! and new doorskin...that was my bike!

So there you have it another good reason that cycle paths are dangerous!

Cheers

Matt

I will second that, theres quite a few of these cycle paths around where I work in London. Wasnt that long ago I was driving down a road called Cable Street in east london and turned right into another road across a cycle path. Was quite close to knocking down a poor sod on his bike, was my fault totally and I should of been concentrating more. Because of this im with you on thinking cycle paths are dangerous, im a good driver i feel but I just wasnt expecting to come across cyclists going across the front of my bonnet. I love cycling, try to get out most nights on my racer and have no quarels with using the road!! I have the opportunity to use cycle lanes but decide not to as they are more hassle than what there worth.

Chris