Got a quick question............

On Wed 10 Aug 2005 12:22:00p, jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

Wayne Boatwright said:

On Wed 10 Aug 2005 10:41:42a, jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

Dean G. wrote:
> I would trust quite a few people here with tilapia recipes. That I
> wouldn't trust the same people with a pack of matches is beyond the
> point.
>
> Dean G.

Well, she trusts me 🙂 She took my advice and made "tilapia
almondine" with a butter/lemon reduction to which she added toasted
almonds. I believe she also ground some of the almonds and added
them to her Panko breading. Served on a bed of wilted spinach with
garlic and grated Peccorino Romano.

Kili's issue with asking for help here in the past is she will list
*specific* ingredients she has on hand. She gets tons of replies
with recipes containing items she does *not* have on hand. Hence her
original request for a site which lets her list specific ingredients
to get ideas.

Jill

The potential problem may still exist if whatever combination of
ingredients one has are simply incompatible to make anything out of.
Rediculous, of course, but what if I only had a flank steak,
confectioner's sugar, and dry macaroni? :-) Sometimes one asks the
impossible.

Grill the flank steak (rare); boil the macaroni. Skip the sugar 😉

Kili doesn't often ask the impossible. But if she says (for example)
she has only fish, lemon, panko, spinach, garlic, NO other veggies...
she'll get responses saying tomatoes, bell peppers, onion... you see
where I'm going with this.

I'm sure she won't mind my saying so since she's said it before herself:
they are on a limited budget and only shop for food once a week when her
husband gets paid. She doesn't have a car so while her husband is at
work and she's trying to come up with dinner, she can't run to the store
to buy whatever even if she has the cash. That, coupled with the fact
her husband doesn't do carbs, makes for quite a challenge. I don't
think he likes things like canned tomatoes, either (I could be wrong
about that) or most frozen veggies. Raw veggies he'll eat the hell out
of but they have a limited shelf-life. Other than that he's basically a
meat & meat kinda guy 😉

Yes, I'm aware of kili's situation, and I have to admit it would pose quite
a challenge for me. I don't understand why people offer suggestions that
include things she doesn't have when she's made the point clear.

Quoted message said:

Me, I can throw something together much easier because I keep canned
tomatoes, tomato sauce, beans (dried and canned), pasta, rice, frozen
veggies, etc.on hand. The pickin's might get slim once in a while (like
I need to go to the store *now* and just don't feel like it!) but I
don't have the same cooking issues to contend with.

I usually have enough in either the pantry or freezer to complete a meal
and, like you, there are things I would cook that kili could probably not
offer her husband. Sometimes push comes to shove, however. David is such
a limited eater that there are times when I cook something, he doesn't want
it. In that case he either goes without or cooks something for himself.
I've told him more than one time that I don't operate a restaurant. :-)

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

On Wed 10 Aug 2005 12:44:27p, Dean G. wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

"but what if I only had a flank steak, confectioner's sugar, and dry
macaroni?"

Then I'd say it is time to go shopping. Otherwise the flank steak could
be stewed and served with macaroni, but without at least an onion it
could be pretty grim.

Yes, that would be grim! :-) Fortunately, that was hypothetical.

Quoted message said:

Speaking of onions, thanks for the Creamed Caramelized Pearl Onions
recipe. It worked very well on Turkey Day.

Glad to hear it, Dean.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

In article <[email hidden]>,
Wayne Boatwright <[email hidden]> wrote:
<snip>

Quoted message said:

The potential problem may still exist if whatever combination of
ingredients one has are simply incompatible to make anything out of.
Rediculous, of course, but what if I only had a flank steak, confectioner's
sugar, and dry macaroni? :-) Sometimes one asks the impossible.

Difficult perhaps but hardly impossible:

Flank Steak Alfredo

1.5 lb flank steak
1 packet beefy onion soup* (see note)
1 cup confectioners sugar
1/4 lb macaroni

Preheat oven to 350 deg.
Sear steak in iron skillet, wrap in foil and bake for 1 to 3 hours.
Meanwhile prepare macaroni according to package directions. Make icing
using the confectioners sugar.

To assemble place macaroni in serving dish, sprinkle dry onion soup mix
on the macaroni, put the steak on top and apply icing.

* Note: this is best with onion soup, but is also pretty good without it.

Regards,
Dave W. (who intends to lay low for a couple of days till this blows
over)

--
Living in the Ozarks
For email, edu will do.

