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  1. You may remember this thread: http://tinyurl.com/2lvw7

    Well I got my new saddle yesterday and it is a newer revision than the
    one that broke. Feels stiffer....granted it is new. There is a lot more
    of a cusioning effect that my old seat, as a matter of fact I sink into
    this seat so much that I had to raise my seat post height a little
    bit.
    Only thing I don't like is that the seat material is different. My
    original seat was made of a leather like material and this new seat is
    made of a thin nylon material. Maybe I'm just not used to it yet and I
    did only ride it in the driveway for a few minutes last night but the
    nylon seems to create more fiction between your legs and the seat than
    the old leather material does. Plus it just looks cheaper, looks like a
    way to save a few pennies. I could be wrong but the new material looks
    like it'd be much easier to rip than the leather material.
    Anyhow, I am going on a rugged 7+ mile ride today after work (if the
    thunderstorms cooperate) so I'll give a more fair and balanced opinion
    tonight after some good trail time in the saddle.

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  2. i'd like to say a toast to you,

    may you and your unicycle have many happy rides together experiencing
    the comfort and style of the KH Velo seat, just let the phrase the Velo
    seat slip off your tounge...🙂

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  3. After a 7.5 mile ride on rooty, rocky trail with a nice little mix of
    north shore and recant any and all negative comments I had about the new
    seat! The new revision of the KH saddle is a huge improvement over my
    old KH seat. 😄
    I can't wait to see what's in store with the model that will be released
    later on this year!

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  4. zod said:

    *After a 7.5 mile ride on rooty, rocky trail with a nice little mix of
    north shore and recant any and all negative comments I had about the
    new seat!*

    Hmm....that didn't make a lot of sense.... 😄
    I think ya'll get what I was saying though......I recant all my negative
    comments.

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  5. Well my United came with a KH saddle so other than the cheapo saddles
    that you get when you first buy a Sun (the uni I'm sure most of us have
    learned on) it's the only saddle I've road. I like the look of those
    Myita saddles. Anyone recomend buying one? Also is there any saddle
    better than a KH?

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  6. Do all the improvements and modifications mean we all have to turn into
    those old people who trade in for a new Lincoln every year?

    I got my KH saddle about six months ago. Do I have a good one or not?
    Seems comfortable enough to me.

    Raphael Lasar
    Matawan, NJ

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  7. Did you get a KH signature seat or one of the off-brand seats? Some of
    the off-brand KH style seats, like the Torker, are using a thinner nylon
    style covering. I haven't seen the newest batch of KH signature seats
    so I don't know what kind of covering they're using now.

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  8. The newest KH seats, like the one I got this week has the nylon cover
    instead of the old thick leather cover. That's my only gripe but I'll
    give it a chance and see how it holds up!

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  9. john_childs said:

    *Did you get a KH signature seat or one of the off-brand seats? Some
    of the off-brand KH style seats*


    I got the one that came with the Yuni freestyle uni with the hookworm
    tire as of late last year. From Unicycle.com.

    By off-brand do you mean knock-offs? Can I get one of those outside of
    Bloomingdales?

    Raphael Lasar
    Matawan, NJ

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  10. JJuggle said:

    *I got the one that came with the Yuni freestyle uni with the hookworm
    tire as of late last year. From Unicycle.com.

    By off-brand do you mean knock-offs? Can I get one of those outside of
    Bloomingdales?

    Raphael Lasar
    Matawan, NJ *

    Off-brand are the ones without the Kris Holm signature. They're the
    Torker's and the Vello, and others. The KH signature seats are going to
    be the best quality ones and have the more expensive fabric options.
    The off-brand ones can choose thinner seat cover material and make other
    choices to lower cost.

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  11. john_childs said:

    *
    The KH signature seats are going to be the best quality ones and have
    the more expensive fabric options. The off-brand ones can choose
    thinner seat cover material and make other choices to lower cost. *


    but what Zod is saying here is that he has a new KH signature seat that
    has a thinner/cheaper fabric anyway...

    (yes it has the KH sinature)

    i know what he is talking about too since ive seen one first hand.its
    like a thin almost spandex type material.not at all like the vinyl on
    the older ones.

    (yes it has the KH sinature)

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  12. JJuggle said:

    *Do all the improvements and modifications mean we all have to turn
    into those old people who trade in for a new Lincoln every year?*


    You only had to replace your old Lincoln when it wore out. The
    difference for us lucky unicycists these days is that the "new" Lincoln
    is improved from the old one! In the past, it would be a new copy of the
    same old seat.

    Miyata was similar to this in the 80s, with many small changes to their
    plastic (nylon?) seats. The original ones had only one bolt on the front
    bumper. Then they went to two. Then they changed the underside to make
    it stiffer. Then they changed the top of the seatpost to go with that.
    Then they added a third bolt on the front bumper. Then they added a
    handle to the front bumper. Everything was an improvement except the
    switch to Chinese manufacture. They're still trying to recover from that
    in my opinion. But they'll get the front handles straightened out. I
    just hope they continue to improve the design in the coming years.

    My new 29er (Yuni) also has a new KH seat. Not sure if it's the
    signature model, but I think it is. It has a grippy nylon-like cover. At
    first I was concerned that it might be too grippy, but two laps around
    the 10 mile course at Laguna Seca say otherwise. I didn't think about
    the seat at all, except the handle. That means the padded part is good!
    The handle could use some thickening at the front. Yes, my hand got
    tired from gripping the thin plastic for that long lap. I think the new
    handles will be on the next generation of seats.

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  13. Another thing I noticed about the new seat is that the whole seat
    overall is not as thick so the seat doesn't sit as tall. That's half the
    reason I had to raise my seat.....at first I thought it was because it
    was more cushiony (is that a word?). I guess when they changed to a more
    effective padding they didn't need as much height to the seat.

    The nylon material just looks cheap compared to the old pleather
    material Jagur.......but if it holds up I actually like the nylon feel
    more.

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  14. zod said:

    *the nylon seems to create more fiction between your legs and the seat
    than the old leather material does. *

    then

    Quoted message said:

    .......but if it holds up I actually like the nylon feel more.

    whatever,i give up😕

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  15. Well, if you re-read my first impressions I did say I had ONLY just put
    the seat on and rode around the driveway real quick. I think I was still
    just used to the old seat. Once I got out and rode it for some miles and
    got used to the slightly different feel I liked it more. The initial
    feel of friction must have simply been me over analyzing.

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  16. john_childs said:

    *Did you get a KH signature seat or one of the off-brand seats? Some
    of the off-brand KH style seats, like the Torker, are using a thinner
    nylon style covering. I haven't seen the newest batch of KH signature
    seats so I don't know what kind of covering they're using now. *

    Yeah mine is a signature.
    Or at least it has his signature on the back.

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  17. I didn't like the leather because it ripped around the seat frame too
    easily. My trials uni has a gash through the leathery stuff on the left
    side that goes from the front seam to the seatpost area, where there's a
    few strands still attached, to the rear seam... It's close to that
    situation on the right. I hope the nylon is better in that regards.
    Also, my first-gen muni seat has bolts that loosen very quickly, and is
    also flexy. The trials seat has proven to pretty durable otherwise,
    though.

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  18. gerblefranklin said:

    *Also, my first-gen muni seat has bolts that loosen very quickly, and
    is also flexy.*

    The first thing I do with a KH seat is go by 4 lock nuts and replace the
    acorn nuts that hold the post to the saddle. Lock nuts won't loosen.
    $0.57 upgrade 😉

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