Regardless of what doesn't happen, there's always someone who knew it wouldn't.
R. Henry

On Wed 10 Aug 2005 01:45:44p, Dave W. wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
Wayne Boatwright <[email hidden]> wrote:
<snip>

Quoted message said:

The potential problem may still exist if whatever combination of
ingredients one has are simply incompatible to make anything out of.
Rediculous, of course, but what if I only had a flank steak,
confectioner's sugar, and dry macaroni? :-) Sometimes one asks the
impossible.

Difficult perhaps but hardly impossible:

Flank Steak Alfredo

1.5 lb flank steak
1 packet beefy onion soup* (see note)
1 cup confectioners sugar
1/4 lb macaroni

Preheat oven to 350 deg.
Sear steak in iron skillet, wrap in foil and bake for 1 to 3 hours.
Meanwhile prepare macaroni according to package directions. Make icing
using the confectioners sugar.

To assemble place macaroni in serving dish, sprinkle dry onion soup mix
on the macaroni, put the steak on top and apply icing.

* Note: this is best with onion soup, but is also pretty good without
it.

Regards,
Dave W. (who intends to lay low for a couple of days till this blows
over)

OMG! The icing was the final blow... I think I could actually have coped
with the rest. :-)

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

Dave W. said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
Wayne Boatwright <[email hidden]> wrote:
<snip>

Quoted message said:

The potential problem may still exist if whatever combination of
ingredients one has are simply incompatible to make anything out of.
Rediculous, of course, but what if I only had a flank steak,
confectioner's sugar, and dry macaroni? :-) Sometimes one asks the
impossible.

Difficult perhaps but hardly impossible:

Flank Steak Alfredo

1.5 lb flank steak
1 packet beefy onion soup* (see note)
1 cup confectioners sugar
1/4 lb macaroni

Regards,
Dave W. (who intends to lay low for a couple of days till this blows
over)

But see? There you go again, assuming Wayne (in his hypothetical situation)
*has* a packet beefy onion soup, or any onion soup for that matter.
Precisely the assumption kili wishes to avoid when asking for help! 🙂

Jill

"Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > I usually
have enough in either the pantry or freezer to complete a meal

Quoted message said:

and, like you, there are things I would cook that kili could probably
not
offer her husband. Sometimes push comes to shove, however. David is
such
a limited eater that there are times when I cook something, he doesn't
want
it. In that case he either goes without or cooks something for
himself.
I've told him more than one time that I don't operate a restaurant.
:-)

Hah.. my David wouldn't dare🙂)

On Fri 12 Aug 2005 10:06:03a, Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

"Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > I usually
have enough in either the pantry or freezer to complete a meal

Quoted message said:

and, like you, there are things I would cook that kili could probably
not offer her husband. Sometimes push comes to shove, however. David
is such a limited eater that there are times when I cook something, he
doesn't want it. In that case he either goes without or cooks
something for himself. I've told him more than one time that I don't
operate a restaurant.
:-)

Hah.. my David wouldn't dare🙂)

hehehe!

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

jmcquown said:

Dave W. said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
Wayne Boatwright <[email hidden]> wrote:
<snip>

Quoted message said:

The potential problem may still exist if whatever combination of
ingredients one has are simply incompatible to make anything out

of.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Rediculous, of course, but what if I only had a flank steak,
confectioner's sugar, and dry macaroni? :-) Sometimes one asks

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

impossible.

Difficult perhaps but hardly impossible:

Flank Steak Alfredo

1.5 lb flank steak
1 packet beefy onion soup* (see note)
1 cup confectioners sugar
1/4 lb macaroni

Regards,
Dave W. (who intends to lay low for a couple of days till this blows

Quoted message said:

over)

But see? There you go again, assuming Wayne (in his hypothetical
situation)
*has* a packet beefy onion soup, or any onion soup for that matter.
Precisely the assumption kili wishes to avoid when asking for help! 🙂

Jill

Assuming no kitchen or other cooking facilities one could eat the meat
raw and disregard the sugar and macaroni, if in a fully equipped kitchen
with running water one could saute the steak to desired doneness in its
own fat and pan juices.

Boil and drain the macaroni, use the pan juices to sauce the macaroni
with and if absolutly necessary flavour the pan juices with a pinch of
sugar.
---
JL

kilikini said:

I've been looking for one of those websites that you can select all the
ingredients you have on hand and they prepare a recipe for you based on what
you have.

Does anyone have a good one bookmarked?

I'm desperately in need. I'm helpless on what to do for dinner.

TIA,

kili

Kili and others:

We've just released a new version of the free, online "Leftover Wizard"
at BigOven.com that does exactly what you're asking.

It's available at:

http://www.bigoven.com

To get there, simply choose "Find by Ingredient" from the "Find a
Recipe" menu. (Or if you'd like, you can visit the Leftover Wizard
directly via http://www.bigoven.com/ingredientwizard.aspx)

Once you enter up to 3 ingredients, BigOven will search over 150,000
recipes to show you what you can make with it, with several recipes
including ratings, photos and tips from other users.

Cheers

- Steve
(founder, BigOven.com)

wrote on 23 Aug 2005 in rec.food.cooking

Quoted message said:

NYC does the same thing...So does MC.

--
The eyes are the mirrors....
But the ears...Ah the ears.
The ears keep the hat up.

[sorry if this is a repeat -- got an error message on the post]

Quoted message said:

Once you enter up to 3 ingredients, BigOven will search over 150,000

recipes to show you what you can make with it, with several recipes
including ratings, photos and tips from other users.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

NYC does the same thing...So does MC.

Don't mean to start a long thread on this, but actually, the
experiences between the products mentioned above are quite different.
With BigOven, while it is a desktop recipe organizer, you are directly
querying, live, an online recipe archive with over 150,000 recipes
where people post new recipes, ratings, comments and photos. You are
also simultaneously querying whatever local recipe files you may have
imported to your PC.

With the other two products you mention, while they are each quite
good, you are only doing the latter. You're just querying the static
files you may have imported, not a live online recipe archive.

Don't mean to nit-pick but this is a pretty important distinction
between the products and I thought it worth mentioning.

- Steve
(founder, BigOven)

wrote on 23 Aug 2005 in rec.food.cooking

Quoted message said:

[sorry if this is a repeat -- got an error message on the post]

Quoted message said:

Once you enter up to 3 ingredients, BigOven will search over 150,000

recipes to show you what you can make with it, with several recipes
including ratings, photos and tips from other users.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

NYC does the same thing...So does MC.

Don't mean to start a long thread on this, but actually, the
experiences between the products mentioned above are quite different.
With BigOven, while it is a desktop recipe organizer, you are directly
querying, live, an online recipe archive with over 150,000 recipes
where people post new recipes, ratings, comments and photos. You are
also simultaneously querying whatever local recipe files you may have
imported to your PC.

With the other two products you mention, while they are each quite
good, you are only doing the latter. You're just querying the static
files you may have imported, not a live online recipe archive.

Don't mean to nit-pick but this is a pretty important distinction
between the products and I thought it worth mentioning.

- Steve
(founder, BigOven)

So Big oven is like Recipesource...except you pay for sharing recipes.
Being limited to under 200,000 recipes how do you manage?
--
The eyes are the mirrors....
But the ears...Ah the ears.
The ears keep the hat up.

: We've just released a new version of the free, online "Leftover Wizard"
: at BigOven.com that does exactly what you're asking.

: It's available at:

: http://www.bigoven.com

: To get there, simply choose "Find by Ingredient" from the "Find a
: Recipe" menu. (Or if you'd like, you can visit the Leftover Wizard
: directly via http://www.bigoven.com/ingredientwizard.aspx)

: Once you enter up to 3 ingredients, BigOven will search over 150,000
: recipes to show you what you can make with it, with several recipes
: including ratings, photos and tips from other users.

: Cheers

: - Steve
: (founder, BigOven.com)

Looks like it still needs some work - I entered "ham" and "egg", and the top
recipes it returned were for Key Lime Pie and various Cheesecakes.

Not at all what was expected...

It was finding "ham" in "graHAM cracker crust".

It does a simple string search on the ingredients, by design.

So, in this case, simply enter " ham " (with spaces on either side) to
force it to look solely for the word "ham", not any word containing the
string "ham"... you'll find Cobb Salad ham roll-ups, Betty's Breakfast
casserole, etc.

PS: We'll look at automatically pre-pending a space to the query
searches to ensure it's a little closer to what the user probably
intends. Thanks for pointing this out BTW!

Just an update. This has now been fixed, thanks! Entering "ham" and
"egg" yields 105 recipes with ham and egg in them, starting with "Ham
and Noodle [censored]".